My conundrum regarding my Scar 20s

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Hey, I'm new to the site and new to precision and long range shooting. I've been shooting pistols, ARs, Aks, bullpups, PCCs and shotguns for years but up until recently I've never dove into long range. I've always been interested in it but I just couldn't stomach the price for it. With that said, I had planned to buy a RPR in 6.5 and pickup a scope around $700-$1000 and have about $2k in the whole setup for the most part. That would help me dip my toes in and learn from the ground up without a substantial investment.

My local gun shop received a Scar 20s and it sat for a few months and they offered it to me very cheap since its not the kind of gun they normally sell. I've never really cared about Scars but this thing is sweet so I did my homework on it and bought it. My concern is did I buy too much gun to start out with. I haven't bought a scope for it yet, only played around with a few optics I have on the 100yrd range but I know this gun deserves a sweet scope like a higher end $2k+ model which is just more money to have tied up. One of my friends did let me borrow his NF for a few days and I love it!

I went to a fun and competitive long range shoot this past weekend that was mostly military and had a blast hitting targets out to 700-800 yds with one of their Accuracy Internationals in 260 Rem. I fell in love shooting that bolt gun, it was amazing but I don't think the RPR will be similar feeling. There is a 100yd range about 10min from me but unfortunately I don't have a range near me that is past 100yds unless I drive about 2-3hrs away and there is almost zero local training regarding long range meaning that I can only shoot this gun and really enjoy it maybe a few times a year at most.

I see it like buying your first motorcycle, and maybe I got ahead of myself. I feel like I started off with a liter bike and should have bought a 300, then 600, then maybe a liter bike then so on.

I'm not hurting for money but I don't like having tons of money tied up in 1 gun that I don't get to shoot that often and may be well above what I want to do with it. I have the opportunity to break even on selling the Scar to a local guy this week and I'm unsure if I should do it and pickup an RPR or something similar. I hope this makes sense and its the right place to post this.

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I would keep it but I like nice things lol

You can get F1 4-14 Nightforce SHVs cheap enough. They are good scopes.
If FFP isn't important to you, you can find NXS 3.5-15s for $1000
 
If you like keeping things stock because they don’t need upgrades, things like KAC, your SCAR, Accuracy Internationals, etc, are hard to beat. You buy it, and run it and it will always perform at a high level.

If you like tinkering, and incrementally upgrading things to make it custom to you, the RPR will last you quite some time. But all my RPR owning friends eventually move to a full custom gun at some point it seems.

I just sank a lot of money into a NF 7-35, but the deal was too good to pass up. I don’t get to shoot it often, but every time I do, I know I am not wanting anything better.

Unlike the motorcycle analogy, the gun has the performance, but your lack of skill/appreciation will not get you killed.

I would hunt around for a Vortex 3-18 Gen 2 if you don’t want to tie enormous amounts of money into an optic, but still want near the top-level clarity, function, and features. It just weighs a bit more. Jumping to the NF 4-16 is a $700 jump or so.

Enjoy the nice things, it just spoils you for everything else.
 
I’m not big on tinkering (time is valuable), I just want things to work and I do prefer nice things too! Also I get tired of having to rebuy things and upgrading and etc. Thats one of the reasons I got the Scar. Buy once cry once.

I was looking at maybe the vortex pst gen II ffp 5-25x50 mrad but obviously open to other suggestions.

I really do like the scar and it looks great with my matching FDE 509 tactical. I’ve got until this afternoon to decide. ?
 
I would say if you are considering dumping it then you should dump it and find something that you don’t have thoughts of replacing. If you can get your money back get it and move towards something you enjoy and don’t worry about justifying. you can always find another one to replace it if you have sellers remorse
 
I’m not big on tinkering (time is valuable), I just want things to work and I do prefer nice things too! Also I get tired of having to rebuy things and upgrading and etc. Thats one of the reasons I got the Scar. Buy once cry once.

I was looking at maybe the vortex pst gen II ffp 5-25x50 mrad but obviously open to other suggestions.

I really do like the scar and it looks great with my matching FDE 509 tactical. I’ve got until this afternoon to decide. ?
I have several bolt rifles.
I have been considering building an SPR"ish" rifle in .224, just because the damn things are so much fun to shoot.
Keep in mind, no high quality semi-auto is as accurate as a high quality bolt gun.
When it comes to accuracy, one of my accurized 700's gets the call.

My department issued rifle is a Gen 1 RPR in .308. It is stupid accurate. I am not, by any stretch of imagination, a Ruger fanboy. But they got this thing right, the first time. In addition, upgrading barrels is easy. It is just as accurate as my personal rifles.

It is NOT an AI. But it isn't AI money either.
You can easily put a package together that is competitive and stay below 2000 bucks.
https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsupers...uger-precision-rifle-6.5-creedmoor-with-m-lok

https://cameralandny.com/shop/brand...e048-0136-3247-00163ecd2826?variation=1891359

https://xlrindustries.com/collections/scope-rings/products/scope-rings?variant=26406608773
 
keep the scar and just save up for a bolt gun . It would be hard to be a gun hoarder , if you sold your older guns just to get another new gun . What if you wanted to shoot the scar again in the future you would have to buy it again at a much higher price . If you own it now keep it .
 
I carried one for a while. The learning curve will be a little more challenging with a gas gun but it is an awesome rifle.
I wouldn't sell for several reasons:

It is a nice gun
It is a proven system with a good likelihood of aftermarket barrel options soon
It is not that expensive for what it is
Election coming
It looks really cool

If you do end up selling it I may be interested. Where are you located?
 
Ok, the wording you use in your 1st post makes me think you're not in the US yet I have doubts you can buy one elsewhere. I've never heard of a "liter" bike although I know you're referring to 1,000 CC.

That being said I'm not sure you could buy what I'd recommend for a scope which is an SWFA 3-15x50 which you can get this weekend on sale non-illuminated for $500.

The rest of what you're saying, makes no sense to me. You're saying it's over 2 hours to drive to a range where you can stretch out the SCAR, but you want to get a bolt gun so it will require a drive of over 2 hours to stretch it out?

So you tell me, what is the difference between shooting a bolt at only 100 yards versus a SCAR?
 
My feeling is but what you like. If you want it and can afford it, why not?



Hey, I'm new to the site and new to precision and long range shooting. I've been shooting pistols, ARs, Aks, bullpups, PCCs and shotguns for years but up until recently I've never dove into long range. I've always been interested in it but I just couldn't stomach the price for it. With that said, I had planned to buy a RPR in 6.5 and pickup a scope around $700-$1000 and have about $2k in the whole setup for the most part. That would help me dip my toes in and learn from the ground up without a substantial investment.

My local gun shop received a Scar 20s and it sat for a few months and they offered it to me very cheap since its not the kind of gun they normally sell. I've never really cared about Scars but this thing is sweet so I did my homework on it and bought it. My concern is did I buy too much gun to start out with. I haven't bought a scope for it yet, only played around with a few optics I have on the 100yrd range but I know this gun deserves a sweet scope like a higher end $2k+ model which is just more money to have tied up. One of my friends did let me borrow his NF for a few days and I love it!

I went to a fun and competitive long range shoot this past weekend that was mostly military and had a blast hitting targets out to 700-800 yds with one of their Accuracy Internationals in 260 Rem. I fell in love shooting that bolt gun, it was amazing but I don't think the RPR will be similar feeling. There is a 100yd range about 10min from me but unfortunately I don't have a range near me that is past 100yds unless I drive about 2-3hrs away and there is almost zero local training regarding long range meaning that I can only shoot this gun and really enjoy it maybe a few times a year at most.

I see it like buying your first motorcycle, and maybe I got ahead of myself. I feel like I started off with a liter bike and should have bought a 300, then 600, then maybe a liter bike then so on.

I'm not hurting for money but I don't like having tons of money tied up in 1 gun that I don't get to shoot that often and may be well above what I want to do with it. I have the opportunity to break even on selling the Scar to a local guy this week and I'm unsure if I should do it and pickup an RPR or something similar. I hope this makes sense and its the right place to post this.

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You'll be fine with the SCAR. IMHO , don't sweat it.

FWIW.. here is a great deal on that Vortex Scope..https://www.eurooptic.com/Vortex-Viper-PST-5-25x50-EBR-2D-MRAD-FFP-PST-5257.aspx

The MOA version is $50 bucks more.

S/A firearms in larger calibers require a larger learning curve... but if some ding dong like me can learn it, so can anyone. Lol.

Enjoy your firearm purchase, and keep us up to date on precision reports.

Don't be surprised if you have to try a variety of factory rounds to find one your barrel likes.

My FN CHF CL 20" barreled PSA loves the Horn. AG 155gr.. 10rds / 100yds.
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Keep the 20s.

Buy a Bighorn Origin. $100 upfront and $725 later. PVA sells prefits at $550. KRG Bravo chassis $350. Triggertech Special trigger $185. You’re now a few hundred over the RPR that is less proprietary and easier to change as interest climbs.
 
You did fine. Sure most folks might start out with a more basic platform, but gas guns are fun, and you have one of the best out of the box performers I can think of even for that price.

Have comfort knowing that if you do your part, the gun will do its job.



Plus, if the zombies attack, you'll be ready!
 
Hang on to the 20S. A solid semi-auto is a must for the collection and the SCAR family has been known to nearly double in value during election panics. Save up for the bolt gun, shoot the 20S, and if you're not in love with it come fall of 2020 I'm guessing you will be able to off load it and probably come out on top.
 
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Ok, the wording you use in your 1st post makes me think you're not in the US yet I have doubts you can buy one elsewhere. I've never heard of a "liter" bike although I know you're referring to 1,000 CC.

That being said I'm not sure you could buy what I'd recommend for a scope which is an SWFA 3-15x50 which you can get this weekend on sale non-illuminated for $500.

The rest of what you're saying, makes no sense to me. You're saying it's over 2 hours to drive to a range where you can stretch out the SCAR, but you want to get a bolt gun so it will require a drive of over 2 hours to stretch it out?

So you tell me, what is the difference between shooting a bolt at only 100 yards versus a SCAR?
Doesnt know what a liter bike is but lives in Florida. Rofl
 
Only a fucktard would throw shade on a dude and claim he is not where he is from and turn around and make everyone question if he is just projecting. The term has been in use for 20 years and anyone who has ridden a bike in that time knows what it means. Florida is the sportbike capital of the world and you don't even know shit a basic cager does. Irony.

Furthmore you give shit advice. The scar platform is the last weapon system to put a shitty scope on.

Op spend the money on something that has been tested/proven since the mk17 was adopted. Nightforce , Bushnell ET & the vortex razor are all proven optics that a scar will not destroy. Newer S&B's and the MK8 are also good to go.
 
Only a fucktard

Furthmore you give shit advice.

You frequently like to personally attack people in your posts I see. Like you're some kind of internet tough guy with a lack of impulse control. Very emotional aren't you?

I have no idea what "shade" you're referring to. What do I know? I'm just a "cager" that didn't know he was living in the sportbike capital of the world. I guess all the aftermarket companies located here and lack of rain should've given me a clue. Come to think of it, I do see a lot of shitty, broken Japanese plastic on the side of the road too.

Thanks for informing us all that SWFA is a shit brand.
 
I agree with those who suggest you keep the SCAR, put a good scope on it, and enjoy. A RPR in 6.5CM, or something similar, is an easy acquisition later on. I might suggest doing what I did a couple of decades ago, start a gun fund. I'd poke $100-300 a month into a jar, and let it build and then buy something when the urge struck. Good times, lots of nice guns acquired over the years. And it didn't even hurt too much, I'd often buy once and cry not one little bit.
 
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