Now since I was one of the very first US F TR Team Members and helped set the fng thing up, went to Two World Championships and did OK I find it crummy that other F Class Shooters are shitting on guys who are attempting to get a division for Tactical Shooters. We should be helping that to get going. Because it will add more shooters to the shooting sports and strengthen our base. This elite Golf Club Members only mentality is pure crap
The frame work was done by Vu, so we don't have to reinvent the wheel. Just tweak it. Get rid of bullet length restriction for tactical class. Just use Over All Caliber length of 2.8". That can be checked with gauge on line and Darrell ( Last two cycles Team Captain" and I I ( Last Vice Captain" did so several times. Use a rod for barrel length and your done.
To say that I am befuddled by the highlighted statement is putting it mildly. I do not remember any F Class shooters on this thread shitting on people attempting to get a division. There was some push back at the idea of wanting to change the existing rules of F-TR to make it easier for "tactical rigs" to be competitive. But I don't remember anyone saying "don't even think of starting a grass roots movement, of setting a framework of rules, of finding like-minded shooters who would come out and compete and build from there and then take it to the NRA for approval." I would have to reread the whole thread again, but I'm fairly confident that I won't find that sentiment in the posts.
What I do remember is a lot of people saying, "get off the keyboard, and start working it. And, oh by the way, here are some issues to consider while you're making up the rules. And, oh by the way (2), there has already been some approach made to the NRA about this concept, maybe you should research it, get the proposal and start assembling shooters to compete under these rules and see where it goes."
If some people show up at our monthly LR match and want to play under FPR rules, I will have no problem accommodating them, and the club will take their money. They will have to follow the no-brake/no-suppressor NRA rule.
Now, I know that a lot of you think classification is all bunk. And in many cases, I agree with you, but only up to a point. There is quite a bit of competition going on at the various classification levels at our club, and people seem happy with that. The HMs in F-Open and Match Rifles have their matches going on and it's fun to watch. The masters in those two division always like to throw in a curve and win a match or two. We have quite a few experts in F-TR and that's been fairly rambunctious there too. I just got kicked out of that classification so now, I'll be alone for a while or playing with whichever F-open master drifts over for a match. This rivalry is throughout the classifications and people love it when they get classified and get away from the Master/Unclassified thing and start having fun in Marksman and Sharpshooter.
But also, when someone gets bumped up in classification, that shows progress and people enjoy that. It's an achievement and I think many people are proud of their achievements; not everyone gets to go to the big matches or the Nationals or the Worlds. What makes a local club strong is having people come back again and grow.
So when these FRP folks sign up they will see that there is no classification for them since FRP is not recognized or tracked by the NRA. You all think it's not an issue but you're not the one getting the evil eye from these shooters. And who's to say what the rules are going to be if and when the NRA finally sanctions this division. So if they shoot a .308 and they want some type of classification, they should shoot in F-TR hoping that whatever classification they achieve if and when FRP is sanctioned would apply just as currently whatever you achieve in F-Open or F-TR is your F-class classification. If they shoot other than .223 or .308 they can shoot in F-Open and they can keep track of how they score one against the other. If there are enough of them, we could score them against each other and report back the scores to the NRA in F-Open or F-TR.
If and when the NRA sanctions the division, I will have ended my penance as Match Director years ago.
