New AI AX and AT pics with rifle Weights!

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    Pic #1 is an AT 308 w/24" bbl, weight is 13.95 lbs

    Pic #2 is an AX 338 w/25" bbl, weight is 14.45 lbs *

    Pic #3 is an AX 308 w/24" bbl, weight is 13.90 lbs

    *note 338's will come with either a 20" or 27" bbl from the factory. Custom bbl lengths can be made for an additional charge through us.

    Also, these are preproduction rifles, actual weights may vary slightly on final rifles coming from AI.
     
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    For comparison with my AIAW weights:

    AIAW Complete Rifle w/26" Border Barrel .308, Single Chamber Muzzle Brake, and Magazine (no scope, rings or bipod): 12.9 lbs.

    AIAW Action/Chassis, Skins, Bolt, Cheekpiece, w/o barrel, rings, etc. (Barrel off core action): 8.4 lbs
    AIAW Magazine: 5.5 ozs.


    AI, pretty please can you get a rifle down to about 9-10lbs.?

    I'd give up some of the ruggedness and mounting options to maintain the same action manipulation/ergonomics and trigger with less weight.
     
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    For comparison with my AIAW weights:

    AIAW Complete Rifle w/26" Border Barrel .308, Single Chamber Muzzle Brake, and Magazine (no scope, rings or bipod): 12.9 lbs.

    AIAW Action/Chassis, Skins, Bolt, Cheekpiece, w/o barrel, rings, etc. (Barrel off core action): 8.4 lbs
    AIAW Magazine: 5.5 ozs.


    AI, pretty please can you get a rifle down to about 9-10lbs.?

    I'd give up some of the ruggedness and mounting options to maintain the same action manipulation/ergonomics and trigger with less weight.

    +1 Totally agree.
     
    For comparison with my AIAW weights:

    AIAW Complete Rifle w/26" Border Barrel .308, Single Chamber Muzzle Brake, and Magazine (no scope, rings or bipod): 12.9 lbs.

    AIAW Action/Chassis, Skins, Bolt, Cheekpiece, w/o barrel, rings, etc. (Barrel off core action): 8.4 lbs
    AIAW Magazine: 5.5 ozs.


    AI, pretty please can you get a rifle down to about 9-10lbs.?

    I'd give up some of the ruggedness and mounting options to maintain the same action manipulation/ergonomics and trigger with less weight.


    Has anyone tried putting a carbon fiber stock, and modified bottom metal on a AE?
     
    Yes... PSE Composites made one - they are Carbon Fiber, I know because I have one for my Tikka.

    It might have been a weird question. I've been thinking about getting a centerfire rifle, and I couldn't decide between a custom rifle, and a AI rifle. The AI does everything I want except for its weight. People have talked about there being discounts on the discontinued AE. If I could get an AE for a reasonable price, and over time be able to lighten the rifle because the action isn't bonded, it would be the ultimate recreational rifle for me. It would blow everything else I have been considering out of the water.
     
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    Interesting weights. Surprised to see that the AT is heavier than the ax308mc and that the ax338mc is really only about 1/2lb heavier than the short actions. This is with a bigger action, bigger barrel and tenon, bigger mag and in this example a 1" longer barrel.
    Deducing from XOR's post, an AW barrel weighs 4.5lbs, which makes the profile, according kreigers profile list with weights, the same as a rem varmint contour, or something very similar.
    MH has the 24" AX barrel at about 4.9lbs though.
     
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    Which barrel brand does AI use?
    If you can choose what make you want, what's regarded the best?
    I'm from scandinavia, so purchasing one would be from an EU dealer. Don't know if the ones sold i uk have different barrel brands?
     
    Interesting weights. Surprised to see that the AT is heavier than the ax308mc and that the ax338mc is really only about 1/2lb heavier than the short actions. This is with a bigger action, bigger barrel and tenon, bigger mag and in this example a 1" longer barrel.

    I suspect if you didn't use the front NV mounting rail of the AT you'd lose at least 0.5+ lbs. The higher canted rail for the optic is likely heavier than the old style AW 0 MOA rail. So I'm thinking if you strip off what can be stripped off the AT it will probably be slightly heavier than the older AW (to include new barrel change feature). But of course this is all guessing. The AT will have the foregrip material which may make it heavier than the AX's barrel shroud. But the AT will have the spigot built in for the bipod whereas with the AX you'll have to put on mounting plates so you need to add those to the configured weight.

    In my spreadsheet I have the following weights for the components for reference. I don't have access to an AX so can't comment on the weights of that rifle:

    Core AW Components:

    AIAW Folding Chassis w/skins, trigger, bolt, scope rail, (no barrel, rings or scope attached) = 135 ozs./ 8.4 lbs.
    AI Thumbhole Skins (old style) = 23.9 ozs. / 1.5 lbs
    AIAW Magazine (each) = 5.5 ozs.
    AIAW Bolt = 16 ozs. / 1.0 lbs.

    Barrel Components:

    AI 26" UK .308 Barrel Threaded w/o Brake = 60.5 ozs/ 3.8 lbs.
    AI 20" UK .308 Barrel Threaded w/o Brake = 58.0 ozs./ 3.6 lbs.
    AI 26" UK .308 Barrel cut to 20" (Estimated) = 46.6 ozs./ 2.9lbs.
    AINA 26" Bartlein .260 Threaded w/o Brake = 77 ozs. / 4.8 lbs.*
    AI Single Chamber Muzzle Brake = 5.1 ozs.

    * The Bartlein .260 barrel is a heavier and appears to have a different profile than the UK .308 version barrel. I don't know if the Bartlein .308 barrels share the same profile as the .260 barrels. If they do, then I'd get the UK barrel if you want to save weight.

    Other Components:

    AI Parker Hale Style Bipod: 24.8 ozs. / 1.6 lbs.
    AI Sling w/HK Hooks: 6.3 ozs.
     
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    Really are gorgeous rifles. Although they're kinda piggies.

    I guess if all I wanted to do was prone it might be a different story.... But I think I just did the math away from an AI. Esp considering something like the KRG chassis can get down to 3.8lbs or so leaving a rifle that would be sub-10.

    Bummer. Because it is clear AI has a former rolls royce designer doing their CAD, and dude is good for perspective and detail.
     
    Is the AI dovetail still on these new receivers, under the removable rail?

    I asked this question to the AINA rep last week at SHOT and he said the dovetail is not machined into the AT. The rail is bolted on with a few steel studs pinning the rail to the receiver for additional strength. I am guessing the other new models are the same but I did not specifically ask about them.

    Darin
     
    I asked this question to the AINA rep last week at SHOT and he said the dovetail is not machined into the AT. The rail is bolted on with a few steel studs pinning the rail to the receiver for additional strength. I am guessing the other new models are the same but I did not specifically ask about them.

    Darin

    Thanks for the answer on that Darin. I hope they will be offering these rifles with a shorter pic rail then so the scope can be mounted closer to the bore (with NV bracket removed).
     
    Most all custom rifles are overrated too, and by that I mean they are all the same. Other than maybe using different machines, one tube screwed onto an action is the same as the next all things (build procedures) being equal.
     
    Real pictures

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    Hi Lowlight,
    What's the barrel length of the AX308 pictured here?

    I'm thinkin of buying a AX338 and leaning towards a 13" forend as shown on the 308.
    Any disadvantages with the 13" aside from having less space to mount stuff? Reason i'm askin because i plan to mount a supressor that has back chambers(bacwards towards the rail).

    I have also not made up my mind in terms of barrel length, since using 300gr Bergers is planned i'm not sure the 27" barrel gives sufficent speed?

    Best Regards