Motivating 'Millennials'

[P-Squared]

I was over at a buddy's house this weekend helping him put up some stone veneer around a fireplace. For full disclosure, he's one of the owners of the company where I serve as it's President.

In conversation he mentions that I should consider going to a seminar to learn how to work with, and motivate millennials. He tells me that one of his friends who is a leader in one of the travel websites recently went to a seminar because her company had a high turnover of younger employees.

My PC response amounted to the millenials needed to go to a seminar to learn how to deal with the responsibilities of a job. He countered that 'our' old ways of managing just didn't work in today's environment and I should consider going to a seminar, however it was my decision.

I pointed out that 'these little snowflakes' have never been held accountable and have been told their entire life they were special. I even asked how we were supposed to take care of our customers if these folks didn't feel like being focused that day. He didn't really have a response to that.

I'm going to add that when I took over the company three years ago, I did away with 'Jobs'. I created 'Roles', and roles had responsibilities, and you owned your role. You owned success, you owned failure, but you owned the role. No role was any more or less important to the company, they were all vital to the success of the company. I point out that my role as President is no more or less important than the 'Parts Runner'. If either one of us doesn't perform, the entire organization is affected. I believe this and I had been very successful in corporate life prior to being at this company.

Here's my question to you band of misfits (I'm one of them too). How do you deal with the younger generation and how do you motivate them to perform for the customer?

I trust that this will be a spirited exchange of ideas.

Thanks for the feedback and may the games begin.

P^2

 

[Maser]

Every generation has had it's fair share of lazy irresponsible fucks. Don't blame this all on millennials. Anyways, the younger generation for me is the generation z. My kids are a part of that generation and they don't really need any help getting them motivated. Granted they're only 6 and 12, but you get the point. Start them out young and giving them simple responsibilities early on in life such as chores and they'll grow up just fine.

 

[P-Squared]

^^^^^ I hear you on starting them off right, but what do you do with the results of the helicopter parent who never taught their kids that they weren't special just for showing up 15 minutes late for work? I have some fantastic younger team members who are committed to learning and their career, but then there are the others who think they are owed 6 figure salaries right out of the chute.

 

[2ndamendfan]

Boy that is a damn good question. Personally I started with my daughter at a very young age.

You are correct that they have never been accountable. But also I believe they have been sheltered from LIFE. Here is what I mean. As early as 7 or 8 I would explain some (more as she got older) purchases I made, in the context of $$$ vs what I made, and how many hours I had to work to be able to buy that. Also explained credit and how we (wife and I) did not use it on a day to day basis.

Fast forward and she is in college, dating a guy 4 or so years older. He is a good guy, and treats my daughter very well. But he seems lost. By his age I had been putting into a retirement account for 5 years. The best I can tell, he has never been taught about live. Some times it is like talking to a 13 year old instead of a 25 year old.

I remember my parents having discussions about money and such. Back then (pushing 50 years) it was thought that children couldn't grasp such complex concepts so you could talk in front of them and they wouldn't understand. Now it is known that children can understand and then internalize it to be their problem. So now parents have all the "adult talk" away from the children.

I can remember when construction was weak 40ish years ago and my parents struggled for a few months while my father found another job. I did everything I could to not cost my family money. Now we don't want to stress the kids out so we keep EVERYTHING from them.

This started before the millennials, they are just the worst. I have friends (one couple)that are late gen x, early gen y and when they got married they no shit said it took 3 days to figure out how to have sex. Neither one had ever had any kind of teaching, nor ever seen any kind of porn including playboy. literally the first time either one of them had seen another person of the opposite sex naked. I think they were 22 when they got married.

 

[Clearlight]

Leading by example is about all I've got . One of my jobs involves installing
audio equipment , I have a couple of guys working part time , all over 40 and
great workers . Issues arise when venues elect to provide me with loaders / assistants
who are usually in their early 20's , at a cheaper rate than my guys .

I try try to lead by example , doing the hardest and shittiest part of the jobs which is
stuff like lifting heavy speakers and crawling thru ceilings running cable . Sad to say
most of the young folks assigned to assist seem to see this as an opportunity to bludge
( slack off ) . About 2 out of ten will get the hint , and step up and ask if they can do
what I'm doing for me .

For work load , I can leave most guys half my age in the dust , I'm 50 but on a bad day
I look 20 years older than that . Embarrassing the snot out of young guys by lifting heavy
gear by myself , pulling myself up into crawl spaces without ladders etc has the desired effect on
about half the muppets that get assigned to me . They can't stand being outclassed by
someone that looks like they should be on a pension . The other 50% I hold no hope for ,
they are just stealing my oxygen ... I also need some techniques to motivate youngsters ,
other than saying ' fuck off , you're a shit cunt I'll do it myself ' .

 

[MtnCreek]

They don't respond well to criticism, especially in front of their peers.

I don't know what kind of work you do, but if there's some type of recurring milestones, attach a bonus to it. Everyone responds to money. I'd make it clear that continually getting base pay with no bonus would eventually result in being shown the door. Keep in mind a year is a long ways off to the younger generation, kind of like you can't praise a dog for a good job 10 min after they did it.

Maybe pick up a dog training book? :-D

 

[Mike Casselton]

They don't respond well to criticism, especially in front of their peers.

I don't know what kind of work you do, but if there's some type of recurring milestones, attach a bonus to it. Everyone responds to money. I'd make it clear that continually getting base pay with no bonus would eventually result in being shown the door. Keep in mind a year is a long ways off to the younger generation, kind of like you can't praise a dog for a good job 10 min after they did it.

Maybe pick up a dog training book? :-D

Dogs are more eager to please. Probably smarter too. ;^]
I would recommend a book on cat herding...

 

[308pirate]

They don't respond well to criticism, especially in front of their peers.

Sure sign of a weak character

 

[Maggot]

I was over at a buddy's house this weekend helping him put up some stone veneer around a fireplace. For full disclosure, he's one of the owners of the company where I serve as it's President.

In conversation he mentions that I should consider going to a seminar to learn how to work with, and motivate millennials. He tells me that one of his friends who is a leader in one of the travel websites recently went to a seminar because her company had a high turnover of younger employees.

My PC response amounted to the millenials needed to go to a seminar to learn how to deal with the responsibilities of a job. He countered that 'our' old ways of managing just didn't work in today's environment and I should consider going to a seminar, however it was my decision.

I pointed out that 'these little snowflakes' have never been held accountable and have been told their entire life they were special. I even asked how we were supposed to take care of our customers if these folks didn't feel like being focused that day. He didn't really have a response to that.

I'm going to add that when I took over the company three years ago, I did away with 'Jobs'. I created 'Roles', and roles had responsibilities, and you owned your role. You owned success, you owned failure, but you owned the role. No role was any more or less important to the company, they were all vital to the success of the company. I point out that my role as President is no more or less important than the 'Parts Runner'. If either one of us doesn't perform, the entire organization is affected. I believe this and I had been very successful in corporate life prior to being at this company.

Here's my question to you band of misfits (I'm one of them too). How do you deal with the younger generation and how do you motivate them to perform for the customer?

I trust that this will be a spirited exchange of ideas.

Thanks for the feedback and may the games begin.

P^2

What part of the US are you in. I do stonemasonry and am aways looking for interesting projects. I dont do much 'commercial' stuff anymore but can turn out one hell of a beautiful job/piece of stone art work. I aint cheap but you wont be disappointed. I specialize in building in hidden compartments into fireplaces and chimineys.

 

[Maggot]

Leading by example is about all I've got . One of my jobs involves installing
audio equipment , I have a couple of guys working part time , all over 40 and
great workers . Issues arise when venues elect to provide me with loaders / assistants
who are usually in their early 20's , at a cheaper rate than my guys .

I try try to lead by example , doing the hardest and shittiest part of the jobs which is
stuff like lifting heavy speakers and crawling thru ceilings running cable . Sad to say
most of the young folks assigned to assist seem to see this as an opportunity to bludge
( slack off ) . About 2 out of ten will get the hint , and step up and ask if they can do
what I'm doing for me .

For work load , I can leave most guys half my age in the dust , I'm 50 but on a bad day
I look 20 years older than that . Embarrassing the snot out of young guys by lifting heavy
gear by myself , pulling myself up into crawl spaces without ladders etc has the desired effect on
about half the muppets that get assigned to me . They can't stand being outclassed by
someone that looks like they should be on a pension . The other 50% I hold no hope for ,
they are just stealing my oxygen ... I also need some techniques to motivate youngsters ,
other than saying ' fuck off , you're a shit cunt I'll do it myself ' .

As I remember youre one of them damn Aussie's or Id be hitting you up for an installers job. Bit too much commute I fear.

 

[Dougie308]

I completey understand your frustration and have experienced it firsthand. My belieft is that the traits you mention are instilled when young. Before you hire them. If their parents did a poor job it's going to be a lot harder to train them. It can be done, but....

 

[lash]

While I agree that many of the current generation entering the workforce have a somewhat different approach to motivation, my experience has always been that any population of workers will follow the general 80/20 rule or Pareto Principle.

"The Pareto principle (also known as the 80/20 rule, the law of the vital few, or the principle of factor sparsity) states that, for many events, roughly 80% of the effects come from 20% of the causes."

As applied to a workforce, you will generally find that 80% of your real work gets done by 20% of your workforce. The others are just there because they have to have a job. Thus, any amount of effort to motivate that low-performing 80% will always be met with lukewarm results.

Now, it is true that some people are low performers at first due to other extenuating circumstances, whether they be personal problems or lack of understanding or simply not familiar with workplace functions. However, those will quickly show promise if identified and straightened out early.

 

[Guest]

Boot Camp. or farm work


Why lower the standard? That helps no one.

 

[supercorndogs]

I think the biggest problem is, all you old fucks think you were way better than you were when you were twenty.

 

[Petrov]

Maybe they arent getting paid enough no give a fuck?

 

[MtnCreek]

Maybe they arent getting paid enough no give a fuck?

That's probably it. Pick out the poor performers and give them a raise. :-D

 

[Guest]

I think the biggest problem is, all you old fucks think you were way better than you were when you were twenty.

No All us old fucks grew up doing hard manual labor. Cows dont milk themself at 5:00 am. And evidently they forgot how to push a silage cart around to feed then self too.

Millennials need some boot to ass for a reality check.

The last thing you would ever hear coming out of my family is:: Daddddddeeeeeeeee My Jaguar is the wrong color.

 

[Rldr-08]

My daughter is only three, yet if you ask her about how she attains money she'll say "I have to work or do something". I have made the simplest of tasks for her to do that I'll pay her for. Just so she understands the concept of working and earning money.

The other day she wanted to go fishing, but wanted some new lures. She said "I only have one dollars, I can't pay for new fish stuff until I work more"

As far as the current generation, we'll I just missed the millennial generation, but I work with a lot of them. Some are hard workers, others are not. However, some of the 40-50 year olds are just as bad.

The big thing I see with current generations that are breaking into the workforce as opposed to the old guard at our company is that the old timers "lived to work" while the newer generation "works to live".

Work doesn't define them like it used to. Oddly enough I'm kinda in the middle age wise so I see both sides of it.


I don't have much patience for motivating lazy people. I'm kinda the "get on board or get the fuck out of my way" type.

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[Veer_G]

Motivating millennials? They're like orchids in a greenhouse. They need constant feedback, short-term goals, and constant trinkets as "attaboys." It's what happened when we were conditioning them to think that everyone is a winner, there are no cuts, and everyone gets to play. Trophies all around, and who gives a fuck about the team.

 

[supercorndogs]

No All us old fucks grew up doing hard manual labor. Cows dont milk themself at 5:00 am. And evidently they forgot how to push a silage cart around to feed then self too.

Millennials need some boot to ass for a reality check.

The last thing you would ever hear coming out of my family is:: Daddddddeeeeeeeee My Jaguar is the wrong color.

Oh shit, cows milk, and feed themselves now? I guess to properly generalize, all parents do buy their millennia children jaguars, and give them no responsibility or raising. And back in the day all children were raised proper with responsibilities, and chores. Makes me wonder how you guys raised such a bunch of shit bags. I guess comparatively though, all the even older fucks thought your generation was a bunch of shit bags too.

 

[Rldr-08]

Oh shit, cows milk, and feed themselves now? I guess to properly generalize, all parents do buy their millennia children jaguars, and give them no responsibility or raising. And back in the day all children were raised proper with responsibilities, and chores. Makes me wonder how you guys raised such a bunch of shit bags. I guess comparatively though, all the even older fucks thought your generation was a bunch of shit bags too.

An old guy here at work was telling me my generation was a lazy group of ppl with no sense of what work is. My reply was "you know why they're like that, cause your generation raised them that way". Lol


Behaviors are learned, parents need to take responsibility to raise their kids with ethics and morals, unfortunately not many do, in turn creating the snowflake generation.


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[oneshot86]

super corn dog hit the jackpot...
makes me wonder how you guys raised a bunch of shit bags, lol, right onnn...
i hire teen aged, high school and just out of high school, young men and women...
the problem is with society and the parents, the parents cant teach their children because they fell into the trap of staying up with the jones...
a mechanic for a father and a nurse for a mother, this mid 30 couple has two or three kids and just bought a 500 k house, lets give it a break, lets say 400k...i am not nosey but i know what a good mech and a nurse makes, and it doesnt equate with a 400 k house...why do they have it??? i watched couple after couple after couple do just this and they couldnt afford the house, the taxes, the stupid money it takes to heat and cool that bitch, the insurance and upkeep... get a new roof for one of those mcmansions when the time comes, or maybe they cant...
anyway, both mom and dad have to work a million hours and cant teach their kids jack shit except how to use a fucking credit card...
kids are able to run wild, get in trouble, or just plain do nothing because we are all at work, whose fault is this???

whose fault is it, its OURS, not theirs...
the kids i employ, if treated with respect they deserve as a human, will do anything you ask...
they suck, you say???
well, you knew they didnt know anything, balls in your court, if you cant get the ball over the net, its you, not the young adult of today...
get off your ass and lead like the mother fucking Sgt's you all brag about being...

i loved being a very young adult, i heard the exact same shit, kids today suck, but you dont, mike, can you come to work for me...
it was job security for me and it really is no different than today...there are good kids and not so good kids, be someone they can look up to and want to be like...
hell i do, i have half the highschool sweering like mofo's
go to the class, there must be something there for you and your employees benefit, there must...

 

[supercorndogs]

An old guy here at work was telling me my generation was a lazy group of ppl with no sense of what work is. My reply was "you know why they're like that, cause your generation raised them that way". Lol


Behaviors are learned, parents need to take responsibility to raise their kids with ethics and morals, unfortunately not many do, in turn creating the snowflake generation.


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I totally disagree that its a generation of shit bags. I was just poking fun at the idea. Lash is right on the money. 80/20 and the of 20 that does most of the work only 5% talk about it, and get rewarded. The ratios have been the same for a long time. Veer I think is also touching on something important. His description of all millennials sounds like a generalization of women. Is it possible there are not enough men raising our boys? Trophies for everyone is not a mans idea, it doesn't follow with a mans psychology. There is a yin and yang to everything, you must keep the balance.

 

[Rthur]

One thing not mentioned, millennials have been a generation that were raised in some part at the day care.
More mothers were working for this group than the previous offerings.
Coupled with the removal of corporal punishment from schools and helicopter parents.
Society has a hand in these outcomes as well.

R

 

[Mike Casselton]

super corn dog hit the jackpot...
makes me wonder how you guys raised a bunch of shit bags, lol, right onnn...
i hire teen aged, high school and just out of high school, young men and women...
the problem is with society and the parents, the parents cant teach their children because they fell into the trap of staying up with the jones...
a mechanic for a father and a nurse for a mother, this mid 30 couple has two or three kids and just bought a 500 k house, lets give it a break, lets say 400k...i am not nosey but i know what a good mech and a nurse makes, and it doesnt equate with a 400 k house...why do they have it??? i watched couple after couple after couple do just this and they couldnt afford the house, the taxes, the stupid money it takes to heat and cool that bitch, the insurance and upkeep... get a new roof for one of those mcmansions when the time comes, or maybe they cant...
anyway, both mom and dad have to work a million hours and cant teach their kids jack shit except how to use a fucking credit card...
kids are able to run wild, get in trouble, or just plain do nothing because we are all at work, whose fault is this???

whose fault is it, its OURS, not theirs...
the kids i employ, if treated with respect they deserve as a human, will do anything you ask...
they suck, you say???
well, you knew they didnt know anything, balls in your court, if you cant get the ball over the net, its you, not the young adult of today...
get off your ass and lead like the mother fucking Sgt's you all brag about being...

i loved being a very young adult, i heard the exact same shit, kids today suck, but you dont, mike, can you come to work for me...
it was job security for me and it really is no different than today...there are good kids and not so good kids, be someone they can look up to and want to be like...
hell i do, i have half the highschool sweering like mofo's
go to the class, there must be something there for you and your employees benefit, there must...

A-FUKKIN-MEN!!!

I never had a problem getting or keeping a job either.
Must have something to do with having Mike as a name... ;^]

That 80/20 rule, I've always said that and never read the reference to it or even knew about it.
It's true as hell though.
Those 5% vocal ones are from both sides unfortunately. They receive unwarranted raises, promotions and kudos while riding the backs off others.

 

[1J04]

I was over at a buddy's house this weekend helping him put up some stone veneer around a fireplace. For full disclosure, he's one of the owners of the company where I serve as it's President.

In conversation he mentions that I should consider going to a seminar to learn how to work with, and motivate millennials. He tells me that one of his friends who is a leader in one of the travel websites recently went to a seminar because her company had a high turnover of younger employees.

My PC response amounted to the millenials needed to go to a seminar to learn how to deal with the responsibilities of a job. He countered that 'our' old ways of managing just didn't work in today's environment and I should consider going to a seminar, however it was my decision.

I pointed out that 'these little snowflakes' have never been held accountable and have been told their entire life they were special. I even asked how we were supposed to take care of our customers if these folks didn't feel like being focused that day. He didn't really have a response to that.

I'm going to add that when I took over the company three years ago, I did away with 'Jobs'. I created 'Roles', and roles had responsibilities, and you owned your role. You owned success, you owned failure, but you owned the role. No role was any more or less important to the company, they were all vital to the success of the company. I point out that my role as President is no more or less important than the 'Parts Runner'. If either one of us doesn't perform, the entire organization is affected. I believe this and I had been very successful in corporate life prior to being at this company.

Here's my question to you band of misfits (I'm one of them too). How do you deal with the younger generation and how do you motivate them to perform for the customer?

I trust that this will be a spirited exchange of ideas.

Thanks for the feedback and may the games begin.

P^2

Motivate? So many options.......... On a serious note, I'll deal with my problem children and you deal with yours. Trust me, you got the short end of the stick on this one. Jimmy don't do the Kumbaya moments to get what he needs. You want a good HR guy? I'll be available in a few years. I couldn't deal with what you have to without hurting some feelings and trying to make up for 20 yrs of non parenting. Goodluck man.


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[Guest]

I am more in line with A1s ROE. My Dad never needed a manual to kick my ass back in line. We did not negotiate. It was his way or my ass. Same with meeeelinnials. Get in line or be unemployed.. It is not our job to breast them through life

 

[Maggot]

Get in line or be unemployed.. It is not our job to breast them through life

Thats how I dealt with it on my crews.

"Heres how it done. Do the work. Dont want t do the work? Jose is waiting, motherfucker, get out of his way."

 

[BoilerUP]

Every generation has thought the succeeding generation were a bunch of lazy shitbirds - this has happened before and will happen again.

I was born in 83, at the tail end of Gen X and the front edge of Gen Y, to parents who would beat me senseless if I didn't work hard. To this day, I have this feeling that I could be in Spokane or Omaha or fucking Hong Kong and be a dick to some stranger and my old man would walk around a corner and commence to whooping my ass.

"Nobody owes you a got-damn thing, and the only thing you can ask for is an opportunity. And if you get an opportunity, don't EVER make them regret it."

My dad told me that as a kid, and to this day it resonates with me - and I plan on instilling it in my two boys.

 

[Maser]

^^^^^ I hear you on starting them off right, but what do you do with the results of the helicopter parent who never taught their kids that they weren't special just for showing up 15 minutes late for work? I have some fantastic younger team members who are committed to learning and their career, but then there are the others who think they are owed 6 figure salaries right out of the chute.

Those types just take longer to get reality knocked into them. The main problem with lazy teens and young adults is people constantly cave into them which DOES NOT help them in the least. Whether it be their parents or rich relatives, etc. Trust me when I say that a spoiled teen won't remain spoiled and entitled once they realize that they have to work for a living and folks around them whether it be their parents or their employer won't cave into their self-entitlement demands. I myself was never one of those spoiled kids, but I know plenty of friends who were and they grew up just fine after reality slapped them like a frozen fish.

 

[Maggot]

Wanna make them piss themselves? Tell them about Mr. Blackman...

--------------------------------- [h=1]American Airlines dedicates Boeing 777 to 91-year-old mechanic for 75 years of service[/h]

JEFFREY COOK, DAVID KERLEY, WHITNEY LLOYD, NATHAN LUNA, ERIN DOOLEY AND CONNOR MCCARTHY,Good Morning America 18 hours ago ​​​​​.

After 75 years with American Airlines, Azreil “Al” Blackman says he isn't thinking about retirement.

"That's not my style," he told ABC News.

Based out of New York City his entire career, the 91-year-old aviation maintenance technician started off making 50 cents an hour as an apprentice in the sheet metal shop, when American was known as American Export Airlines.

Since then, Blackman has worked on some of aviation's most storied aircraft, from the Sikorsky flying boat that kicked off American's trans-Atlantic service, to the original jumbo jet, the Boeing 747.

The former U.S. Navy service member has dedicated his life to American Airlines aircraft.

On Tuesday, his long-time employer returned the favor.

At a ceremony at John F. Kennedy International Airport, a curtain dropped to reveal a Boeing 777 dedicated to his 75 years of service.

The aircraft is capable of holding at least 247 people and flying American Airlines' longest routes. For the remainder of the jet's life at American Airlines, his name and signature will be inscribed to the left of the aircraft's main cabin door.

Guinness World Records also awarded Blackman with the title of "Longest career as an airline mechanic."

At the Tuesday ceremony the New York native climbed into the jet -- before it makes its inaugural trip to London Wednesday sporting its new paint job -- and received a sky-high tour of his hometown.

Blackman took off from JFK at 2:59 p.m. and and flew north up the Hudson River to West Point before turning right and looping around the northern edge of Long Island at an altitude of just under 3,000 for before returning to the airport. The flight lasted about an hour-and-a-half to commemorate a lifetime's worth of service to country's largest airline.

"Slightly hazy," he said of the view from the flight deck. "Very calm, quiet."

Blackman says he has no plans to retire from his work any time soon.

"What's the big deal about retirement, really? What do you do when you retire?" Blackman told ABC News. "You stay home and watch the television, that's not my style."

 

[kabarNC]

I'm gonna go out on a limb here. Responsible and hard working children partially if not fully come from a home that has a loving, stay at home mom, along with a motivated, unselfish, hard working and God fearing father. I'm at work all day, 6 days a week, trying to work 2 jobs to buy diapers and ammo, and my beautiful wife is left with the majority of the decision making and child nurture, until I get home. My oldest son, 5, doesn't get breakfast until he feeds the dogs and cats, every meal he helps with dishes and cleaning up, and my wife or any lady doesn't have to open a door if he's around. I'm so proud of him, but if it weren't for his mom at home teaching him these character traits, he'd be in daycare. I'd rather work more, and have her home, then have her work and give up the home life. I have a farm, so my time is coming with the boys. I can't wait..

 

[DavidK]

super corn dog hit the jackpot...
makes me wonder how you guys raised a bunch of shit bags, lol, right onnn...
i hire teen aged, high school and just out of high school, young men and women...
the problem is with society and the parents, the parents cant teach their children because they fell into the trap of staying up with the jones...
a mechanic for a father and a nurse for a mother, this mid 30 couple has two or three kids and just bought a 500 k house, lets give it a break, lets say 400k...i am not nosey but i know what a good mech and a nurse makes, and it doesnt equate with a 400 k house...why do they have it??? i watched couple after couple after couple do just this and they couldnt afford the house, the taxes, the stupid money it takes to heat and cool that bitch, the insurance and upkeep... get a new roof for one of those mcmansions when the time comes, or maybe they cant...
anyway, both mom and dad have to work a million hours and cant teach their kids jack shit except how to use a fucking credit card...
kids are able to run wild, get in trouble, or just plain do nothing because we are all at work, whose fault is this???

whose fault is it, its OURS, not theirs...
the kids i employ, if treated with respect they deserve as a human, will do anything you ask...
they suck, you say???
well, you knew they didnt know anything, balls in your court, if you cant get the ball over the net, its you, not the young adult of today...
get off your ass and lead like the mother fucking Sgt's you all brag about being...

i loved being a very young adult, i heard the exact same shit, kids today suck, but you dont, mike, can you come to work for me...
it was job security for me and it really is no different than today...there are good kids and not so good kids, be someone they can look up to and want to be like...
hell i do, i have half the highschool sweering like mofo's
go to the class, there must be something there for you and your employees benefit, there must...

Are you familiar with capital letters, commas and periods?

 

[vh20]

Just read the thread, and rather than comment, would rather point out that in post #30, Maser states that, "I myself was never one of those soiled kids," (emphasis added), and in the very next post Maggot asks, "Wanna make them piss themselves?"

 

[Maggot]

^^^Makes me wonder which potty your mind swims in? LOL.

 

[lash]

I saw it too.

 

[vh20]

^^^Makes me wonder which potty your mind swims in? LOL.

It's called "The Bear Pit." As you well know, it was the hot topic last week. (Make that week before last).

 

[Maser]

Just read the thread, and rather than comment, would rather point out that in post #30, Maser states that, "I myself was never one of those soiled kids," (emphasis added), and in the very next post Maggot asks, "Wanna make them piss themselves?"

When the original Plants vs Zombies game came out, the tagline was "Get Ready To Soil Your Plants!"

 

[ArmyJerry]

This snowflake generation has been fighting continuous wars in the shittiest of shitholes for 16 years, they performed well, our generation made them fight with shitty ROE's and get permission from a fkn lawyer back in DC before they could defend themselves. The cry babies on campus have been pussies back to the revolution. I work with many 20 sumtin, engineers, they are good, they are not as smart as they think they are, they learn that after 6 months though so its about right time wise. Just think we are leaving them with a stagnant economy, a bunch of communists in the political parties, a deep state that views them as Chattle, and 200+TRILLION in debt, so nobody older than 35 has any right to complain about these little bastards as a generation, we fucked them royally, they will laugh at us when we are dying under state mandated health care that will pull the plug on our assess to save money on Tylenol 3. Just watch, we fkd the 35 and unders badly they will rightfully fk s back and we deserve every bit they throw at us. Our generation is a fkd up cowardly bunch that allowed itself to be kowtowed by PC spouting little commie fktards in ever segment of our society..

 

[Veer_G]

It's called "The Bear Pit." As you well know, it was the hot topic last week. (Make that week before last).

And in post #32, diapers, FTW!

 

[Veer_G]

Are you familiar with capital letters, commas and periods?

Get in line, David.

 

[P-Squared]

Well I bit the bullet after it came up again in the board meeting on Wednesday. I've signed up for a webinar on how to best understand and motivate millennials. It happens on August 28 and I'll have access to the recording for 6 months. All that and it only cost $195. What a scam. Thanks for all the valuable feedback. One of my non-millennial technicians suggested 6 weeks with a DI would solve most of the problems, AND leave us with technicians that were in tip top physical condition. I can't really see any flaws in his logic except for maybe some laws here or there.

 

[Maggot]

This snowflake generation has been fighting continuous wars in the shittiest of shitholes for 16 years, they performed well, our generation made them fight with shitty ROE's and get permission from a fkn lawyer back in DC before they could defend themselves. The cry babies on campus have been pussies back to the revolution. I work with many 20 sumtin, engineers, they are good, they are not as smart as they think they are, they learn that after 6 months though so its about right time wise. Just think we are leaving them with a stagnant economy, a bunch of communists in the political parties, a deep state that views them as Chattle, and 200+TRILLION in debt, so nobody older than 35 has any right to complain about these little bastards as a generation, we fucked them royally, they will laugh at us when we are dying under state mandated health care that will pull the plug on our assess to save money on Tylenol 3. Just watch, we fkd the 35 and unders badly they will rightfully fk s back and we deserve every bit they throw at us. Our generation is a fkd up cowardly bunch that allowed itself to be kowtowed by PC spouting little commie fktards in ever segment of our society..

Sober up and get back to us in the am.

 

[oneshot86]

I'm gonna go out on a limb here. Responsible and hard working children partially if not fully come from a home that has a loving, stay at home mom, along with a motivated, unselfish, hard working and God fearing father. I'm at work all day, 6 days a week, trying to work 2 jobs to buy diapers and ammo, and my beautiful wife is left with the majority of the decision making and child nurture, until I get home. My oldest son, 5, doesn't get breakfast until he feeds the dogs and cats, every meal he helps with dishes and cleaning up, and my wife or any lady doesn't have to open a door if he's around. I'm so proud of him, but if it weren't for his mom at home teaching him these character traits, he'd be in daycare. I'd rather work more, and have her home, then have her work and give up the home life. I have a farm, so my time is coming with the boys. I can't wait..

good job

 

[ArmyJerry]

I dont really drink.

Sober up and get back to us in the am.

 

[2ndamendfan]

Been a little busy to keep up with this. But i have a few comments.
1: in regards to the post that DavidK made, that seems to be gone. But quoted by Veer_G. I am assuming it is regards to ArmyJerry's post(s). Would it suprise you that with a litle autism it reads just perfect.

2: about the "live to work" vs "work to live". I love to live, don't get me wrong. But "working to live" means you are just looking at today, end of the week max. The problem with that is the future comes pretty damn fast. They are missing out on things that take time to build. The magic of compound interest is one. Delaying long term savings can have a huge effect on end gains. Starting at 30 vs 20 is HUGE. something they will not under stand until it is tto late.

 

[oneshot86]

Well I bit the bullet after it came up again in the board meeting on Wednesday. I've signed up for a webinar on how to best understand and motivate millennials. It happens on August 28 and I'll have access to the recording for 6 months. All that and it only cost $195. What a scam. Thanks for all the valuable feedback. One of my non-millennial technicians suggested 6 weeks with a DI would solve most of the problems, AND leave us with technicians that were in tip top physical condition. I can't really see any flaws in his logic except for maybe some laws here or there.

keep us informed, i'm interested

 

[ArmyJerry]

Get it right fk face, its not autism, its mild retardation from hanging here too long.

Been a little busy to keep up with this. But i have a few comments.
1: in regards to the post that DavidK made, that seems to be gone. But quoted by Veer_G. I am assuming it is regards to ArmyJerry's post(s). Would it suprise you that with a litle autism it reads just perfect.

2: about the "live to work" vs "work to live". I love to live, don't get me wrong. But "working to live" means you are just looking at today, end of the week max. The problem with that is the future comes pretty damn fast. They are missing out on things that take time to build. The magic of compound interest is one. Delaying long term savings can have a huge effect on end gains. Starting at 30 vs 20 is HUGE. something they will not under stand until it is tto late.

 

[P-Squared]

B"The problem with that is the future comes pretty damn fast."

I don't know how many times I've told the entire company during our monthly All-Hands breakfast meeting that one day you are going to wake up and look in the mirror and say "What the heck happened". You're going to be 60 and out of time. It's usually said when I'm trying to get them involved with our 401(k) that I've been able to discretionary match for all of the three years I've been there. It's amazing how many of these 'Millennials' just leave free money sitting on the table. I can't wait for the seminar. I'm imagining September's All-Hands asking how everyone is doing and getting the usual weak response then barking out 'I can't Heeeeeaaar you'. (what the hell, I can dream) I just hope it doesn't end in a 'Full Metal Jacket' scene.

 

[ArmyJerry]

Get it right fk face, its not autism, its mild retardation from hanging here too long.

you are correct about the differences in savings, I started at 25 when I got out, I am very well off on paper with a pension kicker, I can retire next year at 55, but will hang for another 3 years