Re: Mount for TRG-22: Near Alpha, Sphur, Sako 3 ring?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Spuhr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I dont understand some of the discussions here around prices for the mounts. When the rifle costs 3000, the scope 1500-2000 where does it then matters if the Near setup costs 500, ours 400 or some cheaper solution costs 250?
That is nothing compared to the the rest of the gun anyway.
Personally I find the integrated rail solution extremely attractive on a rifle like this, as it never comes loose. It's simply really optimized. Then there can always be a discussion why its not a picatinny, but it iseent.
Next long range gun I will get will certainly have an integrated rail, why more parts when its not needed.
To put a picatinny rail on a TRG is like putting a steering wheel in the backseat, whatfor?
Håkan </div></div>
Spuhr, I agree with you in large part, and BTW, I really like the look of your mounts. I also do not like having a to put a 'rail on a rail', but the reality is there are so few options to fit the Sako integral rail, that it seems like they are forcing you into a corner in choosing a direct mount ring, i.e. the Sako stuff. If I could see options on the Spuhr mount for example, that gave me MINIMUM clearance of the barrel with a 50 MM objective scope, I would be VERY interested in obtaining one--I have not confirmed pricing on your products, but ALL of your pics are of good quality BTW, (perhaps not with an optimal view of what any one individual is looking for at any time) but good quality none-the -less, and I feel your mounts are of good quality. As to folks thoughts on pricing of mounts, I would submit that the general feeling may be this, which is independant of the cost of the rifle...
If you look at high quality mounts for rifles, i.e. typical Picatinny rings that would go onto a rail (integral to the rifle or not!) a benchmark for a very good quality ring could be something like Leupold MK IV rings. A pair of these will run you around $130ish. So when you then look at the option Sako would obviously like you to take for a TRG, the direct '3 ring' Sako mount, it is typically around $350+.....well to me, that's just a quick jump in my simple mind to "Blow Me" Sako! I like the direct rails on the Sako rifles, and would prefer a direct mount option that didn't require a rail--the other option from Sako by the way, is one of their 2 pic rails that mounts to their rail options--DOH!
A reasonable comparable IMO is a good pic ring that would mount direct if the Sako rail was a pic rail....and I actually have some pic rings that I like a LOT, that are under $75/pr.! So this where I think some of the disdain comes from when considering mounts that will work with the Sako integral rail on the TRG--for goodness sake they should just get over it and make it a pic rail!
As an aside, I in fact I have a LOT of Sako 75 & 85 rifles, and have tried every ring that will fit those dovetails, and I DID NOT settle on Optiloks from Sako. Optiloks are good mounts, I have my reasons for not liking them, including cost! I typically run Talley's or Leupold QD's (not Leupy ringmounts) and though I dislike the seperate base arangement, I prefer these rings to the Sako's AND they cost LESS...a good bit less BTW. If I could have it made, I would love an integral ring from Talley, no damn seperate bases, but they aren't considering many of my design requests yet! Some variable option ring heights that would mount direct to a TRG would sell reasonably well I think, but it is CLEAR that many folks put a rail on their TRG and then pick the Pic rings that they like!
