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My Tac Ops X-Ray 51 is here!!!

Re: My Tac Ops X-Ray 51 is here!!!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Aries64</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

As VTi said, light affects the way Green-T appears in photos, whether natural light or flash. Because of this it is difficult to accurately capture the actual color of Green-T, but monitor settings aside the first photo in my post is several shades less green than Green-T is in person:
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Let me take this opportunity to voice one of my pet peeves about photography:

Light affects the way everything appears in photos AND in person. You can't take a photo without light/radiation, and you cannot see without it. It is the first rule of photography, and the most abused or neglected. Every light source has a color cast to it - every surface reflects light a certain way.

Most decent digital cameras(not the junk point and shoots or the camera phone images many people punish us with here) compensate fairly well as long as you program in the type of light you are taking the photo in by using the camera's 'White Balance' settings or setting them yourself, or by post processing the image with software such as Photoshop. However, few people do this. Not only will Green T look a bit off, but many photos on the internet by a non-professional or serious amateur photographer do not look halfway decent in composition, color, or lighting. It's not green T's fault at all, or the lighting, but the photographer. Add to this the fact that few people calibrate their monitors for color or gamma, and many images that are actually well-represented will still look off.

http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/white-balance.htm

http://www.photoscientia.co.uk/Gamma.htm

http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/all_tests.php

Having said that, at TO's price points, I do not see any reason to purchase any other tactical-type rifle even if it is several hundred dollars less. Benchrest accuracy in a tactical rifle is the best of both worlds.

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Re: My Tac Ops X-Ray 51 is here!!!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: WYK</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Aries64</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

As VTi said, light affects the way Green-T appears in photos, whether natural light or flash. Because of this it is difficult to accurately capture the actual color of Green-T, but monitor settings aside the first photo in my post is several shades less green than Green-T is in person:
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Let me take this opportunity to voice one of my pet peeves about photography:

Light affects the way everything appears in photos AND in person. You can't take a photo without light/radiation, and you cannot see without it. It is the first rule of photography, and the most abused or neglected. Every light source has a color cast to it - every surface reflects light a certain way.

Most decent digital cameras(not the junk point and shoots or the camera phone images many people punish us with here) compensate fairly well as long as you program in the type of light you are taking the photo in by using the camera's 'White Balance' settings or setting them yourself, or by post processing the image with software such as Photoshop. However, few people do this. Not only will Green T look a bit off, but many photos on the internet by a non-professional or serious amateur photographer do not look halfway decent in composition, color, or lighting. It's not green T's fault at all, or the lighting, but the photographer. Add to this the fact that few people calibrate their monitors for color or gamma, and many images that are actually well-represented will still look off.

http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/white-balance.htm

http://www.photoscientia.co.uk/Gamma.htm

http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/all_tests.php

Having said that, at TO's price points, I do not see any reason to purchase any other tactical-type rifle even if it is several hundred dollars less. Benchrest accuracy in a tactical rifle is the best of both worlds.

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Why is light a pet peeve of yours? What first rule of photography are you talking about? Where did you invent this? Light has no color cast to it, it is what it is. The very nature of photography is the interpretation and manipulation of light. The nature of light is dynamic, light is so easily influenced by so many things it strikes and passes through that you can never have complete control of what you capture. Mastery of photography and light can easily take years of work and is fleeting even so. Are you a photographer of a "technician?"

Most of the problems with color reproduction on computer monitors today has to with color management design issues incorporated into the current operating systems and the hardware system standards inadvertently set back when the first personal micro processor based computers were being built. Where we started with the early eight bit monochrome display systems and the color management quagmire we are in today all started because of a lack of vision on the part of various international standards groups and constant progress in digital imaging technology. There are no real standards set and no agreement among makers of software and hardware that allow a consumer today to buy and install a new computer system and be assured that what they are seeing is a reasonable representation of an image created by someone else using different equipment.

A large part of this currently also has to do with various LCD panels and the illumination technologies used along with a somewhat moving target as far as what the standard color space should be for the various devices used in the reproduction chain of which your browser is also a part. Oh did I mention that many versions of the most popular browsers don't even know about color management?

The problem is in almost every part of the image reproduction chain and has little to do with the art of photography itself. How you deal with it depends on how much time and money you have to resolve these issues within your own image reproduction system and how well you understand the current color management system mess and what tools you have on/for your computer system to calibrate and profile all of the parts of the image reproduction chain on your computer system.

Why yes, TacOps weapons are approaching benchrest precision and IMO represent an amazing value in the world of tactical rifles. If I didn't have three kids to put through school I'd have at least one to shoot. Someday...
 
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Keith just came across this and I have to say that is one nice lookin rifle and scope combo! I think i would have went with a Lima with a Predator mask engraved on the floor plate and maybe chambered in 260, but that's just me! LOL
 
Re: My Tac Ops X-Ray 51 is here!!!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wildcat78</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Keith just came across this and I have to say that is one nice lookin rifle and scope combo! I think i would have went with a Lima with a Predator mask engraved on the floor plate and maybe chambered in 260, but that's just me! LOL </div></div>
Oh, do you mean something like this?

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Keith
 
Re: My Tac Ops X-Ray 51 is here!!!

No, exactly like that! Holy crap is that my rifle? You are right that looks freakin insane! The detail is crazy good! Mike-Ops never fails to amaze! Thanks for the teaser.
 
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I've saw Aries64 rifle at the range this week. Pictures do not do it justice. Fit finish and attention to detail are outstanding. The pictures make it look more yellow/green than it actually is.

Keith I'll shoot you a pm next time I go to ASR.
 
Re: My Tac Ops X-Ray 51 is here!!!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tim1071</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've saw Aries64 rifle at the range this week. Pictures do not do it justice. Fit finish and attention to detail are outstanding. The pictures make it look more yellow/green than it actually is.

Keith I'll shoot you a pm next time I go to ASR. </div></div>
Thanks for the kind words about my X-Ray Tim. It was nice meeting you and checking-out your USOs' - I used to have a loaded SN-3 myself. Great scope, but I'll soon have a second "German" PMII 5-25X Gen 2 XR to go on either a 7 WSM or a baby X-Ray - whichever comes-to-life first.

Keith
 
Re: My Tac Ops X-Ray 51 is here!!!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Aries64</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wildcat78</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Keith just came across this and I have to say that is one nice lookin rifle and scope combo! I think i would have went with a Lima with a Predator mask engraved on the floor plate and maybe chambered in 260, but that's just me! LOL </div></div>
Oh, do you mean something like this?

260LimaFloorplate7x10-1.jpg

260LimaFloorplateCU7x10-1.jpg

260CaliberEngraving10x7.jpg


Keith </div></div>

That is nice!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Excellent pictures bro!!!</div></div>

I would second that. I had no idea Tac Ops rifles looked like that in close ups
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VTI shoot me a call I have a surprise for you:)

<span style="font-weight: bold">Mike
Tac Ops</span>
 
Re: My Tac Ops X-Ray 51 is here!!!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Aries64</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Mike uses the set-up above for testing every one of his rifles before sending the action to Birdsong - if a rifle doesn't meet or exceed Tac Ops .25 MOA baseline he tears the gun apart, figures-out what the problem is, then reassembles and re-tests the rifle. He does this until the rifle meets or exceeds his .25 MOA guarantee. Once it does the action is sent to Birdsong for coating.

When an action comes back from Birdsong it is mated to it's stock and bedded. Then the rifle is taken to the range again and re-tested to be sure that it still meets the .25 MOA accuracy guarantee. </div></div>


If I understood correctly, he test fires the rifle for accuracy (0,25MOA) and then send the barreled action to Birdsong for finish. So, when it comes back, he bedded the action and test fire again for accuracy (0,25MOA).

So, where did he test the barreled action the first time? On which stock?
Or he does the bedding twice on the same stock (after and before Birdsong finish)?
 
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He definitely beds first. My action is waiting to be bedded before being sent to Birdsong. I don't know when he test fires. It would make more sense to test fire prior to finishing, otherwise, it would require refinishing should the test fire not go well (unless the issue is with the bedding job, which they test anyway prior to finishing, so likely shouldn't be the issue). That said, Mike can answer this question better than I can and he seems to be around here...
 
Re: My Tac Ops X-Ray 51 is here!!!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Carter Mayfield</div><div class="ubbcode-body">He definitely beds first. My action is waiting to be bedded before being sent to Birdsong. I don't know when he test fires. It would make more sense to test fire prior to finishing, otherwise, it would require refinishing should the test fire not go well (unless the issue is with the bedding job, which they test anyway prior to finishing, so likely shouldn't be the issue). That said, Mike can answer this question better than I can and he seems to be around here... </div></div>
Mike fires his rifles before and after I believe.