New Remington 700 coming out.

[Rhyno]

Kinda neat, nothing special really. Saw it on Facebook.

Articles - New Remington 700 Tactical Chassis Rifle - Big News Exclusively from SHWAT?!

 

[FunkBass2008]

Looks like a Barrett 98 mixed with an AR. Good move on using AICS mags..

 

[308Shooter1911]

Nice…But with an MSRP of $2900, I think I would rub few more pennys together and get a SAKO, AI, or GAP…Thats just me though. Great looking rifle though...

 

[ashiha]

1/3 MOA from someone that claims he is an inexperienced shooter with factory ammo might just be worth it for me in 338 LM if it ends up being near 1/4 MOA with hand loads. They also mentioned that it is modular but failed to mention if that is in regards to changing barrels out like the AI PSR or something else. If you can change calibers on the field, you're looking at comparing this to MUCH more expensive rifles.

I'd still like to have a few questions answered.

1. Is the rifle capable of changing barrels/calibers without a gunsmith?
2. What does the rifle weigh?
3. What is the rifle capable of with handloads?
4. What will the support of the rifle be like in terms of accessories and aftermarket parts?
5. Along with the above, will some R700 parts be compatible with this (like triggers)?
6. MSRP is $2900, but what can we expect to pay?
7. What kind of bolt/action are we looking at (2 lug or 3)?
etc.

Definitely interested though.

 

[ashiha]

Actually, it looks like the rifle might just be a regular R700 action in this chassis:
MDT TAC21 and LSS Tactical Chassis Systems

In which case...meh.

 

[Ultraman550]

I don't understand why it's $2900? It's a Remington in an MDT chassis? I highly doubt the action is even close to a custom action or a trued remington action and the barrel is a remington, not a Bartlein, Shilen, Rock etc... I mean adjust my numbers if I am wrong:

Action only $450
Barrel $350
Truing Job $250
X Mark trigger $30
AAC Brake $90
PRS Stock $210

Total - $1380

Where does the other $1619 come into play? Does that go to George Soros's piggy bank?

 

[Jhnmdahl]

Good eye Ashih. Seems almost like you could build one cheaper than the list price, and be able to customize your grip and stock to boot. Not a bad idea for a basic chassis for a Remington 700, all things considered.

 

[ashiha]

I don't understand why it's $2900? It's a Remington in an MDT chassis? I highly doubt the action is even close to a custom action or a trued remington action and the barrel is a remington, not a Bartlein, Shilen, Rock etc... I mean adjust my numbers if I am wrong:

Action only $450
Barrel $350
Truing Job $250
X Mark trigger $30
AAC Brake $90
PRS Stock $210

Total - $1380

Where does the other $1619 come into play? Does that go to George Soros's piggy bank?

You forgot barrel installation and the chassis, but I definitely agree.

 

[Rhyno]

That's why I said nothing special haha.

Its nice to see them speed up the twist, 24" barrel, Yea those are nice now bring the cost down.

I think this may be Remingtons answer to the savage BAS, it'll be interesting to hear more as shot show rolls around.

If it's been blueprints at the factory, and the barrel is better then the regular Remington, it could be interesting.

 

[RHunter]

If that $2900 is list I would think $2400 would be off the shelf.

My 30-06 build:

Ashbury Precision Ordnance Mod 1 $2300
Barrel $300
Stiller Action $950
Timney Trigger $125
Recoil lug $50
Mag $100
Machine work $450
Cerakote $200
AAC Brake $100

Total $4575

So, that price is not "that bad" if it is a decent shooter and has a decent barrel compared to the standard Remington tube.

 

[malsa82]

They put the Remington logo on the side of a TAC21 chassis. That's about it besides the faster barrel twist... I was planning on putting an SPS Tactical in one of these chassis and when pricing it out, I came up with about $2400 and that was WITH a $600-$800 optic!

 

[lawofsavage]

I was going to say they missed a big opportunity to do something people would actually want like put something similar to the MSR (Remington Defense out there with a nice chassis like the cadex and neat features like the quick change barrel but I have no confidence that they could do it at a higher quality level and lower cost than an individual just buying a 700 action action putting and setting it up to be a switch barrel.

Wasn't trying to be overly negative, just don't understand this decision because you can buy the same chassis and all the parts you want at a significantly lower cost.

I guess I do understand it because p there is such a limited selection of factory precision rifles aimed at the tactical market that this thing will probably be very profitable even though most on here probably wouldn't buy it.

 

[QuarterBore Loader]

I don't understand why it's $2900? It's a Remington in an MDT chassis? I highly doubt the action is even close to a custom action or a trued remington action and the barrel is a remington, not a Bartlein, Shilen, Rock etc... I mean adjust my numbers if I am wrong:

Action only $450
Barrel $350
Truing Job $250
X Mark trigger $30
AAC Brake $90
PRS Stock $210

Total - $1380

Where does the other $1619 come into play? Does that go to George Soros's piggy bank?

Did I read that wrong or did it also include a NF NXS 3.5x15x50 and a AAC 726-SDN-6? If so that is a steal...

 

[Ultraman550]

Thats the package deal some lucky asshole is going to win at Shot Show. Otherwise its just the rifle, brake and stock.

 

[Randoman5]

"with an MSRP starting at just $2,900. You could pay several times that for a rifle in this category"

I would expect to pay 10 thousand dollars for a Remington 700 in a chassis? The only thing I can even think of that costs "several" times what this goes for is an AI PSR.

In any case I don't think anyone who knew what they were doing would buy that. Unless you count the US Military.

 

[ashiha]

If that $2900 is list I would think $2400 would be off the shelf.

My 30-06 build:

Ashbury Precision Ordnance Mod 1 $2300
Barrel $300
Stiller Action $950
Timney Trigger $125
Recoil lug $50
Mag $100
Machine work $450
Cerakote $200
AAC Brake $100

Total $4575

So, that price is not "that bad" if it is a decent shooter and has a decent barrel compared to the standard Remington tube.

The issue is that the very same parts that are provided in the gun can be purchased for less.

The 338 caliber would be the closest to being cost-effective due to the lack of a selection in R700s in 338LM.
An R700P MLR in 338 can be had right now on gunbroker for $1650 which has the same action, 1-10" twist, 24" barrel, and trigger.
The chassis system can be purchased directly from MDT for $782.99 for the LA model.
AAC brake on their site is $150.
The Magpul PRS can be found here for $195.56: Grips/Pads/Stocks - Stock - Wise Tactical

Totaling $2778.55

If you don't get it in 338LM, you can take $1093 off that price tag ($650 for an AAC-SD and $93 less for short action chassis). Slightly more if 300Win because of no AAC-SD pre-threaded version.

Now even if it were worth the $2900, it would be a package deal where you don't really get a deal. I personally would rather hand pick each part to my liking.

Although I like that Remington is making an effort to reach out to the civilian customers that are looking for a tactical rifle, I would prefer they bring something along the lines of the MSR to the table instead.

 

[ashiha]

"with an MSRP starting at just $2,900. You could pay several times that for a rifle in this category"

I would expect to pay 10 thousand dollars for a Remington 700 in a chassis? The only thing I can even think of that costs "several" times what this goes for is an AI PSR.

In any case I don't think anyone who knew what they were doing would buy that. Unless you count the US Military.

Military awarded Remington with a contract for the MSR didn't they?

 

[Rhyno]

I would wager, the average guy who's looking for a tacticool rifle will eat this up. Remington already does this with the R700 Long Range in a Bell and Carlson stock and people eat those up.

To the average Joe, who walks into a shop and sees this thing, oh Yea here's my 3k.

 

[colscar]

nice rifle i like it but how would this compare to a gap rifle since the msrp is almost the same ... you think it would be more for the tactical shooter but then again the gap has proven itself to be a great weapon system.

 

[Ultraman550]

It would be like comparing a Ferrari to a Geo Metro with a Ferrari body kit.

 

[ashiha]

It would be like comparing a Ferrari to a Geo Metro with a Ferrari body kit.

If it can shoot better than 1/3 MOA then it would be more like a Geo Metro with a 454 big block and a Ferrari body kit.

 

[E. Bryant]

If it can shoot better than 1/3 MOA then it would be more like a Geo Metro with a 454 big block and a Ferrari body kit.

Do you really think that dropping a $700 SPS Tactical AAC rifle into a chassis will suddenly turn it into a rifle capable of consistent 1/3 MOA groups? While I don't doubt that it'll occasionally land three shots within ~0.3" of each other, I really don't think it'll do that day-in-day-out with any sort of regularity. It's easy to figure this out by parsing the author's words:

My best three shot group so far is 1/3 MOA at one hundred yards...

 

[DropinLead]

Actually, it looks like the rifle might just be a regular R700 action in this chassis:
MDT TAC21 and LSS Tactical Chassis Systems

In which case...meh.

Exactly... I saw that at the top and said, that's not new, that been out for a while if that is true that it is just a rebadge, reports I read are that it looks a lot better than it shoots. Bordered on awful. Looks to me to be a rebadge of an existing product though.

 

[Rhyno]

Exactly... I saw that at the top and said, that's not new, that been out for a while if that is true that it is just a rebadge, reports I read are that it looks a lot better than it shoots. Bordered on awful. Looks to me to be a rebadge of an existing product though.

The systems are not new, being sold together is.

 

[DropinLead]

Ahhh ok thanks, makes sense. I call BS on the 1/3 MOA though.

 

[ashiha]

Ahhh ok thanks, makes sense. I call BS on the 1/3 MOA though.

Probably true or he just got lucky. All he mentioned was that his "best" was 1/3 which if you fire enough rounds, you can do with a 9mm@100, but that doesn't mean much.

Also, since it has so much metal on top before the rail, it would surely increase the height over bore as well which I'm not a fan of either.

Really was hopeful for the civilian version of the MSR, but this definitely isn't it.

 

[smschulz]

I think I'll stick with my 5R tucked in an AICS thank you.