I got a M700 in .300 RUM and I'm going to put a Kreiger barrel on it to replace the KP thats on it now and send the rifle to have the action trued. My questions are: is the there any added benefit to 5R rifling over standard rifling? Is the MTU contour heavy enough for serious long range work or do I need to go bigger? Another question I live in TN and don't know that there are any smiths around here to chamber the blank and true the action to the barrel. Is there anyone within reasonable distance to me that does outstanding work?
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Re: new barrel questions
Krieger will install the barrel and true the action for you. Details are on their website. And you can call them. For what they charge for the 5R rifling, I think it is worth it. But, I'm a relative newbie. The US govmint thought 5R was worth it for the M24 rifles.
If they do the action work for you, all you really have left is bedding it in the stock, which you can consider doing yourself with instructions here on the forum. They will parkerize the barrel and or action with a relatively dark parkerizing.
Hope this helps and welcome to the funny farm.
Krieger will install the barrel and true the action for you. Details are on their website. And you can call them. For what they charge for the 5R rifling, I think it is worth it. But, I'm a relative newbie. The US govmint thought 5R was worth it for the M24 rifles.
If they do the action work for you, all you really have left is bedding it in the stock, which you can consider doing yourself with instructions here on the forum. They will parkerize the barrel and or action with a relatively dark parkerizing.
Hope this helps and welcome to the funny farm.
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From my limited experience the quality of Kreiger gunsmithing is lacking compared to what you will see with some of the better smiths that frequent this site. Love their barrels, pass on the gunsmithing. IMHO/YMMV
Good luck
Jerry
From my limited experience the quality of Kreiger gunsmithing is lacking compared to what you will see with some of the better smiths that frequent this site. Love their barrels, pass on the gunsmithing. IMHO/YMMV
Good luck
Jerry
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Yeah I'm thinking about sending it to GAP. Now what about that MTU contour anyone using it?
Yeah I'm thinking about sending it to GAP. Now what about that MTU contour anyone using it?
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I'm not sure but I want the from the front of the chamber to the end of the barrel, not the break, to be 28 inches.
I'm not sure but I want the from the front of the chamber to the end of the barrel, not the break, to be 28 inches.
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FWIW, I ordered a Kreiger SS fluted MTU 5R to be finished at 26" a month or so ago. My research indicated that the 5R benefits were reduced fouling but no one could point to any advantage in barrel life or accuracy. I plan on screwing a brake on the end of mine when I send it to the smith and having the action trued. I am building out an aught 6 and plan on its duty to be between 500-800 yards, further if the occasion arises. I could have gotten a standard rifling quicker, but I decided if I were going to wait any length of time that I would go ahead and wait on the 5R. It will be a big ole heavy barrel but I don't plan on toting this rifle much further than the truck to the bench...
As far a a smith, a quick trip down 65 from you is Hooper Ordnance. I suspect he can take care of you.
Semper Fi
FWIW, I ordered a Kreiger SS fluted MTU 5R to be finished at 26" a month or so ago. My research indicated that the 5R benefits were reduced fouling but no one could point to any advantage in barrel life or accuracy. I plan on screwing a brake on the end of mine when I send it to the smith and having the action trued. I am building out an aught 6 and plan on its duty to be between 500-800 yards, further if the occasion arises. I could have gotten a standard rifling quicker, but I decided if I were going to wait any length of time that I would go ahead and wait on the 5R. It will be a big ole heavy barrel but I don't plan on toting this rifle much further than the truck to the bench...
As far a a smith, a quick trip down 65 from you is Hooper Ordnance. I suspect he can take care of you.
Semper Fi
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gugubica</div><div class="ubbcode-body">MTU is way heavier than you need. </div></div>
WAY HEAVIER
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gugubica</div><div class="ubbcode-body">MTU is way heavier than you need. </div></div>
WAY HEAVIER
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Weight wise, I cut .5 pound with the fluting. My needs are from the truck to the bench, so weight was not a deciding factor. In my aught 6 the weight actually helps a little with the recoil. What is left will be helped by the brake.
I understand the "trend" is to go to shorter, lighter barrels and the arguments for such for the most part are valid in most instances. It depends on your particular needs and build. Just like the 5R rifling. Is it needed? Most certainly not. Is it justified? Maybe.. Maybe not...
My suggestion is just what you are doing right now. Ask the question across a couple boards, listen to the suggestions and arguments, make a decision, and pull the trigger. I gurantee that is what every single person posting up did before they made their decision.
But, I suppose someone posting "the MTU is way heavier than what you need" without giving an explanation why, is of very little use to you.
Semper Fi
Weight wise, I cut .5 pound with the fluting. My needs are from the truck to the bench, so weight was not a deciding factor. In my aught 6 the weight actually helps a little with the recoil. What is left will be helped by the brake.
I understand the "trend" is to go to shorter, lighter barrels and the arguments for such for the most part are valid in most instances. It depends on your particular needs and build. Just like the 5R rifling. Is it needed? Most certainly not. Is it justified? Maybe.. Maybe not...
My suggestion is just what you are doing right now. Ask the question across a couple boards, listen to the suggestions and arguments, make a decision, and pull the trigger. I gurantee that is what every single person posting up did before they made their decision.
But, I suppose someone posting "the MTU is way heavier than what you need" without giving an explanation why, is of very little use to you.
Semper Fi
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My walkaround rifles wear shorter (22"-ish) sporter weight barrels and seldom weigh much more than 8lb all-up. They are configured as hunters and are not intended for sustained fire. There are three, they are all Long Actions; and two are chambered in .30-'06, and the third in .280 Rem. However, my M70 .30-'06 shoots well enough to bring home a trophy in the 1997 NJ State Sniper Championship using nothing more esoteric than FGMM 168 loads.
My match rifles are configured as range queens, wear varmint contour, typically longer (28"-ish) barrels; and will normally see 50-60 rounds going down range in two 30 minute stages during a day's outing. Generally, mine are still relatively lighter weight, around 12-13lb; and are chambered in less reactive chamberings, like .260 rem.
Currently working on load development with a box-stock MKI Varmint Ruger in .280 Rem.
I can't speak about Krieger barrels or gunsmithing. Except for the above remarks, all I've ever heard of them is good. I like the Savage rifles and my premium aftermarket barrels are made and completely finished for owner installation by Lothar-Walther. I find the arrangement to be quite effective.
Greg
My walkaround rifles wear shorter (22"-ish) sporter weight barrels and seldom weigh much more than 8lb all-up. They are configured as hunters and are not intended for sustained fire. There are three, they are all Long Actions; and two are chambered in .30-'06, and the third in .280 Rem. However, my M70 .30-'06 shoots well enough to bring home a trophy in the 1997 NJ State Sniper Championship using nothing more esoteric than FGMM 168 loads.
My match rifles are configured as range queens, wear varmint contour, typically longer (28"-ish) barrels; and will normally see 50-60 rounds going down range in two 30 minute stages during a day's outing. Generally, mine are still relatively lighter weight, around 12-13lb; and are chambered in less reactive chamberings, like .260 rem.
Currently working on load development with a box-stock MKI Varmint Ruger in .280 Rem.
I can't speak about Krieger barrels or gunsmithing. Except for the above remarks, all I've ever heard of them is good. I like the Savage rifles and my premium aftermarket barrels are made and completely finished for owner installation by Lothar-Walther. I find the arrangement to be quite effective.
Greg
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