Rifle Scopes New Tract Toric 4.5-30x56

[Covertnoob5]

Hey guys got a final prototype of the soon to be released Tarct Toric 4.5-30x56. Gonna be testing it out, and running it in a few matches hopefully.
If you’ve got any questions about the scope I’ll try to answer them to the best of my ability. Thanks!

 

[BJG56]

Any word on pricing yet?

 

[wapiti16b]

Looks Nice and Ditto on pricing info!

 

[stello1001]

Did they send you banged up, scratched up box or is that how they look lol?

Also, you got anything you can do a comparison with?

 

[mmlook]

weight and overall length?

total elevation?

 

[Flyingbullseye]

Looks like Tracts take on the Razor 2

Curious how it lines up with the Vortex and or others in the same bracket.

What does the reticle look like?

 

[hk dave]

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts @Covertnoob5

It looks a lot like a Sig Tango6 to me form wise.

 

[envy5000]

Is the reticle the same as the Toric Tract PRS style?

 

[Covertnoob5]

Any word on pricing yet?

pricing will be around $1700

 

[Covertnoob5]

Did they send you banged up, scratched up box or is that how they look lol?

Also, you got anything you can do a comparison with?

lol this is a prototype and actually the box has a 3-15 sticker on it. So I’m sure production packaging will be much better.
I’ve got my Revic which is basically a Razor 2 that I can do comparisons with.

 

[Covertnoob5]

Is the reticle the same as the Toric Tract PRS style?

reticle is yes very similar to the 4-20 tree reticle. Slight changes I’ll have to ask if I can share the diagram or not.

 

[Covertnoob5]

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts @Covertnoob5

It looks a lot like a Sig Tango6 to me form wise.

I had a tango 6 and the turrets are much better on the Toric. I sold my tango 6 within weeks of getting it because the turrets were not what I’d consider acceptable. Even though they were “within spec”

 

[bjay]

Whats length and weight?

 

[Covertnoob5]

Whats length and weight?

About 14” and 3lbs 3oz with a Spuhr and 1 rail on it

 

[bjay]

About 14” and 3lbs 3oz with a Spuhr and 1 rail on it
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Ty brother..one more thing, parallex minimum?

 

[mmlook]

Ty brother..one more thing, parallex minimum?

and maximum elevation

edit: looks like the parallax marks are just like the 4-20x50
25-infinity

 

[Covertnoob5]

Ty brother..one more thing, parallex minimum?

Yup 25-infinity

 

[Covertnoob5]

and maximum elevation

edit: looks like the parallax marks are just like the 4-20x50
25-infinity

From bottom to top I counted about 38 mils

 

[bjay]

So this thing is heavier than razor gen2 4.5-27x56?

 

[Covertnoob5]

So this thing is heavier than razor gen2 4.5-27x56?

no? That’s 3lbs WITH a spuhr. Razor 2 is 3lbs with no rings.

 

[mmlook]

From bottom to top I counted about 38 mils

Looks like i’ll be buying 2 when this comes out.

thing has more elevation than a ZCO

Have 2 of the 30mm version, and won’t ever sell them

 

[Covertnoob5]

Looks like i’ll be buying 2 when this comes out.

thing has more elevation than a ZCO

Have 2 of the 30mm version, and won’t ever sell them

honestly if you need that much elevation you’re probably better off with a Charlie tarac unit.

 

[mmlook]

honestly if you need that much elevation you’re probably better off with a Charlie tarac unit.

30-35mils is just enough to get to 3k with a 375/408/416 solid going 2900-3000fps

the tarac is awesome, but, it costs almost as much as a scope

 

[Glassaholic]

Nice that you got a prototype from Jon, great guys (the owners are both named Jon). Some questions I have is that with the Toric 4-20 the turrets had a bit of play in them, have they "fixed" that or does the 4.5-30 also have some wiggle in it? The other issue with the 4-20 was that it had fairly heavy CA so if you have a chance to test that out against your NF ATACR and ZCO I'd be curious how it does (keeping in mind the scope costs half as much as the other scopes I do expect it to not be on par optically but hoping it can hold its own for the price). Another area where the 4-20 struggled was in FOV, how does the 4.5-30 compare to other scopes you have on hand. One of the areas I thought the 4-20 did do fairly well on was DOF so hoping the DOF on the 4.5-30 holds up nicely. I'm sure most of these items will be addressed when you use it in competition as that will be the real test so looking forward to hearing your thoughts after you compete with it.

 

[ColoradoShooter]

Is it still a 30mm tube or 34mm?

 

[ColoradoShooter]

Never mind. Got my answer from the man himself Jon LaCorte. It’s indeed a 34mm tube.

 

[Covertnoob5]

Nice that you got a prototype from Jon, great guys (the owners are both named Jon). Some questions I have is that with the Toric 4-20 the turrets had a bit of play in them, have they "fixed" that or does the 4.5-30 also have some wiggle in it? The other issue with the 4-20 was that it had fairly heavy CA so if you have a chance to test that out against your NF ATACR and ZCO I'd be curious how it does (keeping in mind the scope costs half as much as the other scopes I do expect it to not be on par optically but hoping it can hold its own for the price). Another area where the 4-20 struggled was in FOV, how does the 4.5-30 compare to other scopes you have on hand. One of the areas I thought the 4-20 did do fairly well on was DOF so hoping the DOF on the 4.5-30 holds up nicely. I'm sure most of these items will be addressed when you use it in competition as that will be the real test so looking forward to hearing your thoughts after you compete with it.

I’ll do my best to address most of those questions. I’ll get out to the range tomorrow briefly. I have my Revic that glass wise should be a more fair comparison than my ZCO. I think we all know the ZCO isn’t a fair comparison.
As far as the turrets go, I’m pleasantly surprised by these. They are locking turrets so of course there will always be a small amount of play, but these are nice feeling. Much better than the tango6 I had.
I will also add the numbers and markings are some of the biggest I’ve seen so it’s very easy to read.

 

[shoot4fun]

Jon LaCorte was a good friend when I was in the industry and he was with Nikon. I know him well enough to know he will do it right.
I love the look of this optic and hope to see a great review on it. My old eyes can't go with max 20X or I would already be a customer. The Tract optics I've seen at he range look great and always belong to a happy owner.

 

[Glassaholic]

I’ll do my best to address most of those questions. I’ll get out to the range tomorrow briefly. I have my Revic that glass wise should be a more fair comparison than my ZCO. I think we all know the ZCO isn’t a fair comparison.
As far as the turrets go, I’m pleasantly surprised by these. They are locking turrets so of course there will always be a small amount of play, but these are nice feeling. Much better than the tango6 I had.
I will also add the numbers and markings are some of the biggest I’ve seen so it’s very easy to read.

Price, mag range and weight, etc. seem to put the 4.5-30 up against the Razor Gen II 4.5-27 which is an older design, the Revic is a newer design but close in specs so it would be good to hear how well the new Toric compares. I know the ZCO and ATACR are not "fair" comparisons, but forgot you had the Revic.

 

[Eoddave27]

I can’t wait to get one of these on my rifle. I’m a huge Tract fan. I have two of the 4-20’s and love them. I told Jon I would be one of the first guys in line when they released the higher mag range optic with a 34 mm tube and still plan to be.

 

[Kickin45]

True Tool less Zero stop or still need an allen?

 

[Covertnoob5]

True Tool less Zero stop or still need an allen?

Comes with the Allen. It’s an interesting clutch style system. Very easy to set tho. Same as the other Toric scope 420 model from my understanding. I had no problem setting the zero stop 1 mil below 0.

 

[vortexyz]

One of the big reasons I was looking into the 4-20 was that everyone said the eye box is amazing so I am interested to see what you think of this one, especially at the higher mag ranges. Also interested to hear about the CA issues wjm308 mentioned as the other reviews I had seen didn't mention it.

 

[AnimalMother224]

Im glad I held off getting the 4-20. this is pretty exciting..

 

[jconPNW]

This looks quite promising. It looks Tract is giving a lot for the money. Will the street price then be $1,700? Any idea where the glass is sourced from now? Still Schott? Reticle options?

 

[jconPNW]

Oh and what is the magnification ratio on it?....

 

[wldott]

Oh and what is the magnification ratio on it?....

4.5-30x56 and glass is Schott

 

[flyer]

This looks quite promising. It looks Tract is giving a lot for the money. Will the street price then be $1,700? Any idea where the glass is sourced from now? Still Schott? Reticle options?

No street price since they only do direct sales.

 

[dghboy315]

I saw a prototype at a trade show. I was super impressed with the glass. On par with much more expensive scopes. I'm definitely getting one as soon as they are available.

 

[jconPNW]

I wonder how this will compare to the Cronus. About the same price, roughly...

 

[Lazyfaire]

I am very much a Tract fan. (I have their Tshirt on right now) I havwe wondered why they have not hod a higher scope. Am wanting to jumpo to a higher quality scope and this looks like it will be the one.

Is there an expected date of sale yet?

 

[wldott]

I am very much a Tract fan. (I have their Tshirt on right now) I havwe wondered why they have not hod a higher scope. Am wanting to jumpo to a higher quality scope and this looks like it will be the one.

Is there an expected date of sale yet?

Launch is planned for Mid April.
Delivery should be around the beginning of June
Pre orders will be accepted at launch
Pricing has not been finalized

Info from Jon LaCorte

 

[stello1001]

Launch is planned for Mid April.
Delivery should be around the beginning of June
Pre orders will be accepted at launch
Pricing has not been finalized

Info from Jon LaCorte

That's if Coronavirus doesn't push anything back...

 

[wldott]

That's if Coronavirus doesn't push anything back...

That is possible but they do come from japan so it may not be as much of an issue as other products.

 

[wapiti16b]

Covertnoob5, did a spec sheet come with the scope and if so would you post it if allowed? if not what is the weight of the scope w/o rings and rail?
Please do some low light testing and post your findings / comparisons to Higher end scopes, low end also if you want but I really don't see the need!
Thanks!

 

[Covertnoob5]

Covertnoob5, did a spec sheet come with the scope and if so would you post it if allowed? if not what is the weight of the scope w/o rings and rail?
Please do some low light testing and post your findings / comparisons to Higher end scopes, low end also if you want but I really don't see the need!
Thanks!

it did not come with a spec sheet but I can ask for one. I don’t want to take it out there Spuhr right now, but that adds about 10oz probably.

 

[vortexyz]

Did they ever give you clearance to show us the reticle?

 

[wldott]

it did not come with a spec sheet but I can ask for one. I don’t want to take it out there Spuhr right now, but that adds about 10oz probably.

42oz without the sunshade but with the zero stop ring installed. So right in the ballpark of the assumption that the Spuhr weighs 10oz.

 

[wapiti16b]

Thanks!

 

[wldott]

Did they ever give you clearance to show us the reticle?

Here is the reticle