My kids are scared......

#51
Lived for years overlooking a grove that had a pack living in it. Enjoyed hearing them nightly and saw them often heading out at night and an occasional straggler returning around sunrise. They had a den on a hillside we could see from our deck and with a good flashlight we could count the eyes to size up the year's litter. There were neighborhoods all around and an elementary school across the street from north end of the grove but never any issues other than an occaional "lost dog" poster for a rat sized canine. They avoid people and any problems are extremely rare. I was't aware of any worries from the surrounding neighborhoods and none of the kids around were worried about them. Never though about shooting them as they posed zero threat (generally won't shoot anything I'm not going to eat though I don't have any stock to protect).
 
#52
Used to live on acreage and several of the neighbors raised sheep & chickens. Technically this was considered a congested area, no shooting, but I'd take out the yotes that showed to much interest with a 22lr.
Neighbors didn't mind as they would lose livestock on a regular basis.
 
#53
My son and I went on the back porch tonight and played a Youtube sound file of a squealing rabbit......no interest in our squealing rabbit but they were out there a little while ago toward the end of Trumps speech.
 
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Coyote hunters say to start with a rabbit in distress call. If that doesn't work, try a rabbit in distress call. If you're still not getting anything, go back to step 1...
 
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Our Brother @MtnCreek is seriously spot on regarding a siren. You can call'm either via mouth call or electronic, but understanding your AO, that's probably just not gonna be a good fit. In your situation I'd locate the Den during the day using a siren, just like domestic dogs, they can't not howl. Yes, you're gonna get the neighborhood doggies fired up too, but I'd be willing to bet you've got a Den very close in the wood lot. Get in there during the day, light off a little siren, under 20 seconds, and you'll have your answer on exactly where they're at. Then choose your method to whack'm. All a mouth or electronic call is going to do is educate them in your environment. Sure, you might get a young stupid one to pop out to see what's going on, and if you don't kill him, you've educated him.

Instead of a Rabbit in distress, which will raise all kinds of hell in your neighborhood because you need to do a few sets of sounding like a Baby crying, you'd be better off locating where their Den is and go at them, or use something softer like a coaxer, little mouse like sounds squeaking.

I've got a bunch of song dogs residing very close to my place and haven't made them my priority 'yet', but it's getting ready to happen. Use to be fanatical hunting Yotes. To the point one Farmer shut me down because he said I was killing too many and he wants some running his fields to combat the field Mice. :rolleyes: Whatever.

I'm gonna do just as I suggested. Light off the siren, locate the Den, set up on Den, pummel every damn one with the shotgun, sans plug. I know going pew pew pew in your neighborhood isn't an option, so again, I'd find the Den and have a 'plan' for eradication in place. ;)
 
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Best way to get them close enough is to take 5 gallon buckets fill with fish meat scraps and dog food freeze in the freezer rock solid and put them where you can get into a blind from downwind. Stake the buckets down so they can move them around some. Once you have a spot rake out the leaves take some food scrapes or stew or chowder and let it go bad. Pour that into the raked out area so they have something to roll around in. The more rancid the better put up a camera that will send a txt to your phone. I have a friend that has a motion light with red tape over the lense so he can shoot(Vermont) them. We are coming on the breeding moon so you can see 15-20 all together this time of year. In Mass you can only use night vision on rimfires for hunting. The 17's seem to kill better headshots and go pick them upbefore the neighbors see. Kil 1 or 2 and your problem is solved.
Crossbow is your best bet I'm on Cape cod this is how it's done down here.
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ubettcha said:
Best way to get them close enough is to take 5 gallon buckets fill with fish meat scraps and dog food freeze in the freezer rock solid and put them where you can get into a blind from downwind. Stake the buckets down so they can move them around some. Once you have a spot rake out the leaves take some food scrapes or stew or chowder and let it go bad. Pour that into the raked out area so they have something to roll around in. The more rancid the better put up a camera that will send a txt to your phone. I have a friend that has a motion light with red tape over the lense so he can shoot(Vermont) them. We are coming on the breeding moon so you can see 15-20 all together this time of year. In Mass you can only use night vision on rimfires for hunting. The 17's seem to kill better headshots and go pick them upbefore the neighbors see. Kil 1 or 2 and your problem is solved.
Crossbow is your best bet I'm on Cape cod this is how it's done down here.
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Now if they would only let you do something about.......the chicken or the egg..........ie the sharks or the seals.

Personally Id leave the sharks alone for the most part.
 
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pmclaine said:
Now if they would only let you do something about.......the chicken or the egg..........ie the sharks or the seals.

Personally Id leave the sharks alone for the most part.
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Base the fish auction in New Bedford handles 4500-25000#s of fish and 42-150k# of scallops a day depending on weather and access. The 120k seals eat 1.2# million pounds of fish every day. We are told that we are overfishing cod and other fish so we must be restricted yet we watch seals eat the fluke out of local waters. Herring and menhaden same thing. The close to shore breeding areas for groundfish are swarmed on by the seals this time of year.
I live on Cape Cod yet I'm only allowed to catch 25#s of codfish to sell a day. It is 32 gallons of fuel in the summer a day and 40+ to run behind Nantucket this time of year.
They need to cull the seals as the seal shit is now effecting the clam and quahog beds with bacteria. When they do I will get to use my 30rd mags.
The sharks have been here long before the seal problem it's just now it's a cottage industry for sightseeing as they are close always. I have a bunch of video of whites. When I could codfish I would see at least 1 a week. Now I lose a few stripers to them a season. I never used a net just grab them by the mouth not anymore.
 
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I don't know if it's been mentioned in here or not, but my in-laws are from Boston and I lived there for a while after getting out of the Army. I noticed that Coyote population was pretty heavy there and I also noticed that they were interestingly large compared to the yotes I had seen growing up in the South East. I did some searching to find out why and I found theories of people assuming these animals were stray dogs and leaving out food for them. Because of this, they weren't having to scavenge as often and it also reduced their fear of humans.

With that said, as far as I remember, you can't legally hunt/trap them around the Boston area. If it were me, I'd get a good pellet gun, a really good one and just headshot every single one that gets close enough.
 
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MtnCreek said:
Get a pair of donkeys for the back yard. Kids love donkeys. Yotes hate/fear donkeys. When neighbors complain, you can explain how having donkeys in your back yard is the "natural" solution to yotes with the side benefit of producing natural compost for the flower beds.
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Best advice in here. Donkeys don't fuck around haha
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MtnCreek said:
Or alpacas. They'll also keep people away from the back yard. Hateful south american woolly camels.
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Interesting you should mention that.

Guy about 1/4 mile away lives on the edge of the biggest patch of conservation land where I expect many of these yotes derive from.

They own a small heard of Alpacas.
 
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pmclaine said:
Interesting you should mention that.

Guy about 1/4 mile away lives on the edge of the biggest patch of conservation land where I expect many of these yotes derive from.

They own a small heard of Alpacas.
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Some folks around here keep them for herd protection. Mostly for goats and sheep. They're mean as hell, but kind of light duty as far as herd protection. They do tend to stick tighter with the herd than donkeys though. Donkeys are usually with beef cattle. They are the real deal bad motherfuckers on yotes. And most aren't pure assholes like alpacas.
 
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MtnCreek said:
Some folks around here keep them for herd protection. Mostly for goats and sheep. They're mean as hell, but kind of light duty as far as herd protection. They do tend to stick tighter with the herd than donkeys though. Donkeys are usually with beef cattle. They are the real deal bad motherfuckers on yotes. And most aren't pure assholes like alpacas.
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I had some other thoughts concerning what was going on with those two guys keeping the animals and all the rainbow motifs around their place. Wasn't sure what was going on but "coyote control" wasn't what I thought they had "Pacas" for.
 
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The last time yotes were out, a guy across the street posited to me and argued that Global warming was the cause. I kind of aggressively informed him the campaign over the last 40 years aimed to destroy the hunting culture in MA has allowed the population to boom. The final "bone" thrown at their population was the ending of "cruel traps" back in the 90s. This eliminated the ability of the older men that used to sell the pelts to do their thing, and the population has recovered. I find it hilarious playing funny would you rather questions with these people.
 
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Since this was dug up.

I have skinned a couple yotes. Stretched, salted and treated to keep the hair from shedding. I had a nice reddish colored one on the wall with a few other mounts and every time it rained that damned thing smelled like a wet dog. It now hangs in the garage with the others.
I tried baking soda and even washed it in Dawn dish detergent. A taxidermist told me that only a commercial cleaner they can get will stop the smell.
Maybe the next one will go to a taxidermist to be treated
 
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DarnYankeeUSMC said:
Since this was dug up.

I have skinned a couple yotes. Stretched, salted and treated to keep the hair from shedding. I had a nice reddish colored one on the wall with a few other mounts and every time it rained that damned thing smelled like a wet dog. It now hangs in the garage with the others.
I tried baking soda and even washed it in Dawn dish detergent. A taxidermist told me that only a commercial cleaner they can get will stop the smell.
Maybe the next one will go to a taxidermist to be treated
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Yep, the smell is unique... Combination of wet dog and soured sweaty socks. Foxes are just as bad but add in a dab of skunk to the mix.

Their blood absolutely reeks of it too.

I think coyotes get a bad rap as livestock killers. They certainly will take lambs and calves if they get the opportunity. But I think they actually eat more stillborns/natural deaths than live animals. But we still kill the hell out of them down here just in case. Lol.

Mike
 
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pmclaine said:
The unusually warm weather in the Northeast (Im not complaining Greta!) has a band of Coyotes active in the backyard.

They have been talking up a storm the last two nights.

Mom is driving my scaredy ass kids to school yesterday/today.

Daughter snapped this pic this morning.....

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Looks like a nice blonde.

Im not a hunter but the desire for shooting challenges really appeals to me on these guys.

The skyline of Boston is visible from my back porch.

I think even by Revolution times these guys had been eradicated in my area.

Im looking forward to the hand wringing to soon start from the people that walk their hand bag dogs in the 14 acres of conservation land behind my house.

I want them to know when it comes time to shooting these guys Im available. Illl even strangle one like they guy from just north of here in NH.

I just want a nice coyote rug for my daughters bedroom.
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Set up some traps dude. There’s money to be made off them there yotes.. tax free!
 

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My kids used to get excited when they heard yotes. That meant a new pack was around and the night gear was coming out.

I killed an all black one a few years ago and decided to skin out and have my neighbor taxidermist mount it. Even after he treated the hide we had to leave it outside for a few months and for at least a year if you got close to it in the shop you could smell the wet clorox dog stink.

My kids are older and all grown up now though....just like this thread
 
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MtnCreek said:
Get a pair of donkeys for the back yard. Kids love donkeys. Yotes hate/fear donkeys. When neighbors complain, you can explain how having donkeys in your back yard is the "natural" solution to yotes with the side benefit of producing natural compost for the flower beds.
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Well, I thought that once. Now I have two donkey's and no sheep. 18+ sheep slaughtered, donkey's fat and happy.
 
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pmclaine said:
Son saw one this spring.

They come and go.
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Just walk out on the balconey, put that double barrel shotgun, and fire 2 blassstss with that double barrel shotgun!



Also
A .22 caliber bullet will lodge in the lung, and we can go in there get it out and maybe save you. A 9mm bullet blows the lung owwt of the body.

Pertinent info for a libville yote problem.
 
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22 CB cap rounds in a bolt action rifle.
I used to do that to the huge norwegian rats that ran along the power lines right behind my house.
In southern california.....about 4 blocks from disneyland.
Never had a problem, shoot 1, it would drop in neighbors back yard, his mean ass german shepard would eat it.
Lather rinse repeat.
Simple solution.
 
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I have one that will visit the back piece of property on rare and very spaced out occasions. I believe his territory is very large and he stays in the swamp behind us mostly. He’s on a short list of either of my two fawns from this year disappear
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hlee said:
It's not so much that coyotes in the NE had been eradicated by the late 1700s, as it is that the range of the coyote was restricted to the Southwest and Plains until agricultural practices (and elimination of other large predators) allowed them to expand their range.
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We didn't have coyotes in the 60's and even up to '72 in the Hill Country west of Austin. I caught one in a trap set for fox in '73 and thought it was a dog. I even called out to it 'Hey pup' with the intent of turning it loose. It turned sideways and I saw it's long Wiley Coyote snout right before it hit the end of the trap chain and broke loose and I said 'A coyote!'

I shot one the next year while deer hunting in the same place and it was like I shot a mountain lion. Even the local warden said he wanted to check and make sure I hadn't shot a Fed. protected Red Wolf.
 
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TexPatriot said:
We didn't have coyotes in the 60's and even up to '72 in the Hill Country west of Austin. I caught one in a trap set for fox in '73 and thought it was a dog. I even called out to it 'Hey pup' with the intent of turning it loose. It turned sideways and I saw it's long Wiley Coyote snout right before it hit the end of the trap chain and broke loose and I said 'A coyote!'

I shot one the next year while deer hunting in the same place and it was like I shot a mountain lion. Even the local warden said he wanted to check and make sure I hadn't shot a Fed. protected Red Wolf.
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Only place I had seen them was Twenty Nine Palms……Go out middle of the night to piss on the side of the Quonset two or three would be running around with MRE wrappers.

Yote showed up in Boston burbs some 5-6 years ago.

Take them over the white sharks.
 
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