Rifle Scopes New Steiner T5Xi Tactical Rifle Scopes

#701
Im eagerly awaiting the release of this scope; about the CA... I looked through a Steiner 5x25x56 that a sponsored (by Steiner) competitor at a PRS match I attended and I didn't notice any CA. The image was slightly blurry toward the very edges of the sight picture but was otherwise fine. I like the SCR reticle because it places the .1 mil graduations closer to the center of the reticle where the sight picture will be the best.

I'm no optical expert but that was my experience with Steiner, it looked like most of the guys there had Steiners.

For those of you with a lot of experience with their line of scopes: how is the eyebox? Are there any changes that were made to the T5Xi other than the improved turrets, and new reticle?
 
#703
The turrets are lower, the double turn indicator is new, the power ring level is visible from prone, the ocular adjustment is locking, shorter, lighter, price, cut for tenebraex scope caps which will be included, USA-made, German glass, etc, etc. All I can think of right now off the top of my head... Hope this helps.

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#704
Quickdraw40 said:
The turrets are lower, the double turn indicator is new, the power ring level is visible from prone, the ocular adjustment is locking, shorter, lighter, price, cut for tenebraex scope caps which will be included, USA-made, German glass, etc, etc. All I can think of right now off the top of my head... Hope this helps.

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I have owned a lot of optics in the 15-25x power range. IOR, SWFA, Vortex, Weaver, Trijicon, Lupey, USO, SnB, Premier, Khales, Bla and bla bla…. List goes on.

My Steiner's are as good as the come. The 16x FF, Mil, Mil dot is about the best value anyone could get right now. The glass on all my Steiners 25x scopes has been great even stacked next to my SnB and Permier. So I have high hopes for this next offering, wondering how they are going to do considering the supposed value price? Will they really sell for that price? Lot's of questions to be ratified.
 
#705
Sako man said:
I have owned a lot of optics in the 15-25x power range. IOR, SWFA, Vortex, Weaver, Trijicon, Lupey, USO, SnB, Premier, Khales, Bla and bla bla…. List goes on.

My Steiner's are as good as the come. The 16x FF, Mil, Mil dot is about the best value anyone could get right now. The glass on all my Steiners 25x scopes has been great even stacked next to my SnB and Permier. So I have high hopes for this next offering, wondering how they are going to do considering the supposed value price? Will they really sell for that price? Lot's of questions to be ratified.
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If they do sell for the price suggested, this scope will be a no brainer for anyone wanting to shoot at comps and be competitive with other peoples gear without spending too much money.

I like the reticle, the turrets, and if the eyebox is very forgiving like quickdraw says, it's definitely the scope for me.
 
#707
Quickdraw thanks for keeping us informed Im super excited for these scopes!
Quickdraw40 said:
The turrets are lower, the double turn indicator is new, the power ring level is visible from prone, the ocular adjustment is locking, shorter, lighter, price, cut for tenebraex scope caps which will be included, USA-made, German glass, etc, etc. All I can think of right now off the top of my head... Hope this helps.

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#708
If the glass is like the older 5-25x56 models then CA shouldn't be an issue. The ones I own or have owned all are/were great optics. The only thing I would personally like but is not a deal breaker by any means is a floating center dot that subtends to 0.05mil. Just something about that dot that helps me focus quicker and maybe it's mental but I don't find my self trying to steady the gun as much to keep the reticel still while in an odd position.

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#715
I went to the quick link for europtic and got the old price to be determined information ! , to be determined by who ?
Quickdraw40 you seem to have more information than most , please let us know Steiners pricing as soon as you find out yourself .
Thanks !
 
#723
Randoman5 said:
Ummmm..... I'm not sure how I missed this.

Seems like there must be a catch. How could they provide that much scope for less than a Gen I Razor?

Whatever it costs that elevation turret is genius.
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The gist I got was they are avoiding a bunch of costs associated with producing the scopes in Europe by bringing them over here.

They may also have a lower markup than Vortex. They make less money per scope, but it could still be in line with how much they are making on the MSRs, and they are hoping to out sell Vortex.
 
#725
BangBangBlatBlat said:
The gist I got was they are avoiding a bunch of costs associated with producing the scopes in Europe by bringing them over here.

They may also have a lower markup than Vortex. They make less money per scope, but it could still be in line with how much they are making on the MSRs, and they are hoping to out sell Vortex.
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They even have the exact same warranty terms as Vortex. It looks like these guys are trying to jump into the market in a major way.

snipe10 said:
aw fuck, whenever I see this thread jump to the top of the list I'm hoping someone is saying "they're here"!
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Sorry to get your hopes up.
 
#728
Whats the total elevation of this model? 12 mil double turn sounds like 24 mils to me, but maybe there is a little extra. Wanting to mount it in a 13 mil Spuhr and want to ensure I'll be able to zero it @ 100.
 
#734
I will wait for the MSR reticle and reviews of the scope when they come out before I purchase.

I'm currently using the Vortex Razor HD Gen II 4.5-27X56 with EBR-2C (MRAD) which I am very pleased with so far.

However I am very interested in the Steiner T5Xi 5-25X56 in MSR if the version with the SCR gets favorable reviews.
 
#735
You have 100 MOA available in the scope, so if you don't have enough of a canted base, this is advantageous. The internal adjustment of the scope allows for this, but just like every other double turn turret on the market, the available adjustment is limited by the DT turret. sorry, this seems hard for me to explain... It is the same as the windage turret, since it is only half turn, 6 MILs is available, although you know is is actually a lot more in the scope.

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#744
yercowboy said:
So what is it,,,, 24 MIL'S IN THE SCOPE OR 100 moa? It is a little light there but I do love the reticle!! Great job Steiner!
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I explained this above.

People are either going to complain it's a 12 MIL turret and only 24 is available in the double turn or its a 15 MIL turret and and complain the graduations are too close, it's a rock and a hard place..... .

24 MILs gets me a little ways out there if we are being realistic.

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liv4spd said:
Advantage to me?

Familiarity, and general satisfaction with the MSR. Not to suggest the SCR is any more or less functional - just comes down to preference.
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I understand that and it's the only reason I can't argue. But given a chance, I think most will see the advantages of the 0.2 windage graduations. I think most complaints about the MSR was/is the thickness and we took care of that also.

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#748
Quickdraw40 said:
I understand that and it's the only reason I can't argue. But given a chance, I think most will see the advantages of the 0.2 windage graduations. I think most complaints about the MSR was/is the thickness and we took care of that also.

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That IMHO is a GREAT feature to the new reticle. Having played with it a bit at SHC and after figuring out the subtensions, that reticle is slick and uncluttered, yet allows very fine wind holds. Yeah it'll take a little time behind it to break old habbits of holds based on .5 and 1 Mil marks, but in the long run I think it's an advantage.
 
#749
Quickdraw40 said:
Again, I ask what is the advantage anyone sees in the MSR over the new SCR?

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Well, you asked so here's my opinion...

The SCR reticle is too thin.

I want to be able to see my reticle in adverse lighting conditions. I want a usable FFP reticle even on low mag in low/ difficult lighting conditions... even in wooded environments with dark backgrounds. Furthermore... I won't buy an optic that doesn't have illum, but I also am looking for a reticle that is thick enough to see without illum if I have a dead battery.

The heavy horizontal and vertical stadia lines that continue to the edge in the MSR make it a better reticle for use in adverse lighting conditions at low mag in FFP.

I also like the 1 meter and 1/2 meter quick ranging feature of the MSR and would choose this feature over a reticle that didn't have it.

I will not buy the new Steiner T5Xi with the SCR reticle. But if the MSR reticle is an option, the Steiner is at the top of the list.
 
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Quickdraw40 said:
Again, I ask what is the advantage anyone sees in the MSR over the new SCR?

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What I replied with a month ago when you asked the question: http://www.snipershide.com/shooting...5xi-tactical-rifle-scopes-11.html#post3251891
Redmanss said:
Because I don't want that much detail on the primary reticle in a 15x scope that will be used on a rimfire that will see both target and small game hunting use. On a 20-25x it's a different story for me as I already use a H2CMR, but I'm on the list for two 3-15x models.
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Not everyone are intending on shooting comps with these.
 
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