Rifle Scopes Millet Optics?

[dpinson]

I have heard alot of varied opinions on Millet scopes,i would like to get some opinions from you guys here to see what you think about them.

I have been down a bad road with cheap chinese scopes before and i really dont want to do that again so any info about them would be appreciated.Do they adjust when and where you tell them to and return to zero well e.t.c.?

 

[exhogflyer]

Re: Millet Optics?

Millett is ok..not junk, not great.They are made in China, they are worth about what you pay for them.Decent glass, they do hold a zero.There are better and if you're a fussy person I doubt you will be satisfied.

 

[dpinson]

Re: Millet Optics?

well im looking for something that will hold a good enough zero to shoot some one hole groups and be able to change the elevation back and forth pretty consistently

the last time i put a cheap scope on a rifle that i consistenly stack bullets with, i couldnt hold a group tighter than about 2" at 100yds and then it had an occasional shot even further out than that, put the old scope back on and right back to drilling holes

the company did return my money even though the scope had been mounted but of course they had to throw in the excuse that it had to be something else going on

i saw quite a few people on this board that are using millet and just thought i would check them out

 

[bignada]

Re: Millet Optics?

Now Millett is owned by Bushnell; or did they just buy the part of the Millett operation that makes mounts & rings?

 

[Donut]

Re: Millet Optics?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bignada</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Now Millett is owned by Bushnell; or did they just buy the part of the Millett operation that makes mounts & rings?
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Bushnell owns the whole shebang.

 

[LibertyOptics]

Re: Millet Optics?

I would avoid Millet right now. I've heard and made the argument that the Chinese "can" make a scope you can count on...when you look over their shoulder, hold their hand, beg, plead, negotiate etc etc. But I've seen the QC go to crap too many times lately; I just don't have any real faith in Chinese-made optics for serious use. There are some decent Millet scopes out there but I haven't seen any lately. Bushnell owning them is a minus, not a plus.

So, IMO, the best way not to go down the road of cheap Chinese optics is to avoid it altogether. There are a few exceptions I can live with, like Vortex Strikefire (the best) and Crossfire, but they are backed by a superior company thus worry-free. But they still are what they are.

Scott

 

[exhogflyer]

Re: Millet Optics?

Well, you heard it from someone " in the biz".My feelings exactly though I didn't 'splain it quite as well....

 

[ehall]

Re: Millet Optics?

I will have to disagree with the Bushnell is a minus. I had a millet scope I wasn't happy with. I returned it to the Bushnell repair center under the lifetime warranty. It was replaced with no questions asked. They have done the same with bino's in the past. They are not top end scopes (Millet) but with good customer service that makes them worth the money. Overall I have had outstanding experience with bushnell.

 

[ertlonggun]

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I would avoid Millett. I had two different LRS scopes in the last year,and both were trash. Bushnell bought the company between scope # 1 and # 2 what a mess with CS. they finally made it right and sent me my money. I got a Falcon and have been happy with it.

 

[PeteCamp]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well, you heard it from someone " in the biz". </div></div>

With all due respect to Scott, being "in the biz" should be taken for exactly what it is: one man's opinion. My friend, who sells Mecerdes Benz, always said "stay away from those Mopars, Fords and Chevys if you want to go fast" until I took him to the drag races. Lo and behold, not a Mercedes to be seen, except in the parking lot. Different things for different needs and purposes.

I have 2 Millets, a TRS-1 and a Buckgold 4-16x56mm and they have given me excellent service. Are they like a March? No, but they do what I need and they fit my budget. Bushnell has made a good product for more years than most of the new scope manufacturers put together have existed. They sell more scopes every year than anyone. Their owning Millet will probably benefit Millet. That's my opinion, for what it's worth.

 

[RollingThunder51]

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Millet, China, Glass, Precision, Inspection, Fit, Warranty, etc.

Millet tactical Scopes, their high end scopes, are a well funded, strategic priority, to provide the industry with the highest possible quality at a price that is devastingly competitive. It is, if nothing else, the latest, most important push by Bushnel to provided 99% of what the above average requirement of shooters want at a price near or slightly below $1,000.00.

They are well made, have good glass, hold a zero, have a majority of the major options and gadgets and will not disappoint those that will allow themselves to own optics from China. From 5 yards to 1,000 yards, you have to have a very good reason (and there are some very good reasons) other than performance to pay more for 99% of the folks out there. Add a good warrenty and a firm that is looking to build a reputation and it all spells trouble for anyone hoping that "made in China so its poor quality" will work as a counter argument.

From their site:

The LRS-1 is a 6X 25X power zoom, with a 56mm front objective for the best light gathering. One feature which will be appreciated by the long-range shooter is the positive locking turrets with come-up counter for extended range shooting, with ®˜ MOA clicks for windage and elevation adjustments, and over 140 MOA of adjustment. Few scopes have this extended range of adjustment. For most long-range shooting, there will be no need for special bases when using the LRS-1. Other features of the LRS-1, are fast side-focus for range parallax adjustment, and fully multi-coated lenses for sharp image at extended ranges. Millett's exclusive Mil-DotBar reticle is set at ½ Mil for added accuracy at the longer ranges. As a standard, Mil-Dot measures 36 inches at 1000 yards. The Millett Mil-DotBar reticle in the LRS-1 is 18 inches at 1000 yards - ½ Mil value to allow the shooter easy measurement and accuracy beyond 1000 yards.

Each LRS-1 comes standard with lens shades, flip-open lens covers, along with a detailed operator manual and log book. A waterproof, hard anodized, subdued matte finish, makes for a truly rugged and durable scope. The new Millett LRS-1 is solid and dependable, with features found in no other scope at this price range. It's a smart choice for the shooter needing the best in long-range scopes.

Mine cost me $700.00.

FEATURES INCLUDE:
6x25x
<span style="color: #FF0000">56 mm objective
35 mm tube diameter </span>
Fully multi-coated lenses
<span style="color: #CC0000"><span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold">Supplied with tactical rings</span></span></span>
<span style="color: #FF0000">140 MOA elevation adjustment </span>
Locking windage and elevation target turrets
Large settable windage and elevation knobs
Positive ¼ MOA click adjustments for windage and elevation
Come-up scale on windage and elevation adjustments
Quick side-focus range adjustment
European-style eye focus
Glass etched exclusive Mil-DotBar reticle
Matte black finish one-piece T6 aluminum tube
Lens shade supplied
All Millett scopes are computer tested to assure quality

 

[dmg308]

Re: Millet Optics?

If your LS1 cost you $700 you may have paid a little much.

http://swfa.com/Millett-6-25x56-LRS-1-Tactical-35mm-Riflescope-P40396.aspx

 

[coulthard_west]

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i had a trs-1 for about 10 months and then the turrents started to track wrong. where before when i dialed in 14 3/4 moa to get on target at 600 yards i had to dial in between 19 and 20 moa. either i had a bad scope or thats just the way they are. the glass is pretty good though, for what u pay for

 

[SWFA]

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Made me do a double take too. First I though this guy must be from Millet or copy and pasted the verbiage off their site.

Then I read the part about what a deal he got at $700. and started thinking they must have come out with a new model that I don't know about.

I think the Millet scopes are fair to Midland. You get what you pay for and there is a place in the market for them and they are doing well in that segment. We did get more returns and complaints from Millett owners compared to other brands in the same price range prior to Bushnell acquiring them. Bushnell has much better QC and much more clout with the factories. We've seen major increases in quality and less returns since Bushnell took over.

 

[RollingThunder51]

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Guys, bought the newest illuminated model. With tax and overnite shipping $669.00. I probably did pay too much.

So far, all seems to be worth every penny and sets a new standard for what I can now expect for a scope under a grand, well under a grand.

 

[exhogflyer]

Re: Millet Optics?

And again I'll state you heard it from someone "in the biz".Might be only "opinion" but it's a more qualified and weighted opinion then someone who is only a consumer.

 

[steelcomp]

Re: Millet Optics?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: exhogflyer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And again I'll state you heard it from someone "in the biz".Might be only "opinion" but it's a more qualified and weighted opinion then someone who is only a consumer. </div></div>Well yeah, I mean really, what the heck does the consumer know!

I just bought the newest version of the TRS1 as an entry level LR tactical to learn on. All I can say is for the money, for UNDER $300, with all it's features, there's just no way you can go wrong.
Everything in perspective. Of course, I'm just a dumb consumer...

 

[Benl]

Re: Millet Optics?

I just killed one (DMS-1) with recoil. It's being replaced with a U.S. Optics (if I can find one in stock) or a Nightforce.

 

[Millett]

Re: Millet Optics?

Hello all

I work for Millett Buhsnell, I design products amoung other things.

I have been with Millett for 10 yrs, and in the gun buz most of my life.

Clear up a few points. Bushnell Purchased Millett about a yr ago. Bushnell is a old well established large company, Millett was a small family company that had some intovative products so it was a good match.

Millett and Bushnell strive to produce the best possible products at a great value to the user. Millett scopes give alot of features and quaility at a outstanding price. Look at the TRS or LRS and compare. Millett was first to come out with a 35mm tube and not just to have a big tube but to get 140moa of adjustment in elevation. You can get other 34-35 mm scopes but for several thousands. We supply the rings so the buyer doesn't have to spend almost as much as the scope on rings. The TRS has seen use all over the world, law enforcement find its the right scope of todays LE Sniper. Hunters and shooter like the features of the TRS and of course the price.

Will a Millett scope fail? Yep, as will the expensive ones too. There is a failure possiblity on any device, from an axe to 747, its machincal it can fail. We try our best to keep the failures to the smallest numbers, thats the goal and with computer testing, good QC we have a very low return rate.

Are Millett scopes the best scopes made, no there are better ones for sure. But, for the price, features and life time warranty its a heck of value. And the question is will you need the slight improvements from the price of the Millett to the many thousand dollar model?

Hope I was able to shed some light on Millett.

Good shooting

Steve Langford
Millett Bushnell

 

[Metalhead0483]

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You know, I've used several Millet scopes myself. A couple of them have been decent for the money, but the one I have now is a DMS-1 that I have mounted on my AR. And I have to say it was a huge letdown. The glass was only marginal, and the "clicks" were almost nonexistant. Calling them mushy would be an act of charity.

Just my 2 cents, but I'll pass on Millet from here on.

 

[PeteCamp]

Re: Millet Optics?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just killed one (DMS-1) with recoil. It's being replaced with a U.S. Optics (if I can find one in stock) or a Nightforce. </div></div>

Let me get this straight. You bought a $200 scope (a 1-4x24 basically designed as a short range optic), found it wanting, and now you will replace it with a $1,500 to $2,000 scope? Puzzling.

 

[pacomdiver]

Re: Millet Optics?

i have a buck gold 6-25x56 that was zeroed, the next time i went to the range, it was 4ft high and 2ft left, so something sprung in it. it wasnt dropped and everything is tight. i called millet and they want $25 just to look at it and i have to pay shipping to them, so i think im gonna toss it in the trash and chalk it up to an expensive lesson and wont buy another one again

 

[Halvis]

Re: Millet Optics?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SWFA</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...
I think the Millet scopes are fair to Midland. You get what you pay for and there is a place in the market for them and they are doing well in that segment. We did get more returns and complaints from Millett owners compared to other brands in the same price range prior to Bushnell acquiring them. Bushnell has much better QC and much more clout with the factories. We've seen major increases in quality and less returns since Bushnell took over.
</div></div>

"fair to midland...major increases in quality and less returns since Bushnell took over"

BigRiver seems to have indicated these are decent scopes for the $ also, and if he had lots of customer headaches/returns, he would probably say so as well.

The LRS was certainly an ambitious product, and initially fell short from what I have read. I don't know if they ever worked the bugs and QC problems out as time went by or not. The TRS models seem to be pretty well received, and more often than not, seem to be reliable and get decent accolades from owners.

I thought both were MIJ but read recently they are MIC (made in China), which would account for large variances in quality control. Regardless, I applaud Millet for making products that attempt to have features that only scopes that cost much more have, even if they fall somewhat short in QC and execution.

 

[Millett]

Re: Millet Optics?

Hello,
To the gentleman that stated there is a $25 charge for looking at a scope that is defective.
There is no charge if you have a problem with a Millett scope. only cost is to return it to Bushnell Millett.

TO the clicks on the DMS, to keep the profile low on the turrets we did not add hi tec clicks, its made to show you your adjustments, Note there is moveable dial on turrets to set zero.

Good shooting

Steve

 

[Halvis]

Re: Millet Optics?

Steve, THANK YOU for the correction.

 

[pacomdiver]

Re: Millet Optics?

millett,
i tried to send you a pm but it wouldnt work. when i called millet about 3 weeks ago the guy i talked to said i have to send $25 for them to look at it and ship the scope back to the repair dept. have you ever heard of my problem before? i have a 5 shot group all touching the last trip to the range before it happened. i only used up about 1/2 of my box of ammo and used it that day.i took a shot at the target and my son said it hit the top of the backstop, so i took a second shot and it hit in the same place. i walked down range and there was a fresh hit in the dirt about 4ft up and 2ft left of the target. i tried to adjust it back into the center and ran out of adjustment, so when i got home, i pulled the millet off and put my first scope back on and went back to the range (advantage of living 1 1/2 miles from my range) and sighted it back in with 2 shots, so its not the gun or ammo
Bob

 

[acttacus]

Re: Millet Optics?

Had a couple of Millett Buck Golds in the past. The prices are great, glass is decent, held zero, parallax is accurate, and I was doing one ragged hole at 100yd all day long with it on my Rem 700.

I think for normal hunting / weekend warrior in the range this scope is more than capable. but at longer distances (1000yd +) perhaps a different category of scopes would be more appropriate.

It all depends on what the purpose the rig is going to be used for. Just my 2 cents.

 

[gabstersmoma]

Re: Millet Optics?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RollingThunder51</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Millet, China, Glass, Precision, Inspection, Fit, Warranty, etc.

Millet tactical Scopes, their high end scopes, are a well funded, strategic priority, to provide the industry with the highest possible quality at a price that is devastingly competitive. It is, if nothing else, the latest, most important push by Bushnel to provided 99% of what the above average requirement of shooters want at a price near or slightly below $1,000.00.

They are well made, have good glass, hold a zero, have a majority of the major options and gadgets and will not disappoint those that will allow themselves to own optics from China. From 5 yards to 1,000 yards, you have to have a very good reason (and there are some very good reasons) other than performance to pay more for 99% of the folks out there. Add a good warrenty and a firm that is looking to build a reputation and it all spells trouble for anyone hoping that "made in China so its poor quality" will work as a counter argument.

From their site:

The LRS-1 is a 6X 25X power zoom, with a 56mm front objective for the best light gathering. One feature which will be appreciated by the long-range shooter is the positive locking turrets with come-up counter for extended range shooting, with ®&#152; MOA clicks for windage and elevation adjustments, and over 140 MOA of adjustment. Few scopes have this extended range of adjustment. For most long-range shooting, there will be no need for special bases when using the LRS-1. Other features of the LRS-1, are fast side-focus for range parallax adjustment, and fully multi-coated lenses for sharp image at extended ranges. Millett's exclusive Mil-DotBar reticle is set at ½ Mil for added accuracy at the longer ranges. As a standard, Mil-Dot measures 36 inches at 1000 yards. The Millett Mil-DotBar reticle in the LRS-1 is 18 inches at 1000 yards - ½ Mil value to allow the shooter easy measurement and accuracy beyond 1000 yards.

Each LRS-1 comes standard with lens shades, flip-open lens covers, along with a detailed operator manual and log book. A waterproof, hard anodized, subdued matte finish, makes for a truly rugged and durable scope. The new Millett LRS-1 is solid and dependable, with features found in no other scope at this price range. It's a smart choice for the shooter needing the best in long-range scopes.

Mine cost me $700.00.

FEATURES INCLUDE:
6x25x
<span style="color: #FF0000">56 mm objective
35 mm tube diameter </span>
Fully multi-coated lenses
<span style="color: #CC0000"><span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold">Supplied with tactical rings</span></span></span>
<span style="color: #FF0000">140 MOA elevation adjustment </span>
Locking windage and elevation target turrets
Large settable windage and elevation knobs
Positive ¼ MOA click adjustments for windage and elevation
Come-up scale on windage and elevation adjustments
Quick side-focus range adjustment
European-style eye focus
Glass etched exclusive Mil-DotBar reticle
Matte black finish one-piece T6 aluminum tube
Lens shade supplied
All Millett scopes are computer tested to assure quality


</div></div>

You got butt raped on that deal, bud!

 

[Millett]

Re: Millet Optics?

Paccom, Call Chris Rush at 913 752 3400 and tell him your problem and that you want to send the scope back. there should be no problem. Sounds like something broke in the inter tube. It happens to all scopes sorry you got one of ours.


If there is a problem getting it fixed email me here and I will see what I can do for you.

Good shooting


also to the guy that thinks $669 is too much, all the prices of import glass is going up due to the dollar dropping. Sorry to say we will have to raise prices in the future too. So, now is the best time to buy.


Steve

 

[Airone]

Re: Millet Optics?

I own 5 Millett scopes:
3ea DMS-1's (all mounted on AR-15's)
1ea TRS-1 4-16 1/8"moa click knobs (mounted on .308 bolt gun)
1ea TRS-1 4-16 1/4" moa click knobs (was mounted on AR-10)

I have used them quite a bit and have not had any problems till I got the TRS with 1/4 clicks (which is a new model).

So far I have been very happy with the DMS and the 1/8 moa model TRS.

The NEW 1/4" TRS was mounted on my AR10. The scope was functioning perfect. I had about 100 rounds of .308 on it, I did a tracking test with was perfect, and it was about 2 weeks before a match and then all of the sudden I couldn't hit crap with it. It went blurry and on further inspection I found the front lens fell out.

When I sent the scope in the Bushnell repair department they said 6 weeks and did not really seemed like they even cared to talk to me. Now I understand that things happen, but this attitude of we will get to it when we do both times I called I will look for other options.

I still feel that the DMS-1 is a real good buy. I would buy another one. The TRS is a real nice scope as well. I was ready to buy another 1/4'moa TRS and new Bushnell spotting scope till I got this not give a shit feeling coming from Bushnell.

I ordered a Falcon Viper to try out. I am still wanting the Bushnell Spotting scope but think I will wait to see how this unfolds and get my other scope back before I order it..

Jody Gilmore

 

[1979Wolf]

Re: Millet Optics?

Don't waste your cash on Chinese crap. Get a quality optic that will serve you well.

 

[USMCj]

Re: Millet Optics?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Racialist</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Don't waste your cash on Chinese crap. Get a quality optic that will serve you well.


</div></div>

say, quick question, where do you think that computer you are using now came from? here is a hint, 80% Tiwan, %20 China!

So I guess you should trow that crap away and start looking for a Non chinese computer!


It doesnt matter where something is made, hell look at Bushnell, they are made in china too I bet, and they put out some quality products. No one gets it perfect the first time, Im sure the Millet scopes of today are much better than the first gen scopes they put out.

 

[1979Wolf]

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I guess you like your China scope.

 

[steelcomp]

Re: Millet Optics?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Racialist</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Don't waste your cash on Chinese crap. Get a quality optic that will serve you well.


</div></div> Quality optics cost. Some don't have the budget. Now if you want to fund my next scope purchase...send the check to:

 

[Jakerz]

Re: Millet Optics?

If your willing to try another brand, go with a Super Sniper... they can't be beat for the cash

... They even come with HD glass and mil/mil turrets now!

Jake

 

[canman]

Re: Millet Optics?

I've got a TRS 2 and works fine.I think it is well worth the money.

 

[USMCj]

Re: Millet Optics?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Racialist</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I guess you like your China scope. </div></div>

yup! I sure do love my made in China USO!

 

[BMelton]

Re: Millet Optics?

Racialist,

You're better off just not just weighing in anymore. USO is probably out of you price range and if not then i guess you're just talking out of your ass because SOMETHING, no matter what it is, is always going to be made in the previously mentioned countries. Go do your homework and stop making yourself look like a moron

 

[chazwise]

Re: Millet Optics?

I have a millett buck gold 6- 25 x 56. its been a good scope until today. when i went from 6 power to to 16 every thing was clear but after that every thing starts getting foggy(16-25) don't know what happened it use to be crystal clear all the way through. Going to give millett a call tomorrow and see what the say

 

[Stealff]

Re: Millet Optics?

I've got a LRS-1 that hasn't given me any problems yet, granted the glass isnt nearly as good at longer ranges as say a Leupold or Nightforce.

 

[pacomdiver]

Re: Millet Optics?

millett ,
called Chris yesterday left a voice mail and he called back when i was out in the garage and tried him again but he never called back, will try him again tomorrow

 

[Airone]

Re: Millet Optics?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Airone</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I own 5 Millett scopes:
3ea DMS-1's (all mounted on AR-15's)
1ea TRS-1 4-16 1/8"moa click knobs (mounted on .308 bolt gun)
1ea TRS-1 4-16 1/4" moa click knobs (was mounted on AR-10)

I have used them quite a bit and have not had any problems till I got the TRS with 1/4 clicks (which is a new model).

So far I have been very happy with the DMS and the 1/8 moa model TRS.

The NEW 1/4" TRS was mounted on my AR10. The scope was functioning perfect. I had about 100 rounds of .308 on it, I did a tracking test with was perfect, and it was about 2 weeks before a match and then all of the sudden I couldn't hit crap with it. It went blurry and on further inspection I found the front lens fell out.

When I sent the scope in the Bushnell repair department they said 6 weeks and did not really seemed like they even cared to talk to me. Now I understand that things happen, but this attitude of we will get to it when we do both times I called I will look for other options.

I still feel that the DMS-1 is a real good buy. I would buy another one. The TRS is a real nice scope as well. I was ready to buy another 1/4'moa TRS and new Bushnell spotting scope till I got this not give a shit feeling coming from Bushnell.

I ordered a Falcon Viper to try out. I am still wanting the Bushnell Spotting scope but think I will wait to see how this unfolds and get my other scope back before I order it..

Jody Gilmore</div></div>


Bushnell is replacing my 1/4 moa model TRS with a new and hand inspected scope.

I have not had a minutes trouble with my 1/8 MOA model or with my DMS-1 that I have had for 2 years and shot a lot of matches with.

The advantage of Millett is that I could buy one of the high end scope for one of my guns, or a can put a decent piece of glass on all of my guns. Well worth the money in my opinion.

 

[BMelton]

Re: Millet Optics?

Thanks for all the input guys, Im going to give one a try. 4-16x50mm.

Bryan

 

[flounderv2]

Re: Millet Optics?

I just sent back their new LRS1 with the illuminated reticle of which I had back ordered for months and the release date was pushed numerous times. A few things I can say.
Yes it has 140+ MOA of elevation however, unless you plan on spending another $200 on lower rings, that max elevation you will be able to use is around 94 due to how high the scope sits. After spending that $200 on rings, your back up at a higher priced scope anyway. With that being said, 96MOA is allot for a 308 but the scope sits so damn high it looks like a carry handle on a suit case instead of a scope.

 

[azerious85]

Re: Millet Optics?

im really on the fence about a DMS-1, i read the huge 70+ page review at ar15.com but no talked about reliability of it...anyone care to chime in? im looking at an Aimpoint C3 package, but its twice the price and im strapped at the moment...

 

[hershey]

Re: Millet Optics?

i am curious how many people have had bad warranty experiences w/ the millett's. they defintely look like the cheapest 25x variable i can find that will have repeatable clicks, i am looking to rebarrel a savage f/tr into 6br, so recoil is not a serious issue, but it does seem that warrenty claims are higher than normal.

has anyone compared these to the falcon 25x variables? i love super snipers, but would like to dial up higher than 20x when conditions permit, and find myself wanting to dial my 20x down on those bad days and can't.

 

[Airone]

Re: Millet Optics?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: azerious</div><div class="ubbcode-body">im really on the fence about a DMS-1, i read the huge 70+ page review at ar15.com but no talked about reliability of it...anyone care to chime in? im looking at an Aimpoint C3 package, but its twice the price and im strapped at the moment...</div></div>


I have been running 1 for about 18 months and never had an issue with it. I have 3 total and 4 other friends bought them since shooting with mine. I have not seen any issues with any of them.

 

[Benl]

Re: Millet Optics?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PeteCamp</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just killed one (DMS-1) with recoil. It's being replaced with a U.S. Optics (if I can find one in stock) or a Nightforce. </div></div>

Let me get this straight. You bought a $200 scope (a 1-4x24 basically designed as a short range optic), found it wanting, and now you will replace it with a $1,500 to $2,000 scope? Puzzling. </div></div>

Not really that puzzling.

The DMS-1 gets rave reviews. I bought one, hoping it would live up to the hype... and killed it with recoil pretty easily. Now, I've decided that going cheap (if you consider $250 cheap; this wasn't a Barska, after all) wasn't the answer.

I got my first quality scope a few months ago (a U.S. Optics), and now I'm spoiled.

 

[HotIce]

Re: Millet Optics?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Benl</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PeteCamp</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just killed one (DMS-1) with recoil. It's being replaced with a U.S. Optics (if I can find one in stock) or a Nightforce. </div></div>

Let me get this straight. You bought a $200 scope (a 1-4x24 basically designed as a short range optic), found it wanting, and now you will replace it with a $1,500 to $2,000 scope? Puzzling. </div></div>

Not really that puzzling.

The DMS-1 gets rave reviews. I bought one, hoping it would live up to the hype... and killed it with recoil pretty easily.</div></div>
If that's really the case, I'm sure Millet/Bushnell will take care of it under warranty.

 

[AXEMAN]

Re: Millet Optics?

chiming in again. i got my TRS-1 an was totally happy with it. then i decided to check the elevation against the 90moa claim. i bore sighted it and turned the knob all the way down, then up, counting several times. 66moa. when i called bushnell, after 10 minutes on hold they said just send it back and we will fix or replace it. other than that, the manuals are stil not updated, no one seems to know when the mil/mil version will be out. ill keep you posted