I have a Geissele SD-C, SD-E, and SD-3G, absolutely love all three.
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Need a new AR-15 trigger
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You’ve gotta take it easy on him, he’s retarded.
For this AR, I ordered a RISE RA-434. It is a fully adjustable single stage with some nice features. I'm going to build another one and I'll try one of the other triggers mentioned, Trigger Tech, Timney or Gissele. It will be nice to finally be rid of the Jewel trigger. That thing has been a mess since Smack the Smiley was first started. I would drive to the desert to shoot it, and on the cold bore shot it would double and ruin the target. More than once it happened.
Get your eyes checked. There are noticeable differences. Then get your head checked.
To postulate otherwise is setting new benchmarks in going beyond full retard.
Ok you bunch a fudds.
Turns out n2ishun is right! I don’t mind admitting when I’m wrong. His astute observations made me start looking at it harder and it’s not just the triggers!
There are all sorts of barely noticeable differences people are trying to pass off as something special.
Just look at these tires! They are basically the same. Only difference is those grove thingys.
And look at these red dots. Virtually identical other than that logo!
And look at these lady swimmers! All the same except for that little dangly bit!!!
Thanks for showing us the error of our ways! Glad I didn’t spend any more money on that marketing hype.
Turns out n2ishun is right! I don’t mind admitting when I’m wrong. His astute observations made me start looking at it harder and it’s not just the triggers!
There are all sorts of barely noticeable differences people are trying to pass off as something special.
Just look at these tires! They are basically the same. Only difference is those grove thingys.
And look at these red dots. Virtually identical other than that logo!
And look at these lady swimmers! All the same except for that little dangly bit!!!
Thanks for showing us the error of our ways! Glad I didn’t spend any more money on that marketing hype.
Put Mark Larue’s triggers in all my ARs. You put one in yours you will not be disappointed.
I absolutely love my AR TT triggers as much as the ones in my bolt guns. I think I have 6 total TT triggers and every one of them is flawless. The adjustability is outstanding and the most crisp break of anything I've shot. I haven't shot an Elftman match but basically all of the other big name ones I have.
Interesting to see the Rise A get some love. I've always wondered about them but never been bold enough to try one out.
Another vote for the LaRue MBT-2S trigger. Outstanding materials, quality, durability, repeatability, pull, break, and reset. I've run a lot of different triggers, including most mentioned in this thread, and to me, the MBT outperforms them all, but when you compare the price of the MBT (it used to be over $200, but the price has come down to around $89 last time I checked) to the other triggers, there's just no comparison.
Haaaa the chick on the right looks really pissed lulz. But never mind that bullshit is the tri burst trigger still available?
Twas a time I had them in all my rifles, match rifles and general BS jobbers. Little by little I replaced most of them, not for any shortcoming, but just to experiment and try something new. First was a Hyperfire 24C when they first came out, then a Timney (..eh), most recenlty the Triggertech. That was mostly as an excuse. I wanted to try them, and the rifle I'd just put together for my nephew had a horrible stock trigger. But I couldn't see spending MORE money on him, but buying myself something new and suddenly having a CMC I no longer needed and could give him seemed like a viable excuse/lie.
I could happily go back to the CMC's if I needed to.
I've never tried a Geissele that impressed me. They're certainly not bad by any means, but any I tried never lived up to the hype. That may be the hype-r's fualt. Way back, so many guys I shot multigun and rifle matches with loved them and talked them up (various models), when I tried them I thought "Oh.. uh, okay?" I suppose compared to the "out of the box" mil-spec (or worse) triggers they were used to and had been using, they were amazing. And they sang their praises because of that.
The Larue MBT 2S triggers are okay for slow precision shooting but they have the worst reset of any AR trigger I have used. They are a no-go for carbine use as far as I am concerned but would work and be the best bang for the buck for the OP’s varmint rifle use.
Tracking says the RISE trigger will be here Saturday. I'll have to play hooky at some point next week and try it out.
Even though you already ordered the RA 434, thought I'd add my late +1 for the TriggerTech Diamond, I absolutely love it, there's simply no comparison that I've tried. I also agree the G triggers are overpriced and over-hyped, which may be the reason I was less than impressed when I tried literally all of them, I expected the kind of trigger pull God would have on his AR, but fell substantially shotrt. LaRue MBT-2S is great for the money, easily best bang for your buck. CMC triggers are great, only tried their single stage though. Last, RA has a super nice trigger, it's the 545 or something, looks really cool, can't miss it. RA(I think) also came out with a very unique 2-stage trigger thats essentially 2 separate triggers in one, very interesting and I'm considering checking it out, but will wait for one to come up for sale in the forums, given their price is about the same as another TT Diamond, LoL. Let us know how you like the RA when it comes in!!!
I haven't tried a Geissele single stage yet, but I've heard good things.
I realize I’m late, but after reading two pages I’m shocked how under rated/represented TriggerTech is!
Is it because everyone is scared of spending ~$300 on an AR trigger?
I realize preferences differ, but for OP’s stated purpose in MY opinion TriggerTech diamond or even adaptive is absolutely untouchable, in a league of its own.
Maybe I’m just weird.
used 2 top shelf triggers for decades. settled on Giselle
Same here. These are all I ever build my guns with. If you wait for the holidays you can pick up Geissele SSA-E (2-stage) triggers for 170-180 bucks at Palmetto, AR Discounts and Primary Arms. Brownells occasionally sells 'em for ~ $190 during the same holiday sales but you get their unbeatable no questions asked lifetime guarantee. SSA-E triggers are normally ~$240. Can't beat 'em.
Larue MBT-2S (also 2 stage) triggers are also exceptional quality/feel for ~$90-125. Love 'em.
Just ordered this one to try out. Joeboboutfitters has them for $140.
I have both of those. Completely different in almost every way. Have you ever fired a rifle with either one of them?
The G2S is an SSA with a different method of holding the trigger pin in. Absolutely no difference otherwise in manufacture, feel, function, or pull weight. I run SSAs in all my ARs with one G2S mixed in somewhere (which is no issue since I also run KNS anti rotate pins in them all). I do not consider a single stage light pull trigger as a good match for an AR-15 or any other tactical rifle for that matter.
Blackout Defense Zero Trigger is a more recent release then most of the triggers previously recommended. Many gun you tubers that have done reviews on many triggers say this is the best trigger now. Available in 3 and 4.5 lb pull and 2 choices of coatings, DLC or Melonite & straight or bow trigger face all single stage
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AR-15 Zero™ Trigger – Flat - Blackout Defense
ATTENTION: THE AR-15 ZERO TRIGGERS ARE NOT COMPATIBLE WITH 9MM AR’S OR AR-10’s. WE ALSO DO NOT RECOMMEND USING THIS TRIGGER WITH MODIFIED BOLT CARRIER GROUPS OR BUFFER SYSTEMS. YOU MAY DAMAGE YOUR TRIGGER. PLEASE USE ONLY WITH MIL-SPEC CARRIERS AND BUFFER SYSTEMS. The short 2mm reset makes the...
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The first half of this thread reminds me of why I hate trigger threads so much.
It seems that a ton of people try their first aftermarket trigger, immediately recognize it as superior to the 8lb gritty piece of garbage they replaced then form a strong emotional attachment to it and use only that trigger for all future builds. Then they hop in every trigger thread to champion it's virtues and attack anyone who disagrees with them.
Then there's the guys that can't seem to understand that not everyone uses a trigger for the purpose they do. There are different triggers for different purposes. There are light triggers, heavy ones, single stage and 2 stage, adjustable and fixed, cassette and individual component triggers, and in all different price ranges and they all have a reason to exist.
If people spent half as much time trying different triggers as they do arguing about them they would accidentally turn into excellent marksmen.
It seems that a ton of people try their first aftermarket trigger, immediately recognize it as superior to the 8lb gritty piece of garbage they replaced then form a strong emotional attachment to it and use only that trigger for all future builds. Then they hop in every trigger thread to champion it's virtues and attack anyone who disagrees with them.
Then there's the guys that can't seem to understand that not everyone uses a trigger for the purpose they do. There are different triggers for different purposes. There are light triggers, heavy ones, single stage and 2 stage, adjustable and fixed, cassette and individual component triggers, and in all different price ranges and they all have a reason to exist.
If people spent half as much time trying different triggers as they do arguing about them they would accidentally turn into excellent marksmen.
Although I like me SSA-E as noted above I’ll add the best group of my life from an AR was just over 1/4” for 5 shots at 100 yards. Shot with a Mil spec colt trigger in a S&W lower. My Geissele makes precision shooting more enjoyable with the AR but I wouldn’t say it delivers life changing results “For Me” on target
But I definitely prefer 2 stage AR to single. Again “For Me”
But I definitely prefer 2 stage AR to single. Again “For Me”
As a general rule, these days gun YT channels are just paid advertisers- compensated with money, free product, or both. I know one channel who only had about 3500 subs and he was able to get the free Springfield Hellcat package with gun, optic, mags, holster, swag. That's how much SA spent on marketing the HC.
When it comes to AR triggers- I'm not willing to be a beta tester.
When it comes to AR triggers- I'm not willing to be a beta tester.
Where's your sense of adventure? Trying new things is what life is all about.
Take a look at the JP Roller trigger and also look at TT Triggers, you can't wrong with either.
I went with a geissele high speed nm because I heard it had fast lock time and because of the hype so I figured I'd give it a try. I don't regret the geissele at all, but I'd bet triggertech is crisper after putting one in a bolt gun. I recommended triggertech for the large frame AR my brother is building.
