give all the power to the liberals and they’d TRY to round up the conservatives
That's where it would all go south...
For them.
I pray that day never comes.
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give all the power to the liberals and they’d TRY to round up the conservatives
That's where it would all go south...
For them.
I pray that day never comes.
Please don't pollute Lake Michigan with that filth!FIFY
I heard Kumbaya...I'm not saying getting to know your neighbor is going to be the answer for all of this, but I don't think I'm going way out on a limb to say that we MOST Americans want a lot of the same things - our family to be safe and healthy and prosperous, a future for our kids that isn't bleak, and to go to bed at night truly believing we live in the greatest country that has ever existed. Ever.
It should be a huge clue for you that no one cares to waste their time addressing your question.
It should be, but it won't be.
Actually you did, you were given a challenge, and you shrunk away from it with an effort to draw others into a me and you conversation. I am saying you're stupid and challenging you to refute the premise.
Funny now?
Yeah fuck breaking up this country.
What we need is expansion, I say invade Mexico build a wall on the border of Guatemala and then we make Cuba and Puerto Rico a state and add three stars to the flag.
You are certainly entitled to your own opinions.Will never happen Can't see it happening and if it did there would be massive blood shed that IMHO would just cripple us to the point someone from the outside would take control.
But in the perfect world of Red State / Blue State division just remember this - No unifying federal government so no federal moneys.
9 of the 10 biggest takers vs what they pay in the welfare bums or our country are RED states.
7 of the 10 biggest contributors vs what they receive are Blue states.
Alien invasion?Do you think these two sides can coexist?
Do you see any way that is possible?
If she truly didn't believe in fossil fuels she would live in a fucking cave...where does she think her nat gas and electric come from. How does she think her water gets pumped to her house.....the BS is strong with this one for sure.I heard Kumbaya...
I can relate. My neighbor is a flaming lib tard. She is the virtual poster child for liberalism almost to an unbelievable state. She works for a university researching the effect of pesticides on the environment, spends 6 months in Antarctica drilling holes in the ice and coming up with wild ass theories that have little to no bearing on normal life. But, while she is gone, I shovel and snow blow her walks and driveway. I have been doing this for 10 years now. She doesn't believe in fertilizer or weed killer, her lawn looks like shit. You could play the Masters on my lawn. While she is gone I spray her lawn adjacent to mine with my own concoction of grass go juice. I suspect she is on to my ruse, but doesn't care because it works out great for her...typical liberal. She wears a mask. EVERYWHERE. Outside riding her bike (she doesn't believe in fossil fuels) inside her house alone, gardening. All that being said, over the years we have actually been great neighbors. She borrows all my backpacking stuff, eats wild meat now, even went on a hunt herself. She gets my kid birthday presents. We give her stuff out of our garden. All good stuff that Americans do. I notice a shift in her thinking...towards the light so to speak. There is hope out there folks, but it all starts with us.
Now, if you will excuse I have to go get my guitar and write that last verse of Kumbaya I have been working on...
Can you quote your sources for these numbers?Will never happen Can't see it happening and if it did there would be massive blood shed that IMHO would just cripple us to the point someone from the outside would take control.
But in the perfect world of Red State / Blue State division just remember this - No unifying federal government so no federal moneys.
9 of the 10 biggest takers vs what they pay in the welfare bums or our country are RED states.
7 of the 10 biggest contributors vs what they receive are Blue states.
Yeah..... roll that 30 yrs into the future...work out some big picture issues like currency (and the crippling poverty associated with trying to stand up the currency of FEMA Region 4 against China), national defense, or a host of others. Balkanization is the end, not the beginning.
Sure they are conversations in jest, in real life they are bright line conversations. Real 'leaders' don't say stupid shit off the cuff. Unless....
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Can you quote your sources for these numbers?
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The left is always twisting that story around.Can you quote your sources for these numbers?
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and like it‘s been said before to this argument, the red states due to a large part only take the money to fund the Federally programs they are required to provide. People who want to continue living on the govt are welcome to move to a federal state. The red states will no longer HAVE to provide welfare in all of its cleverly disguised forms.Will never happen Can't see it happening and if it did there would be massive blood shed that IMHO would just cripple us to the point someone from the outside would take control.
But in the perfect world of Red State / Blue State division just remember this - No unifying federal government so no federal moneys.
9 of the 10 biggest takers vs what they pay in the welfare bums or our country are RED states.
7 of the 10 biggest contributors vs what they receive are Blue states.
Split em up. Red invades and concurs blue. Put em back together.
better man than me as my kids are no longer allowed around liberals or associate with dems outside of where they can't escape the interaction. those people are dangerous!I heard Kumbaya...
I can relate. My neighbor is a flaming lib tard. She is the virtual poster child for liberalism almost to an unbelievable state. She works for a university researching the effect of pesticides on the environment, spends 6 months in Antarctica drilling holes in the ice and coming up with wild ass theories that have little to no bearing on normal life. But, while she is gone, I shovel and snow blow her walks and driveway. I have been doing this for 10 years now. She doesn't believe in fertilizer or weed killer, her lawn looks like shit. You could play the Masters on my lawn. While she is gone I spray her lawn adjacent to mine with my own concoction of grass go juice. I suspect she is on to my ruse, but doesn't care because it works out great for her...typical liberal. She wears a mask. EVERYWHERE. Outside riding her bike (she doesn't believe in fossil fuels) inside her house alone, gardening. All that being said, over the years we have actually been great neighbors. She borrows all my backpacking stuff, eats wild meat now, even went on a hunt herself. She gets my kid birthday presents. We give her stuff out of our garden. All good stuff that Americans do. I notice a shift in her thinking...towards the light so to speak. There is hope out there folks, but it all starts with us.
Now, if you will excuse I have to go get my guitar and write that last verse of Kumbaya I have been working on...
Or you could just be a normal person and move.I am friggin' 100% with this idea. And if I am to move into a Patriot state from my current state of NY, I agree with having to PROVE my loyalty to the Constitution before I get my franchise back. Whether it be posse/ranger/militia service on the front line, or whatever, I am ready. Lets do it!
Or you could just be a normal person and move.
It's pretty straightforward. 2 steps.
1. You move to a red state.
2. Dont be a commie/Trotsky/Lefty. Vote your conservative values.
the trick is the military. My suggestion would be leave the military alone no matter where they are located. They are subject to their laws that govern the military. They are the shield to this land, blue or red and people should live how they see fit. I also think mandatory service for 99% of our youth Graduating high School. Even, ones deemed no combat capable. They could be trained to help any number of the jobs needed to make the military work. This way, it would not be just the red states supplying troops and I think once the blueys see just how evil their world can be will give the. A whole new perspective other than the latest media propaganda wants them to see.
The more I think about it, the stupider the idea of a national divorce or cw2 sounds. For thousands of years the people of a country are sacrificed for the whims of a few at the top. How many wars could have been avoided in human history if a couple key players were not in the picture?
Today, all of our division is sown by a couple people at the top, and no I don’t mean whoever the stupid president is. Think about the true reasons we are all divided, how did these ideas come about and how are they disseminated? I believe most people are just horribly misinformed and mind warped by a lifetime of propaganda. The answer is not turn over half the country, or sacrifice half the population to the warped thinking of a few.
You have a perfectly manicured lawn, and some asshole is standing there throwing dandelion and crabgrass seeds all in the yard, the answer is not to try and just keep spraying weeds or build a wall and give him half.
Yup. And both sides are laughing about extorting the working middle class, using our own tax dollars against us. It's the perfect con.One problem is we let them have about a third or more of our labor/income to feed their power & greed. The dems use their leftovers to buy votes in the name of inequality the republicans use their leftovers to buy votes in the name of national security. Neither side really gives two fucks about this country or anyone in it. It’s all about maintaining control of your tax dollars and how much money they can funnel back to themselves.
Right now the war of ideas is a bunch of dumb fucks with no structure thoroughly compromised from the inside up against the media, schools, leadership caste, and half of the population.No
No divorce.
What it would mean:
(1) We have given up on the war of ideas.
Our downfall into the same position as England in the 80s is already complete. The leaves just haven’t all fallen off the dead tree yet.(2) America as the most powerful nation on earth would be finished. There would be no one to oppose China/Russia. CHina would be unopposed to wage and impose its ideals on the world. This is a VERY bad thing (TM)
Already on that roller coaster, and the restraint bar is locked in the down position.(3) Our standard of living and prosperity would decline significantly.
Yup. That’s a given. A breakup may avoid the genocide of 50% of America though.(4) Large amounts of violence and bloodshed. The only peaceful breakup were countries that were patched together originally (Czechslovokia). The US in not one of them.
Not if I don’t live under them.(5) Bureaucracy would increase double. Think its bad now? Try navigating 2 (or 3!) government systems that are now antagonistic.
We aren’t pre-eminent now. Not anymore. The trajectory is solidly down.(7) Show me an example of a Large Country in history that broke up and remained pre-eminant. Be prepared for 100X counter Examples.
Plebiscite.(8) How do you divide states like Ohio, Wisconsin, Florida -- true Purple States.
If you came from X place, go back there.(10) Who gets the rest of the Military.
Major reform is coming. All of the mechanisms for a conservative purge are trundling into place.A divorce means defeat. You will lose.
You may think we may lose if the current situation holds. True.
You will lose in a divorce. Always.
We need major reform. We don't need a divorce.
Don't give up and give in to defeatist thinking.Right now the war of ideas is a bunch of dumb fucks with no structure thoroughly compromised from the inside up against the media, schools, leadership caste, and half of the population.
There is no war of ideas - there is a tranche of whiny conservatives throwing themselves in front of the machine to grease it’s way to domination.
Our downfall into the same position as England in the 80s is already complete. The leaves just haven’t all fallen off the dead tree yet.
Already on that roller coaster, and the restraint bar is locked in the down position.
Yup. That’s a given. A breakup may avoid the genocide of 50% of America though.
Not if I don’t live under them.
(6) Handing over the US finances (NY, Chicago, LA) to a regime aligned against you.
Already did
We aren’t pre-eminent now. Not anymore. The trajectory is solidly down.
Plebiscite.
(9) WHo gets the nukes. Yeah that won't be a nightmare.
Everyone needs them
If you came from X place, go back there.
Major reform is coming. All of the mechanisms for a conservative purge are trundling into place.
If we don’t manage a divorce the husband is going to shoot the wife and kids. We aren’t the husband this time FYI.
Get in line buddy!I wanna fuck her while she’s screaming Qanon talking points at me.