Was shooting my 4-16 F1 to 700 on AR this morning. Fun stuff. I have a variety of xmas tree reticles and have used them for a long time but I've also come to appreciate a very clean view. My question is: when are you missing by so much in elevation that a quick correction with standard mil reticle doesn't work as good as an xmas tree? I've kind of wanted to post this as a separate topic. I know competitors might try to run a stage without dialing but how often? I'm just curious and I've shot a dedicated bdc tree reticle for about 10 yrs now, the DTR. Great reticle, there are just certain scenarios and rifles that I have where mil reticle is all I need and a little more versatile, particularly on my desert tech rifle. I run the DTR on my 6xc, EBR7 AMG on my desert tech and have the F1 on an AR right now.