Re: Mil/Mil Vs Moa/Moa
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Clicks</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Seeing how MIL turrets equal 1.8" per click at 500 yards, do you guys think that is adequate for police work?</div></div>
Does it matter? Do police snipers produce 1.8" groups at 500 yards? Are their rifles capable of that? Not likely.
1/4moa or inch clicks along with 1/10 mil clicks are, in my opinion, as fine as you want to go for adjustment. These are already fine adjustments. Personally, for MOA I like 1/2moa clicks better. 1moa is good too. Faster and more practical. I don't care about putting a bullet into something the size of an eyeball at 600 yards, because neither I, nor my rifle can anyway (at least consistently). But I digress.
I understand that the grouping may be larger, and that the 1/8moa adjustment would move that group as a whole up by 1/8moa - but that is a small increment and relative to the size of the group (dispersion), it's not really practical. In practical use, you would be likely to adjust several clicks of 1/8 to get what you need - thus making 1/8 pointless. It's hard to justify 1/8 adjustments since the practicality of it all doesn't warrant such fine tuning of trajectory.
Say it's the 1/10mil you describe. Each click moves up 1.8" - yet say, at 500 yards the rifle groups into 3-4", which is good. If the round fired ends up being on the outer limit of what the rifle groups, it just negated the adjustment. Of course, you could say that if you didn't adjust, it would be even further down (or up). By how much? 1.8". Meaningless on human targets, particularly at that distance given all the other factors.
My understanding is that 1/8 clicks are useful in target shooting and benchrest applications. Where being able to adjust the reticle that finely really does matter because such rifles are making one hole groups, and scoring 10X's on small targets is important.
Here's a video of what I mean by tiny groups and rifles capable of it:
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For closer range shots, 50 - 200 yards for example, 1/4moa and 1/10mil adjustments are plenty fine for adjusting to very precise shots. The notorious hostage headshot. The shoot the gun out of the perp's hand. That sort of thing. No need for 1/8moa to do any of that.
1/8 has some big downsides. It doubles the amount of lines and marks on the turret, making it quite busy and impractical. These turrets also have half the value of adjustment per revolution. Ideally, you want the most possible adjustment per revolution - with the best being all the adjustment you can use within 1 revolution of the turret.
