New to rim fire, couple questions

[Sniperwannabee]

So I got a cz on the way and I’m shopping for a cheap optic less than 500 with mil discount,I noticed a lot of you guys are running high power / 34mm tube scopes, why such high power is it because 22 are so small?, what are you guys zeroing your rifles at? Thanks

 

[egd]

Most are shooting nrl/prs matches and at ranges up to 3-400 yards. I believe 50 yds is the most common zero. The 34mm tube with a big objective glass lets in the most light and gives the most room for adjustment which you need for those long ranges.

 

[Matt_3479]

95% of the match’s I shoot are between 25-350 yards with 1 or two at 400-425 yards. The 34 mil tubes generally have more internal adjustment which can be needed sometimes. standard 0 is 50 yards

 

[Simonsza1]

I run an Athlon Argos gen 2 on mine and it’s been fantastic. Wife’s has an Arken sh4 gen2 both 6-24. These have both worked great and come in under your budget. 50yd zero seems to be the norm.

 

[SourMash]

I don’t know what you want to get out of your rifle. Buy as much scope as you can unless you’re shooting against you buddies and you all want to have small scopes. <— That’s actually quite fun. In the real world bigger is better, get as much as you can afford and learn what that rifle likes to eat.

 

[Sniperwannabee]

I run an Athlon Argos gen 2 on mine and it’s been fantastic. Wife’s has an Arken sh4 gen2 both 6-24. These have both worked great and come in under your budget. 50yd zero seems to be the norm.

Thank you very much..what mounts or rings are you using

 

[Simonsza1]

Leupold 1 piece 20moa on the Athlon and the arken 1 piece 20moa on the arken.

 

[Sniperwannabee]

Leupold 1 piece 20moa on the Athlon and the arken 1 piece 20moa on the arken.

They have 30%off today for the Arken.,sold! 325 shipped !

 

[Simonsza1]

It’s a great scope for the money. You’ll enjoy it.

 

[NewsShooter]

95% of the match’s I shoot are between 25-350 yards with 1 or two at 400-425 yards. The 34 mil tubes generally have more internal adjustment which can be needed sometimes. standard 0 is 50 yards

Yep, shot a match yesterday, 15 inch diamond plate at 385 yards. 20 mils of elevation, was able to dial all of it and 4 mils of wind. Surprised to hit it two out of three times.

 

[Matt_3479]

Yep, shot a match yesterday, 15 inch diamond plate at 385 yards. 20 mils of elevation, was able to dial all of it and 4 mils of wind. Surprised to hit it two out of three times.

Good shooting! My match yesterday’s furthest target was 300 on the dot, previous was 356

 

[MarkCZ]

Thank you very much..what mounts or rings are you using

I use 20 MOA rail and Burris XTR Signature rings ( these rings give you up to 40 moa of adjustment )on all of my long range 22 lr. I would give the Arken a try. A friend has one and loves it.

 

[KnowNothing256]

I love the ARC M10 or MBRACE rings, torque specs match my action screws so I only need to carry one preset torque wrench and they don’t cant the scope when you tighten them down, saves that headache too.

 

[300zx_tt]

Leupold 1 piece 20moa on the Athlon.

I run this combo on my MTR. I have Ares ETR, it is pretty solid glass for a .22 and you can find them used on the px for a couple hundred bucks more than your budget.

 

[adubeau]

I have the Arken SH 4 Gen II 5-25x50 MIL with Arken rings with Area419 20 MOA base - Highly recommended, it screws from the side instead of the top of the receiver..

 

[Peahi2]

They have 30%off today for the Arken.,sold! 325 shipped !

I finally mounted my Arken EP5 5-25X56 and have been shooting it the last couple of days. Not bad...burly and seems well built. I need to shoot it more....so far no complaints. I wouldn't mind trying one of their 4-16x's.

I know you already got your scope, but others up your alley are in the Athlon and Vortex neighborhoods.

I zero at 50y but shoot at 100y mostly. I like the extra power so I can see the holes in the target and not lug a spotting scope. But If I was shooting positional, like in appleseed, I need much less power and use a lighter scope.

 

[mikeshaw2]

So I got a cz on the way and I’m shopping for a cheap optic less than 500 with mil discount,I noticed a lot of you guys are running high power / 34mm tube scopes, why such high power is it because 22 are so small?, what are you guys zeroing your rifles at? Thanks

Your rifle probably doesn't come with a pic rail. CZ USA, Area 419, and Triggers by Scar should have 25-50MOA rails for you. CZ USA has 10rd plastic mags on sale. I know my rifle only came with 1 rd mag.

I'm running a Vortex Venom on my CZ. It's nice having the 25x zoom, but I find myself using 12-15x most often

I'm a n00b too and found out this stuff the hard way.

HTH

M

 

[KnowNothing256]

Most are running up into that 20-25x range at least in part because it can be nice to have that level of zoom for long ranges and tiny splashes, but also because operating at max zoom typically results in inferior sight picture, so the very useful ranges of 10-18x are in the middle range of a 25x scope, and you get good visuals in the middle ranges.

 

[mikeshaw2]

Most are running up into that 20-25x range at least in part because it can be nice to have that level of zoom for long ranges and tiny splashes, but also because operating at max zoom typically results in inferior sight picture, so the very useful ranges of 10-18x are in the middle range of a 25x scope, and you get good visuals in the middle ranges.

Even at 12-15x I still play 'where'd the target go?!' on stages

I had a case of the creeping crud last nite or I'd be down in King George shooting a MARS match today.

M

 

[JG26_Irish]

You will like your Arken. I have four of them. Two SH4's in 6-24x MIL are on my 22 trainers/PRS rifles, and one EP5 5-25x MIL is on my CF precision rifle. I zero the 22's at 50y and can dial for bullet drop out past 400y range. Can see hits at 300y. All of these are priced under $500 ea. For the money they are hard to beat. The SH4 is HD glass and the EP5 is ED glass but I cannot tell much difference other than the color shift on the SH4's is more noticeable and is not detectable on the EP5. Both have great clarity and great turrets. The SH4 in 4-16x is sitting in my home awaiting a rifle worthy of its ability. Low ambient light conditions are where these scopes shine. The clarity is stellar and the ability to quickly dial up and down for range variation is so good that I do not hesitate to do that anytime it is needed. The return to zero stop is right on every time.

My only complaints were the lighted reticle on the SH4 was too dim for daylight use in my first one. They fixed that with the new gen EP5. I have two newer SH4's that have yet to get the batteries installed to see on them. The other complaint is that when dialed all the way down to the lowest power setting, the center of the reticle is hard to see, even with the lighted piper in the middle. That is a very minor issue.

I have not found a better scope priced under $1000 to date. Mostly the scopes that compete with it for clarity and quality are priced over $2000. Examples are NF, Razor, and Kahles 624. Those will all out do the Arken but at more than 4x the price. Zero compromise is another but again it is a top tier very pricey optic.