how rugged are these scopes compared to the current nightforce and schmidt and bender lines? I know the older scopes, even the gen 3s, were very questionable. Have there been any improvements at all?
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Rifle Scopes New Gen 4 IOR Scope ruggedness
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Re: New Gen 4 IOR Scope ruggedness
Scott at liberty optics has reported 100% reliability with the new version.
I myself have a 33.5-18x50 and have no problems.
Scott at liberty optics has reported 100% reliability with the new version.
I myself have a 33.5-18x50 and have no problems.
Re: New Gen 4 IOR Scope ruggedness
Are you a normal person or do you treat your scopes like that old luggage commercial where the chimp is bashing the suitcase against the floor of his cage?
Are you a normal person or do you treat your scopes like that old luggage commercial where the chimp is bashing the suitcase against the floor of his cage?
Re: New Gen 4 IOR Scope ruggedness
I'm a normal person, but I'll go with the chimp bashing the suitcase against the floor for $50, Alex.
I'm a normal person, but I'll go with the chimp bashing the suitcase against the floor for $50, Alex.
Re: New Gen 4 IOR Scope ruggedness
Well, my 3-18x42 4th gen has been fine; it tracks, holds zero and the reticle is straight. The build quality isn't as good as the NF or Vortex Razor scopes I've used though.
FWIW I bought mine used for 1100.
Well, my 3-18x42 4th gen has been fine; it tracks, holds zero and the reticle is straight. The build quality isn't as good as the NF or Vortex Razor scopes I've used though.
FWIW I bought mine used for 1100.
Re: New Gen 4 IOR Scope ruggedness
amazing to me that I always hear this. I have an original gen 1 SH IOR scope. It has been flawless and I trust it more than the US Optics I had or the premier I have. It has been beat up and is still going. Never had to rezero once unless the load changed. I double checked with old ammo to make sure it isn't the scope. I just need to find a cap that can hold up. I must have went through a dozen butler creek caps by now.
amazing to me that I always hear this. I have an original gen 1 SH IOR scope. It has been flawless and I trust it more than the US Optics I had or the premier I have. It has been beat up and is still going. Never had to rezero once unless the load changed. I double checked with old ammo to make sure it isn't the scope. I just need to find a cap that can hold up. I must have went through a dozen butler creek caps by now.
Re: New Gen 4 IOR Scope ruggedness
I've had mine on a .300 wm for over 300 rounds. Maintains zero, good clicks and the reticle is nice. For the money it's worth it. Unless the super sniper proves great than that might be the way to go for the 1000-1500 range scope.
I've had mine on a .300 wm for over 300 rounds. Maintains zero, good clicks and the reticle is nice. For the money it's worth it. Unless the super sniper proves great than that might be the way to go for the 1000-1500 range scope.
Re: New Gen 4 IOR Scope ruggedness
Had a gen 2 3-18x42 that went tits up sent it back, and was sent a new gen 4 (great CS BTW). Sold the gen 4 and bought a 3.5-18x50 from Liberty Optics, have had it for about a year and it's great. So great that I just bought 2.5-10x42 FFP IOR from a guy here on the hide. I think they are great scopes.
Had a gen 2 3-18x42 that went tits up sent it back, and was sent a new gen 4 (great CS BTW). Sold the gen 4 and bought a 3.5-18x50 from Liberty Optics, have had it for about a year and it's great. So great that I just bought 2.5-10x42 FFP IOR from a guy here on the hide. I think they are great scopes.
Re: New Gen 4 IOR Scope ruggedness
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: montana</div><div class="ubbcode-body">amazing to me that I always hear this. I have an original gen 1 SH IOR scope. It has been flawless and I trust it more than the US Optics I had or the premier I have. It has been beat up and is still going. Never had to rezero once unless the load changed. I double checked with old ammo to make sure it isn't the scope. I just need to find a cap that can hold up. I must have went through a dozen butler creek caps by now.
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I also have a Gen 1 that is working like a clock.
It is probably the most beat up scope I have, but it keeps on ticking.
ILya
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: montana</div><div class="ubbcode-body">amazing to me that I always hear this. I have an original gen 1 SH IOR scope. It has been flawless and I trust it more than the US Optics I had or the premier I have. It has been beat up and is still going. Never had to rezero once unless the load changed. I double checked with old ammo to make sure it isn't the scope. I just need to find a cap that can hold up. I must have went through a dozen butler creek caps by now.
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I also have a Gen 1 that is working like a clock.
It is probably the most beat up scope I have, but it keeps on ticking.
ILya
Re: New Gen 4 IOR Scope ruggedness
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: montana</div><div class="ubbcode-body">amazing to me that I always hear this.</div></div>
Don't worry I'm sure someone will come in here and say that we should be buying real scopes like Leupies instead of giving our money to Dracula...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: montana</div><div class="ubbcode-body">amazing to me that I always hear this.</div></div>
Don't worry I'm sure someone will come in here and say that we should be buying real scopes like Leupies instead of giving our money to Dracula...
Re: New Gen 4 IOR Scope ruggedness
Hey BCP,
You should be buying real scopes like Leupies instead of giving our money to Dracula.
Now, having said that, the IOR 3.5-18x50 and Leupold 6.5-20 with locking turrets are both on my short list. Oh, the irony.
Josh
Hey BCP,
You should be buying real scopes like Leupies instead of giving our money to Dracula.
Now, having said that, the IOR 3.5-18x50 and Leupold 6.5-20 with locking turrets are both on my short list. Oh, the irony.
Josh
Re: New Gen 4 IOR Scope ruggedness
On the subject of the 3-18 x 42s, I have three of them. 2 were purchased very early and are Gen 1s and one that I purchased later is a Gen 2.
One of the Gen 1s broke on its very first outing after 20-something shots on my new AR10. IOR had a Gen 3 replacement in my hands in less than a week and it has been going strong ever since. Both IOR and Scott @ Liberty has said with the Gen 1-2-3 versions it seems they either break almost immediately after being put into service or they hold up. I haven't had any problems with my other Gen 1 or the Gen 2-- they just keep on working.
I also have a 3.5-18 x 50 (equivalent to Gen 4 internals) which has been perfect and I really prefer it to the 3-18 x 42. I like the 3-18 x 42 but the tube/turret configuration with the short rear section usually means when on a bolt gun even mounted all the way back you still have to stretch your neck to get in the eyebox as you physically can't mount the scope far enough rearward. The longer rear tube on the 3.5-18 x 50 and more forgiving eyebox on higher magnification than the 42mm version gives much more mounting flexibility when mounting it on a typical bolt gun and it isn't a problem to achieve good eye relief.
The 42mm version does work great on something with ample rail length and mounting flexibility like an AR. Both the 42mm and 50mm have great reticles, very good glass, the knobs feel quite good and the elevation knob is quite easy to read because of the large diameter and large & widely spaced hash marks.
If I needed any new scopes right now I wouldn't hesitate to buy the new Gen 4 3-18 x 42 or better yet the 3.5-18 x 50; other than the issue with my one known to be problematic Gen 1 I've had very good experiences with all the others.
On the subject of the 3-18 x 42s, I have three of them. 2 were purchased very early and are Gen 1s and one that I purchased later is a Gen 2.
One of the Gen 1s broke on its very first outing after 20-something shots on my new AR10. IOR had a Gen 3 replacement in my hands in less than a week and it has been going strong ever since. Both IOR and Scott @ Liberty has said with the Gen 1-2-3 versions it seems they either break almost immediately after being put into service or they hold up. I haven't had any problems with my other Gen 1 or the Gen 2-- they just keep on working.
I also have a 3.5-18 x 50 (equivalent to Gen 4 internals) which has been perfect and I really prefer it to the 3-18 x 42. I like the 3-18 x 42 but the tube/turret configuration with the short rear section usually means when on a bolt gun even mounted all the way back you still have to stretch your neck to get in the eyebox as you physically can't mount the scope far enough rearward. The longer rear tube on the 3.5-18 x 50 and more forgiving eyebox on higher magnification than the 42mm version gives much more mounting flexibility when mounting it on a typical bolt gun and it isn't a problem to achieve good eye relief.
The 42mm version does work great on something with ample rail length and mounting flexibility like an AR. Both the 42mm and 50mm have great reticles, very good glass, the knobs feel quite good and the elevation knob is quite easy to read because of the large diameter and large & widely spaced hash marks.
If I needed any new scopes right now I wouldn't hesitate to buy the new Gen 4 3-18 x 42 or better yet the 3.5-18 x 50; other than the issue with my one known to be problematic Gen 1 I've had very good experiences with all the others.
Re: New Gen 4 IOR Scope ruggedness
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BCP</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Don't worry I'm sure someone will come in here and say that we should be buying real scopes like Leupies instead of giving our money to Dracula... </div></div>
good point
I have a 3-18x42 gen 4 hard as a rock .
But i'm from Dracula's country so i can be subjective
and our rocks not to be so hard as yours.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BCP</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Don't worry I'm sure someone will come in here and say that we should be buying real scopes like Leupies instead of giving our money to Dracula... </div></div>
I have a 3-18x42 gen 4 hard as a rock .
But i'm from Dracula's country so i can be subjective
Re: New Gen 4 IOR Scope ruggedness
Guys,
I have always been transparent about these issues. The Gen 4 scopes have 100% and there should be no worries at all.
GETODAC welcome aboard and I would love to discuss IOR optics with you
Scott
Guys,
I have always been transparent about these issues. The Gen 4 scopes have 100% and there should be no worries at all.
GETODAC welcome aboard and I would love to discuss IOR optics with you
Scott
