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Maggie’s My first bee hive

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Just started my first bee hive. Hopefully they will thrive and I'll have some honey next year. Planning on adding a couple of more hives in the spring. It's been 7 days and still no honey..... WTF!🤣. I need to work on my patience.
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Congratulations on taking the leap with bees. They can be fun and are very good resources once established.

A couple tips learned the hard way.
- keep the hive dry in winter. Condensation inside the hive can drip onto bees and freeze them to death. We learned that the hard way during a couple week stretch of below -10F weather. Unusual cold for our latitude.
- Feed often after the nectar flow stops. First year hives we feed every couple of weeks as it takes a lot of food to build out wax comb, even if you started with a nuc hive. We add honey bee healthy to syrup in spring and fall because bees need some extra protein too.
- Oxcalic Acid is your friend and the enemy of Varroa mites. Treat spring and fall, before and after nectar flow. Many products and application modes to choose from.
- Candy board works well for winter feeding. Helps reduce moisture inside hive and provides calories.
- replacing the queen every couple years is a necessary pain in the neck. Don’t count on the hive naturally creating a replacement queen without swarming.

We stated with bees to pollinate our fruit trees and berry orchard. They do great work. Honey is a bonus.
 
We have had 2 hives before, for about 2 years. We did ok but because I was so busy with other business things, I didn't do it right.
We were approached by a local eagle scout for a project. He wanted to do bees. I have the equipment and he is setting up the business plans. We should be getting nucs in a week or so.
I've rebuilt a small area here, cut down a tree, raised it's elevation and I'm going to put some base down.
I'm on the scouts schedule. They were here tonight, putting foundation in frames and painted a couple of new boxes.
our friend here, Dewey, keeps bees as well and is very successful with it.

Bees are cool
 
Don't harvest excessively and feed sugar water. They need honey to stay healthy.

When left to their own devices they generally do pretty good. Stay vigilant for signs of mites, keep honey in stock to feed them if need be, and enjoy.
 
I’ve been a beekeeper for several years, as of today I’m at 12 hives. I’ve had good years and bad years, this year is starting out pretty well, I’ve taken about 25 gallons of honey this far. I have some splits and swarms so I’m only harvesting from about 8/12.

It looks like you have some sort of flow hive. My advice would be to remember your bees need honey to survive. My experience with flow hive owners is often that their bees starve and usually it’s because they’ve taken it all from the bees. I don’t use Queen excluders and I rarely harvest more than half the frames from a hive. I take some of their extra and make sure they always have plenty. I’ve had good luck managing them like that.

With very few exceptions I do not expect to get honey from a new hive in the first year. Some of that is area specific- less resources in the desert, might be different where you are located. Not sure where you live but if you are in Africanized bee territory be vigilant for them. Treat for varroa mites (I use apivar strips), don’t take all their resources and they should do well for you.
 
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The farm I bought had bee boxes in the garage, left by the previous owner (Amish). One box or two had bees in them, so I called the local bee club, who came & moved them outside to the garden. They were great, had honey, brood, pollen, etc, all through summer, fall, early winter. Looked inside and they were all huddled up, looked like they were shivering. Then late winter temperatures went below zero for more than two weeks. It was brutally cold. After the cold snap I looked inside the bee box & nobody was there. All the honey was gone, no brood, no nothing. Just a hole where mice had chewed to get in, and a mouse nest.

To be fair, I didnt do anything to get the bees, and knew next to nothing about taking care of them. But I still mourn the loss. The bee club guy told me lots of people lost bees this past winter, so it was widespread.

When the trees & clover started flowering, I see bees working the flowers, so bees are still around. Apparently they dont forage very far from the hive, so maybe there is a bee tree somewhere on my property?

I like the idea of having bees & hives, but its a whole nuther education.
 
Have any of you beekeepers here used a warre hive, square or hex? I’ve wanted to do this for a long time but always talk myself out of it. These look interesting and I’ve read it’s easier on the bees in general

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Around here, anyone I know who runs a bee ranch has to order in new queens each year. The idea of overwintering here with our exceptionally long/cold winters just doesn't work.

Maybe someone has found a way, I dunno. But there are truckloads of bees that come into the country, each Spring. And the costs aren't just 'rising', but 'doubling'.... that's saying something.

Pollenaters are definitely needed. Kudo's to those who do!
 
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I used warre hives, the theory of how to use and run warre hives made sense to me, and they worked well but after a couple years I continually lost hives due to weather or mites (I didn’t want to use chems) or whatever. And I rarely if ever took any honey because I wanted the hives to be successful but it still didn’t work. But I was always super busy at work so I couldn’t put much time into them. And I didn’t want to keep buying bees so I quit.

We have a very small orchard and now I use mason bees as my pollinators instead. I really like the mason bees. They are native and are much better/more efficient at pollination and pollinate closer to their nests (so I know my orchard gets covered) and have about zero maintenance so they work good for me….but they don’t produce honey and no honey is a big bummer!
 
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Have any of you beekeepers here used a warre hive, square or hex? I’ve wanted to do this for a long time but always talk myself out of it. These look interesting and I’ve read it’s easier on the bees in general

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I’ve experimented with a couple different hives, but ultimately because of living in the desert, designs that have foundationless frames ended up causing problems with melting. I keep going back to Langstroth hives, mostly because finding equipment is easy. At some point I will try 8 frame Langstroth hives as I hear a lot of success with them and I notice most of my hives do little with 2/10 frames unless it’s a good flow.

I do cut outs frequently and see that bees aren’t particularly fussy if they find somewhere that fits their bill- electrical boxes, tires, wine barrels, floor joists etc.
 
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I used warre hives, the theory of how to use and run warre hives made sense to me, and they worked well but after a couple years I continually lost hives due to weather or mites (I didn’t want to use chems) or whatever. And I rarely if ever took any honey because I wanted the hives to be successful but it still didn’t work. But I was always super busy at work so I couldn’t put much time into them. And I didn’t want to keep buying bees so I quit.

We have a very small orchard and now I use mason bees as my pollinators instead. I really like the mason bees. They are native and are much better/more efficient at pollination and pollinate closer to their nests (so I know my orchard gets covered) and have about zero maintenance so they work good for me….but they don’t produce honey and no honey is a big bummer!
I love mason bees, they’re so cool. We bought a small mason bee house from Costco a while ago and our yard was busy.
I’ve experimented with a couple different hives, but ultimately because of living in the desert, designs that have foundationless frames ended up causing problems with melting. I keep going back to Langstroth hives, mostly because finding equipment is easy. At some point I will try 8 frame Langstroth hives as I hear a lot of success with them and I notice most of my hives do little with 2/10 frames unless it’s a good flow.

I do cut outs frequently and see that bees aren’t particularly fussy if they find somewhere that fits their bill- electrical boxes, tires, wine barrels, floor joists etc.
Good to know. I’m going to assume that the Denver area won’t have the same problems with heat that further south/southwest has
 
I'm in central Virginia so still have time for them to get strong. I installed a five frame nucleus from a local beekeeper. Then added five new wax foundation frames in the brood box. I know they need about 30-40 lbs. of honey to make it through the winter. I also added a new young queen, so hopefully that will help. I'm giving them sugar water and pollen protein paddies to jump start them with plenty of food. Mainly monitoring the honey production so they can make it till spring. Keeping my fingers crossed.....
 
I’m allergic to bee stings so for me it would be like living around hundreds of randomly flying bullets, but I’m happy for you, being a lover of honey I can still appreciate them.
 
Honey seasons coming up! Picture was from last year :) Bees are alot if work but there aren't many things as cool as inspecting a healthy hive on a hot summer day when they are calm and pouring in the honey.
 

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Around here, anyone I know who runs a bee ranch has to order in new queens each year. The idea of overwintering here with our exceptionally long/cold winters just doesn't work.

Maybe someone has found a way, I dunno. But there are truckloads of bees that come into the country, each Spring. And the costs aren't just 'rising', but 'doubling'.... that's saying something.

Pollenaters are definitely needed. Kudo's to those who do!
Honey bees displace native pollinators that can over winter in your area. They are competing for the same resources to survive the winter but one won't. Bees are just like any other livestock. More domestics means less natives.

Here Flys are one of the main pollinators for early fruit production. They start when temperatures are below the point where bees start to fly around.

I can find at least a dozen diffrent kinds of bees in my garden/orchar/flower gardens by this point in late spring.

I don't know if you have ever heard of a wallapini. I probably spelled it wrong. If you get on utube and look up Nebraska man grows citrus you will see them. Made me wonder about geothermal bee houses. Honey is probably cheap and easy enough to ship its not worth the trouble.
 
We keep just around 10 hives active, doing splits and raising new nuc hives as needed. Opinion is around 3is a good minimum for resilience. We dont use flow hives here we gave them a try but too expensive to scale. We use 8 frames as my wife is mostly into the bees and its easier to lug honey supers in 8 for her. She uses a PID controlled acid vaporizer for treatments when needed makes short work of it.

Joining a club and getting a mentor was huge. We only harvest around 50lbs a year as its all we need for ourselves and family so we leave a bunch to the bees and feed in the darths. Last year we had a larger crop and traded some to others looking to stock up. Definitely not something to do for ROI unless the scale is to the more tedious levels.
 
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