Re: Need Help, Horus Reticle Question
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lowlight</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Alaskaman 11</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm not into the Horus debate, but when it comes to the sales staff, keep this in mind. There is good salesmen, that beleave in the product, understand it and like it. These ones are the true prevayors of ice. Then there is the guys who just like the sale and the making of a bucks. Im in the sales field and I love the product line I move. The hard part as a customer or a client is, what kind of salesman do I have in front of me.
As to Horus, it's never been explained to me how to use it, but I would think there is easier ways to "skin the cat" </div></div>
I can give you a perfect example in that, actually there are more than one examples, but I was asked to not repeat the latest from SHOT, so here is different but similar example.
<span style="font-style: italic">The FDAC vs the A1 Whiz Wheel </span>
Former Marines created the FDAC using Density Altitude, a simple slide rule type design very similar to the Mil Dot Master most of us are familiar with.
Shortly after, A1st came out with the Whiz Wheel which uses a similar DA method to get a ballistic solution. Now forget the fact a lot of people use DA from pilots to shooters, and actually the one to promote it sooner than most commercially was David Tubb. For a while he was producing custom DA cards, to include being used by SEALs. DA is pretty simple and combines Barometric Pressure, Temp, and Humidity to give you one number instead of having to use all 3.
A 1st Model
Now the sales pitch is the Whiz Wheel, being propriety, read: Intellectual property that is unique, etc, etc. That's great, except years before we saw this product on the line from the UK:
http://www.globalsecuritymarketing.com/tas_system
it pre-dates the whiz wheel, but since it's overseas, no patent issues to contend with, so the only real competition here in the US, the FDAC. How does this team address this:
You can go head to head with them, or you can simply use the network of influence you developed to tell people in the military they (FDAC) are infringing on your idea and in order to not by sued, you made them use "the wrong math" and trust me I have heard this first hand, and will not drop names. This is the type of business practices that bother me.
The wrong math... So like wild fire though the military establishment thanks to friends in high places, the assault against the FDAC starts based on this idea that the trajectory of a bullet based off of DA is propriety information, with ownership going back to A1st.
Hence my further dislike ... </div></div>
Um, so if the "math" is not accurate, how does the bullet um, like...hit the target and stuff?
The first time that I heard we stole, copied, ect the "math" used in the FDAC I knew we had hit a home run. We came up with the FDAC on a dry erase board one morning while drinking coffee at our office. I then made a cheesy one out of paper and plastic and we kept screwing around with it until we had it just the way we wanted it. Then I found a manufacturer, and had a prototype made. This was in early 2009.
Once it was released the drama started, and EVERY BIT OF IT was priceless comedy. The notion that two former Marine Scout Snipers would blatantly compromise their honor, credibility, etc by ripping off something from someone else is laughable. It truly points to the fact that there exists a fundamental misunderstanding of what it means to have been a Marine and carried the bolt gun in battle.
<span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold">Here's to those that fight for a living:</span></span>
If you're in a Scout Sniper platoon, or a sniper unit, etc, contact us via a .mil email address and we'll outfit your unit with (1) FDAC per precision rifle in your platoon/unit/team <span style="font-weight: bold">FOR FREE.</span> This applies to actual military snipers that are currently serving in a sniper/designated marksman billet.
Oh and the invitation to sit down and talk with Todd has been open for about two years. Sit down, have a beer, and just talk about it. Todd, stop and talk to us next time you're in Northern Virginia. We're not thieves, liars, or cheaters.
