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Where da link yo?
The 318 is listed as 3200 euros and selling for $3199 us. I bet it will be around $3300 US dollars.€3300 ouch!!
That's never a bad idea ;-)I’ll wait til Gen 3 of this scope is out.
Any idea on price?
Noticed that as well.One interesting thing is that wide FOV was always something Kahles really pursued, but the K525 does not seem to do that. I am sure it is going to be a competent design, but the proof is in the pudding. We'll see how it does when it is out in the wild.
ILya
Maybe it's because of the shorter design? I was hoping for something near the Minox/TT but it's still better than the K624i and better than Schmidt and NF in that regard.One interesting thing is that wide FOV was always something Kahles really pursued, but the K525 does not seem to do that. I am sure it is going to be a competent design, but the proof is in the pudding. We'll see how it does when it is out in the wild.
ILya
Why did MHSA drop them?Good for Kahles but I wish MHSA was still carrying them - that's where I bought 3 of my 624s - which have performed flawlessly and won't be replaced anytime soon.
When I was looking at getting a K624i I talked with several places that sold Kahles and the answer I got every single time was that there is a repair facility in Rhode Island that could repair certain problems. If the Rhode Island facility could not repair it then it would be shipped back to Austria.Are Kahles scopes still being shipped to Austria for warranty service or is Swarovski USA managing most issues?
It could be that you don't shoot in situations where it would be more apparent, or your eyes naturally don't see it. The Schmidt's I've had exhibit slight CA fringing, the March handles it better, the AMG even better and the Premier and Minox ZP5 the best. These are other scopes I've had within the price range of the Kahles and they all exhibited better control over CA than the Kahles. CA is an aberration that can be controlled by the optical formula (how they design the scope). The K624i wasn't horrible, but it was definitely more than other scopes within its "class", that is why I'm hoping the K525i which has a completely new optical formula will have addressed this issue. If the K525i is at least on par with Schmidt & Bender I would be thrilled, if it's not then that'll be disappointing especially with all the iterations of the K624i and now a complete redesign for the K525i. It's not that the scope won't perform, but it's like buying a high end camera lens, you expect it to be better than the lower end models in all regard.None of the Gen 2 or Gen 3 K624i scopes I've owned (total of six over the years) had enough CA to bother me at all. There's some slight purple fringing in certain conditions, but it's nowhere near as much or as bad as that of my Bushnell 3.2-21x50 ERS
Honest question - has anyone EVER missed a target because of CA?
I have 3 Khales K624's. I've never noticed CA in any of them. Perhaps CA exists in my scopes and I have never noticed it - certainly a possibility.
I only really care about things that will make a difference on target. I think the bickering about CA on this site is asinine.
Honest question - has anyone EVER missed a target because of CA?
I have 3 Khales K624's. I've never noticed CA in any of them. Perhaps CA exists in my scopes and I have never noticed it - certainly a possibility.
I only really care about things that will make a difference on target. I think the bickering about CA on this site is asinine.
Yes - 22.8' at 100 yards or 24.93' (7.6m) at 100 meters at 5x (these are the specs from Minox)wjm308,
Can you confirm the FOV specs on the minox are at 100 yards or 100 meters?
If anyone ever blamed CA for missing a shot they are mistaken, it is an optical aberration and has nothing to do with whether or not you can get a proper POA.Honest question - has anyone EVER missed a target because of CA?
Then I recommend that you don't try to find it, I will be the first to admit that I wish it didn't bother me, but it does, especially since I live at elevation and frequently get snow and when you see that purple fringing all over the place while looking through the scope, well... it bugs me, and when I pay that much money for a scope, I expect it to be mechanically and optically on par with other scopes in its class, this includes clarity, contrast, resolution, depth and yes, CA.I have 3 Khales K624's. I've never noticed CA in any of them. Perhaps CA exists in my scopes and I have never noticed it - certainly a possibility.
That is subjective to what your target is. If you're only shooting daytime steel then your'e only going to care about specific features that are suited to these conditions; however, if you also care about hunting in low light then that opens other doors, larger objective which draws more light (larger exit pupil at given magnifications), better resolution, contrast and color which will help you see your hidden prey in the thick stuff and so forth.I only really care about things that will make a difference on target.
That's okay, like my dad used to tell me "you're entitled to your own wrong opinion." Seriously though, you call it bickering because it doesn't bother you, is there anything that does bother you about any other scope and do you ever bring it up on the forum? I'm not telling anyone not to buy a Kahles, I've praised Kahles in many areas and think they are amazing scopes, but I replaced the Kahles with the AMG because I thought the AMG performed very close optically and mechanically but stomped the Kahles in regard to CA. CA bothers me, it doesn't bother you, but the fact that almost every other scope in its class outperforms it when it comes to CA does raise a flag (for me). The reason I "bicker" as you call it is because manufacturers watch these forums and they take note and I want to identify certain shortcomings so they can be addressed in future models. In the meantime plenty of shooters will continue to use the K624i to great success.I think the bickering about CA on this site is asinine.