Suppressors New to suppressors

Gerald McDonnell

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I am new to this type of shooting.
I know this isn't the movies. So what db's can I expect?
I would like to get a good one. What should I look for?
I will be shooting a 22-250 pushing between 3700-4000 fps.
Where should I start?

Thanks for the help
 
I am in the same course as you. I think your in the right spot to get answers. Just received my papers and mailing for my stamp this week. I went with THUNDERBEAST, stopped in at the factory and had a good talk with the people there. I went with the 30ps. {Titanium 30cal.} It would be a vesital can for my 22-250AI and be available to all my rifles thur 30cal. they said because the 22-250 is a larger case, {308} using the 30 cal can would help dampen the noise even more. I am by no means any where near expert on this topic, just relaying my personal experience. Good hunting.
 
Call a couple of the silencer makers. They can give you some advice on what to buy. Call more than one so you will not sold once you hang up the phone.
 
Gerald,

If you can go out and listen to some different suppressors, it would be very helpful. Keep noting how close object like trees, buildings, etc are from you because they can bounce a ton of noise back at you from the ballistic crack. Shooting in the middle of a flat section of land at a coyote with no hills, trees or buildings for miles sounds very different than shooting into a small meadow with a solid treeline 80 yards away. That treeline can bounce a lot of noise back at you.

What state are you in? If you are in KS close to Wichita, you could listen to some of mine.

Darin
 
Decibel reduction is great, but it would not be the most important factor for me in looking at suppressors. Generally speaking most suppressors of comparable size and weight are going to be pretty close in decibel reduction. The question is, what is it going to do to your POA/POI in going from un-suppressed to suppressed and back again and is it repeatable? Then how durable is the suppressor. I have been shooting suppressors for 15+ years, though only on precision rifles for the last 5. Hands down, I believe that SureFire makes the best suppressor on the market. There are no doubt some that might a decibel or two quieter, but for overall performance, SureFire is the ticket.
 
Being from California, suppressors are verboten for us.

Subscribing to this thread to see what people have to say.

Note to threadjack, but can you shoot suppressed .223 with no hearing protection or is hearing protection still required?
 
You can shoot .223 suppressed without ear pro however it will still have a cumulative hearing loss effect on you. It's advised that anytime you're shooting a centerfire caliber suppressed that you still wear ear pro...a good can will get the sound level below 140DB which is what OSHA has determined to be hearing unsafe. Just my .02
 
There is some good info for me to use. Now, let me show my ignorance. Lol. If hearing protection is still required to shoot suppressed, what is the actual purpose of a suppressor? A couple buddies of mine are getting suppressors and want me to as well. I'm all for it if it will serve my purpose. But if it will still scare off the coyotes I haven't shot yet, then I might as well save the money.

Thanks.
 
Even a fairly loud suppressor is significantly quieter than an unsuppressed rifle firing supersonic ammo. In the immediate vicinity it can seem loud, but move 100m in either direction and it's a world of difference. Think of it like the muffler on a motorcycle: you can easily hear it nearby, but now imagine an unmuffled Harley starting up at the same distance? It suppresses the initial blast significantly but there's also the issue of the supersonic crack, which can be heard over long distances as the shockwave from the bullet propagates through the air (ie sound). But from the point of view of the target, this is a moot point as the bullet arrives before the sound and to anyone (anything) nearby the follow on blast is muffled significantly. A suppressor also has non-sound related benefits:

- significantly reduced muzzle blast (ie no dirt kicked up in prone)
- nearly eliminates muzzle flash at night
- recoil reduction as high pressure gas pushes against the baffles in the opposite direction of recoil.



And when sound reduction is most important, subsonic ammo has a huge advantage. In the above video the first round is a 175SMK at 2550fps out of a 16" barrel (which is fairly loud). The next two are 200gr subsonic loads at 1050fps - notice the difference? Granted, the drop from the slower subsonic rounds is significant, so I missed the little pepper popper but for the third round I heldover a mil and it hit nice and solid.

Yeah yeah, I break cheekweld when cycling the action, but that's just me testing and being thorough. No reason to be all snipery tactical in this case ;)