Next black rifle purchase

[Bob Shaver]

I had planned to buy an ACR until the guru's at Bushmaster decided to set the price at $3000. With that scratched off my "must-have" list I'm trying to decide what next to add to my collection.

I've already got too many AR's, AK's etc so I was hoping to get some input from ya'll on something a little different.

For some reason I've been gravitating towards Robinson Arms XCR but I don't have any trigger time on them.

http://www.robarm.com/resources/products/xcrlstd/index.aspx

Another alternative is the POF-415. I know it's another AR but after handling one I was really impressed with their quality.

http://www.pof-usa.com/p415/p4151411sx.htm

For some reason I'm also a little smitten by the Sig 556.

http://www.sigsauer.com/Products/ShowCatalogProductDetails.aspx?categoryid=35&productid=114

I'd thought about something like an Aug or Micro-tech but being a leftie I want to avoid buying a new gun then having to go out and buy a left handed bolt and then retro-fitting the stock to take AR mags. The SCAR looks interesting but at twice the price of most I'm just not sure it's twice the rifle.

I'd be curious if any of you have any trigger time with these platforms or opinions pro or con? Or should I be looking at something else?

 

[eleaf]

Re: Next black rifle purchase

DS Arms FAL

 

[Bob Shaver]

Re: Next black rifle purchase

Already got one.

 

[spooky2]

Re: Next black rifle purchase

You probably won't go wrong with the XCR, a nice choice for the price. I passed on it since they don't have it in 7.62 NATO.

I like the FN SCAR, and they carry it in 7.62, but it's a little pricey. FN's marketing department has seen fit to take advantage of the fact that the rifle was essentially designed by SOCOM operators. That, and consumer gun lust is responsible for the high roll out prices.

 

[adahlhauser]

Re: Next black rifle purchase

I recently purchased a POF-415-16-MRR-223 RECON (has the 11SX rail system which provides more real-estate for accessories). I have shot about 500 rounds through it so far with steel and brass cased ammo with no malfunctions of any kind! The only problem i had was a trigger reset issue and this was due to the fact that POF had just started assembling their own drop in trigger groups when i purchased my rifle. The customer service is excellent and all i had to do was send in the lower receiver to their shop in Arizona. I over nighted the lower receiver and asked them to cover my shipping fees and they sent a check covering my shipping cost with the lower receiver the next week! Their warranty stated on pof-usa.com is for 3 years but i asked a customer service employee of theirs about the warranty and the exact details of what the warranty covers and this is what the pof employee told me: "We say 3 year warranty but we have kept up with our warranty with other customers past the 3 year mark. We like our customers to be happy and continue using our rifles. The price of the weapon i can be considered relatively high compared to other AR styled brands but we like to think of our rifles as a tool that will last the user a lifetime. All firearms breakdown eventually and if your rifle breaks down after the 3 year warranty is up we will work with you to ensure you continue to support POF. Usually fees are included after the warranty is up but that is just to cover labor cost and parts cost. The fees cover only the costs to repair and/or replace broken parts and is priced less than directly buying brand new parts from us for the first time. If the repair is minor then we usually charge around $50 for handling/labor after the 3 year warranty is up. <span style="color: #FFFF33">We still take care of many of our customers that bought our rifles when POF first got started. Our view is 'rifles for life, customers for life'". </span>

 

[rem700man]

Re: Next black rifle purchase

POF or bust.

Hands down my favorite AR. Great CS and they are local to me anyway. Frank does a ton for the shooting community to boot.

Call Scott down at POF and he will get you squared away.

I got the 18" SPR and that thing runs like a raped ape.

 

[Shooter McGavin]

Re: Next black rifle purchase

I hope I can help. I have a Robinson XCR 5.56 and a POF 415 5.56 9SX MMR.

I will start with the Robinson XCR (priced at $1500). It is built like a tank and slightly heavier than an AR rifle. They tried to combine the best features from different rifles. The bolt and piston mechanism is similar to an AK rifle. The side charging handle is similar to FAL rifles and the ret of the rifle is close to an AR style without being an AR rifle.

I personally like the side charging handle as you can always keep the weapon up and ready to go. Not that it's that big of a deal because once you charge you AR it's ready to go. The rails are CNC milled into the the rifle and there is plenty of room to mount things if you want. You can change calibers of you existing rifle; no need to purchase a separate upper (for a cost of $549 for a conversion kit).

The bad thing about the Robinson XCR is it has a break in period of about 300 rounds. However, after that it runs great.

The POF 415 it's an AR rifle so everyone knows how it works. The piston works flawlessly, the rifle works flawlessly. It's a great looking rifle even though it's an AR rifle it just looks better than a regular AR rifle. There is nothing bad about the POF rifle at all. Well, unless you look at the price. It is expensive priced @ $1995 for a complete rifle. Also, if you wanted to be able to change out the upper so you can use another caliber it would cost $1100 to $1475 depending on the caliber you want. You get what you pay for with the POF 415.

I couldn't decide which one to get so I purchased both of them. If I could only have one it would be a hard decision. If in the future you could not get replacement parts for either rifle I would Keep the Robinson XCR. The Robinson XCR is built like a tank. The bolt is heavy duty and I believe will never break. I will keep my Stag DI AR 15 as a back up because you can get parts for it every where.

Jamie