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I currently have 2 7-35 mil-XT scopes. I was at a PRS match and there were probably more guys running the ZCOs than Nightforce, although last year it seemed like more people were all over the 7-35 scopes.I have had and ran both in a bunch of matches and currently still have my ZCO. What would you like to know?
Comparatively speaking between the 2 the ZCO is definitely better glass. Resolution, color, contrast, The image looks larger. Parallax is much more forgiving. More total elevation.I currently have 2 7-35 mil-XT scopes. I was at a PRS match and there were probably more guys running the ZCOs than Nightforce, although last year it seemed like more people were all over the 7-35 scopes.
I don’t want to be a sheep and just follow the pack but curious what makes the ZCO such a popular choice right now.
NKOTB.I currently have 2 7-35 mil-XT scopes. I was at a PRS match and there were probably more guys running the ZCOs than Nightforce, although last year it seemed like more people were all over the 7-35 scopes.
I don’t want to be a sheep and just follow the pack but curious what makes the ZCO such a popular choice right now.
Had a NF 7-35x56, sold it and bought a ZCO527...
ZCO is just better at everything, well except the zoom ratio.
I did not realize NF had a price increase, they basically are the same price now...Comparatively speaking between the 2 the ZCO is definitely better glass. Resolution, color, contrast, The image looks larger. Parallax is much more forgiving. More total elevation.
ZCO and TT are in that tier one and it kind of drops from there in terms of scopes. In addition with the NF price increase there’s not much difference between it and the ZCO now.
With that being said there are lots of NF on the used market at some very steep discounts. Not so much with the ZCO. I have owned both and currently am running the ZCO. I feel the ZCO is better than the Nightforce and with comparable pricing I would certainly buy the ZCO.I did not realize NF had a price increase, they basically are the same price now...
I was not aware of this either. Doesn’t seem like the best time to be raising prices especially in lieu of the competition. I think of Nightforce like Nike, yes they make some good shoes but you’re paying a lot for the name. Nightforce makes great scopes, but at the same price as ZCO? I also don’t see the big attraction to the 7-35 mag range, how many are using over 20x at distance and if you are you must live in some great climate for atmospherics to not mess with your image. The 7-35 has arguably the best glass that NF has put out to date, that along with great turrets and now a great reticle in the Mil-XT IMO has contributed to it being #1 last year according to PRB. Will be curious how high ZCO ranks in the next by the numbers for PRS.I did not realize NF had a price increase, they basically are the same price now...
Guys the Nightforce price hike was a while back, maybe a year ago? It certainly was not recent.
FWIW I run a 7-35 MIL-C. I really like the ATACR, but it is not a $3000+ scope as others have stated. I paid $2500-2600 for mine used, in great condition, a year or so ago, and think that is appropriately priced for what I would shell out for one new.
TS916, appreciate that, thought there was a recent hike in pricing which would have surprised me, I thought that NF was trending down a little so good to hear.Agreed. for NF in 2020 there was actually a price drop for most models.
On the ZCO topic, is anyone using the 4-20 or 5-27 in a non-PRS application? I'm sure they're more than capable but it seems like the majority of usage is in the PRS world, curious how people like them if used in hunting or other applications.
TS916, appreciate that, thought there was a recent hike in pricing which would have surprised me, I thought that NF was trending down a little so good to hear.
I don't shoot PRS but my style of shooting can be dynamic at my range with steel from 100 -1000. I also have the ZC420 on my hunting rifle currently but hunting season (elk) is still a ways out.
Im running the ZC 4x20 on a hunting rig with the mpct-1 reticle and it is an outstanding scope for that.It would be a little heavy to hump up and down mountains.Agreed. for NF in 2020 there was actually a price drop for most models.
On the ZCO topic, is anyone using the 4-20 or 5-27 in a non-PRS application? I'm sure they're more than capable but it seems like the majority of usage is in the PRS world, curious how people like them if used in hunting or other applications.
I reviewed a bunch of "alpha class" ultra short scopes last year, but have only had my personal ZC420 for a few weeks and originally had it setup on my AI but just moved it over to my long range hunting rig. I've been trying to finish a review with a March 5-42 and Schmidt 5-45 so haven't had as much time to spend on the ZCO. My current low light king is my ZP5 5-25x56 and I would expect the 56mm to draw in a bit more light than the 50mm on the ZCO but I've been quite impressed with the ZCO so far.Oh sweet! How do you like the ZCO in lowlight or hunting situations? (sorry I havent messed with it yet, but seems very nice)
Haha not sure if I like that analogy or not but it seems fair. I also don’t like the thought of the ZCO being thought of so highly compared to the other. I have owned the K525 and sold it to get the NF, didn’t like the CA and tunneling. I don’t love the reticle on NF and hate the rotating ocular as I like keeping caps on my scope.I am rolling with an ATACR on my Barrett, a K525 on my AXMC, a ZCO on my field/hunting gun, and a S&B on my SR25.
Right now I am doing the math in my head of how to go to ZCO on all of my guns.
I have always called Nightforce the Toyota of the scope world. A good and reliable product with good support, but you're not getting the best of anything and you're not getting a discount.
I felt the mil XT was the most promising reticle from NF but I think I still miss the SKMR3 and feel the ZCO option is the best combination of both. Turrets is a toss up, I liked the cap over windage on NF, actual clicks are similar both positive. I liked the rev indicator of the Kahles a lot, even though I never really used it.I didn't want to jump on the ZCO train and didn't for a long time until the recent sale came out for the free mounts. Now that I have shot them all side by side, I would say it goes ZCO -> S&B -> Kahles -> Nightforce. The Kahles vs Nightforce is debatable but Shannon Kay's reticles and the turrets on the Kahles are just plain better.
I felt the mil XT was the most promising reticle from NF but I think I still miss the SKMR3 and feel the ZCO option is the best combination of both. Turrets is a toss up, I liked the cap over windage on NF, actual clicks are similar both positive. I liked the rev indicator of the Kahles a lot, even though I never really used it.
parallax was better on the Kahles, I thought I loved the center parallax adjustment in the Kahles but I think I prefer the more traditional placement of the NF.
Again from all I am hearing the ZCO is the perfect offspring of both the NF and Kahles and kinda what I am looking for.
Somebody give me a deal on their NF 7-35! Get that ZCO
ZCO 8-40
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