New 700 feeding issues

[ded_on]

I've just picked up a new Rem 700 5r .308 and have had feeding issues from the first day. I figured I'd give it a few rounds before I figured there was anything wrong. The problem is the back of the cartridge doesn't get pushed up far enough by the follower for the bolt to catch the round.

Is this simply a weak spring not pushing hard enough on the rounds? It seems to happen on on rounds two and three more than any.

Is this a common problem with 700s?

 

[BobinNC]

Re: New 700 feeding issues

Reloads or factory rounds?

 

[ded_on]

Re: New 700 feeding issues

All factory so far. It's only had Remington through it so far while I was breaking it in and dialing in the scope. I'll see what it does with some match grade Hornaday next time I go to the range.

Before this last trip I've been cycling 4 A-Zoom snap caps to try and figure it out but they cycle flawlessly.

 

[dbsinh2o]

Re: New 700 feeding issues

I'd open up the floorplate and give everything a good cleaning. Check the edges of the follower and the magazine surfaces for rough spots which may be binding, and that the magazine sides didn't get bent in during assembly.

Hold on to the spring, and slowly move the follower to see if you notice any drag where it may be contacting the magazine sides.

 

[Dantrom]

Re: New 700 feeding issues

I have never heard of this,
but could the BDM cut out in the stock not be cut to the proper depth?

Keep us posted on what you find out!

 

[ARsR4ME]

Re: New 700 feeding issues

can you post some pics

 

[silverstang]

Re: New 700 feeding issues

I've got a brand new 700 Varmint and it does the exact same thing with Remington factory ammo. I've used a few other brands of hunting ammo such as winchester and federal, and I do not recall either of them doing this. This is the first time I have had an issue with a Remington feeding factory Remy ammo. It doesn't do it all the time, and I haven't gotten to shoot it very much. When I go to the range I usually single feed it, so I haven't paid much attention to it. I'll look at it tomorrow and see if I can see anything.


Edit; I do remember that by loading the rounds more towards the front helps out on this problem. I'll give it a look.

 

[dbsinh2o]

Re: New 700 feeding issues

Wonder if this has anything to do with the overall length of the Remington factory ammo?

Those A-Zoom snap caps are shorter than the real thing. Just a thought, but you might want to compare the overall length of the Remington ammo with your Hornady.

 

[planalpha]

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I have a SPS700 Varmint in .308 that has the same issue. I called Remington and they sent me a new spring and follower. The old follower was a flimsy stamped piece of metal, but the new one they sent is a much thicker cast one. The new spring actually broke as I was installing it and they sent out a new one. I watched the AGI video for the 700 and he bends the rear of it up to help with this problem. I have installed the new parts, bent the spring, experimented with squeezing/expanding the box, etc. and although it is much better, it is still not 100% reliable. Please PM me if you figure it out.

 

[Three Guns]

Re: New 700 feeding issues

I am having the same problem with my SPS in .223.

 

[BigMahi]

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Use fine sandpaper to smoothen the interrnal mag followed by steel wool. It could be rough/poor finish and/or burrs on the higher parts of the mag (where your experiencing feeding issues with the particular round). You'll remove a nice chunk of the finish and scratch the inside but it'll be worth it if it works.

Also use steel wool to deburr or smoothen the edges on the underside of the follower. The edges are cut at a sharp angle and is rough enough to give you a paper cut and resist against upward pressure.

 

[Ratbert]

Re: New 700 feeding issues

You might try replacing the stamped follower with a milled one. I've seen other BDL's where that's helped.

 

[PAINLESS]

Re: New 700 feeding issues

hint

http://asrealasitgets.net/forums/ubbthre....html#Post78464

 

[ZackOwns]

Re: New 700 feeding issues

I run into the same problem from time to time in my R700 tactical.. I found out it was my fault not making sure the rounds were seated correctly....

 

[ZULUTAC]

Re: New 700 feeding issues

My Team Leader ran into this issue with TAP rounds. We all shot LTRs, He shot an FN. We wanted to switch to TAP but we found that the case was slightly different than Fed GM. The small gap between the rim and the main body of the case is a slightly shallower angle than the FED GM. It was only slight, but just enough for the same malfunction. However, this was only the case on his last round due to less tension from the follower with no other rounds.

you may need to modify your spring to make it more Springy

or shoot different types of MATCH ammo, they have better consistent cases. Or talk to Remington about swapping your bolt, maybe the bolt was all so slightly out of spec.

 

[Peepaw]

Re: New 700 feeding issues

Lat time out, my 700 started having some issue's feeding as well. I quickly found my problem.


Ive got roughly 500 rounds down it now, and while I have cleaned rifle of course numerous times, never really took the time to inspect the bolt or mag. Always paying more attention to barrel and what not.

Anyways, I gave the mag and bolt a real good cleaning, lubed 'em up, and she is now good to go, no more feeding issue's.

With your rifle being newer, I doubt this is your issue. But, you may want to go ahead, and do a good cleaning on it anyways.

All of that being said, I do know that loading up ammo in the mag, if not done just right, can and will lead to feeding issue's.

Also, after you fire a round, are you going easy or fast or "normal" on cycling the bolt?
Reason Im asking is because I notice if that say, I want to keep ammo next to me, and pull back on bolt easy, that sometimes my 700 will not want to feed the next round.

I need to cycle the bolt with some "authority" to get it to feed properly.

So, in short:

Clean and lube bolt and mag
Make sure you are loading properly
Check your cycling of bolt.

 

[LoneWolfUSMC]

Re: New 700 feeding issues

VERY SIMPLE SOLUTION

Drop the floorplate and tweak the magazine spring by bending it so that the rear of the cartridges ride higher.

Bend in the middle of the legs NOT at the bends.

This is a common "adjustment" required.

 

[Hunt]

Re: New 700 feeding issues

LoneWolf nailed it.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LoneWolfUSMC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">VERY SIMPLE SOLUTION

Drop the floorplate and tweak the magazine spring by bending it so that the rear of the cartridges ride higher.

Bend in the middle of the legs NOT at the bends.

This is a common "adjustment" required. </div></div>

 

[popeye089]

Re: New 700 feeding issues

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LoneWolfUSMC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">VERY SIMPLE SOLUTION

Drop the floorplate and tweak the magazine spring by bending it so that the rear of the cartridges ride higher.

Bend in the middle of the legs NOT at the bends.

This is a common "adjustment" required. </div></div>
Also invest in AGI videos, it is a great vid to have around to help maintain your rifle. I've shot 700s my whole life and still rewatch this whenever a burp might come up with my or a friends rifle. Beets trying what joe shmoe does to his rifle with a grinder

 

[grunt0311]

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[/quote]
Also invest in AGI videos, it is a great vid to have around to help maintain your rifle. I've shot 700s my whole life and still rewatch this whenever a burp might come up with my or a friends rifle. Beets trying what joe shmoe does to his rifle with a grinder [/quote]

+1 on the AGI vidoes. I do have quite a lot of them and they always come in handy when a problem comes up. I would also suggest them as well.

 

[LoneWolfUSMC]

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The AGI videos are good, but it's hard to beat the hands on at a Remingon Armorers course.

 

[popeye089]

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No doubt about that. We were able to swing that course on post to LOL thanks Remington for being so nice to Military

 

[DernHumpus]

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I have this problem with my new 700 SPS Tactical. I will tweak the spring next time I have the gun out.

Thanks for the tips.

 

[clj94104]

Re: New 700 feeding issues

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LoneWolfUSMC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">VERY SIMPLE SOLUTION

Drop the floorplate and tweak the magazine spring by bending it so that the rear of the cartridges ride higher.

Bend in the middle of the legs NOT at the bends.

This is a common "adjustment" required. </div></div>

This fixed my issue. Thanks, LoneWolfUSMC!!!