I haven't seen any scores posted... was there an issue?
Any improvement on the prize table walk compared to the last 2 years?
Any improvement on the prize table walk compared to the last 2 years?
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View thread Contact supportHow do you propose setting yourself apart from your peers?Scores don't matter, shoot for the purity of the sport.
If you need scores and prize table walks, you're not a real sportsman
I’m here to win nerd, I don’t care about your sport. I just want prizes to sell on snipershide for $$$Scores don't matter, shoot for the purity of the sport.
If you need scores and prize table walks, you're not a real sportsman
2025 Nightforce - Now featuring the honor system for scores!How do you propose setting yourself apart from your peers?
I guess all sports should get rid of scores?
For feels and pride onlyHow do you propose setting yourself apart from your peers?
I guess all sports should get rid of scores?
Well, I think they need to increase the match price to $500 then.For feels and pride only
Inflation is a bitchWell, I think they need to increase the match price to $500 then.
Nah. You should go. Its a great match, and you will have fun. Every match has problems, they will get fixed. Just go to have fun.So we should just stay away from our 1st NF ELR match in 2025 then since he'd be driving 17hrs 1 way? Asking for a friend.
Prize table walks should always be based on overall shooter order. People shooting SPED divisions and other shit for points, get their points and trophies, but prizes should go to overall winners in score. And Teams placement should have a 10% penalty since they get the benefit of working together and "coaching" on the clock. For example a single shooter gets 105 and Team gets 200, divide that by 2 then take away 10% so each guy is 90 points for table walk. A single shooter who finishes with half the score of a team, should always get an earlier walk. They shot better with less information and help. Or there should be a completely different prize tables for Teams.If the RO shoot the same course of fire. Why not let them walk, for for 1st or 2nd place wins? Just have the order be : teams, open, hunter, women, jr, RO, Leo. Do that for 1-3, then do shooter rank from there. ( Divide team scores by 2)
Because there was 4 of them and two of them walked. That’s not right for shooting 9 or 10 stages over people who shot the whole thingIf the RO shoot the same course of fire. Why not let them walk, for for 1st or 2nd place wins? Just have the order be : teams, open, hunter, women, jr, RO, Leo. Do that for 1-3, then do shooter rank from there. ( Divide team scores by 2)
I was under the impression they shot the entire match, not half of it.Because there was 4 of them and two of them walked. That’s not right for shooting 9 or 10 stages over people who shot the whole thing
No, they only shot half of it on Saturday and there was only 4 of themI was under the impression they shot the entire match, not half of it.
ROs traditionally shoot the entire CoF on Friday. Where are you getting your information from? Even looking at the day one scores on Practiscore has a lot more than just 4 ROs.No, they only shot half of it on Saturday and there was only 4 of them
You're too scared to shoot this match anyways. So your opinion is invalid.Don't worry about people trashing your score. They don't even shoot, are too scared to compete and never seem to post their own scores.
You got out there and did the best you could and hopefully had some fun. The guy who won and the guy who came in last still respect you more than the keyboard competitors.
Yea I shot one of those easy AG cup matches instead. Better than hanging out with your bald ass and eating noodles all weekendYou're too scared to shoot this match anyways. So your opinion is invalid.
Shooting at NF like a real man.Yea I shot one of those easy AG cup matches instead. What were you doing this weekend?
I decided I'm shooting the krg next year haha but already had plans to do so but made it even clearer for me.Wow, glad I didn't make sacrifices to get to this match. Sounds like a shit show. I listened to a few podcasts with I think the MD and landowner and they sounded like nice guys, but even a few months ago didn't really seem like they knew what was going on with their match.
I'm going to be annoyed if this pushes even more traffic to the KRG match. That one I can say ran almost flawlessly this year, no smoke and mirrors bullshit.
If they shoot the whole COF, I strongly disagree... but I saw your other comment. As far as I'm aware, it's very unusual for ROs to not shoot the whole COF. You're positive they only shot part?2.) Letting the ROs walk the prize table for their match when there was only a handful of them shooting was unacceptable. I was an RO for KRG this year and Burris donated a scope that specifically was for the winner of the RO match. The winner did not get to walk the prize table. I understand that ROs volunteer their time to do this but they should not take precedent over people who have potentially thousands of dollars invested into this match. I wasn’t going to win anything, but if I was 5th in open/heavy and an RO went before me, I would be pissed.
That really sucks... one really shit RO can rain on a shooter's match (particularly a new shooter). That said, for every RO that is truly an unjustified dick, there's at least 5 dick shooters that good ROs need to be firm with. I imagine it can sometimes be difficult for an MD to distinguish between the two4.) I won’t say the stage number, but one of the ROs (everyone else was amazing) was way too high up on his horse. He actually berated my friend for shooting a factory rifle, with factory ammo, and a Leupold Mark 5 optic. It wasn’t friendly banter, he was being a dick.
NRL Hunter has to do this, because Teams have such a significant advantage. The Teams' segregated prize tables I've seen have always been pretty good, too (but that's heavily dependent on the MD)Or there should be a completely different prize tables for Teams.
It's good to talk to people who don't compete... the dumbest shit you'll ever hear about comps will always come from people who've never shot a match. It's a good baseline to see how much we've learned from when we too knew nothingYou will quickly come to realize the opinions of people who don't also compete with you don't matter.
No, the real men at NF were the two guys shooting Dasher instead of trying to hide their lack of wind calling ability behind some magical magnum cartridge.Shooting at NF like a real man.
If they shoot the whole COF, I strongly disagree... but I saw your other comment. As far as I'm aware, it's very unusual for ROs to not shoot the whole COF. You're positive they only shot part?
Also, the ROs usually have the same or greater $ invested. They're typically avid shooters. Waiving match fees helps compensate for an extra day of hotel/tranportation/etc, but not a lost day of work
You got it.I'm having to read between a bunch of lines here, but my best understanding is that they treated the ROs as their own class. So table walk went something like 1st Hunter, 1st, Heavy, 1st RO. 2nd Hunter, 2nd Heavy, 2nd RO.... etc. Which is an absolutely WILD way to do it.
I don't think anyone is actually saying the RO's shouldn't walk the table (if they shoot the same COF), it should just be in their order of placement like every other match I've ever been to.
Except for the part where he got mixed up because different classes had different numbers of trophies to present. So then the order backtracked slightly and repeated the Ladies/Juniors for two placings in a row because they got skipped over in the order while calling the extra trophies for other classes. Followed by then losing track of which names had already been called and which names were next up in the other classes.You got it.
1st heavy, light, team, lady, youth, ro, mil/leo, etc more or less.
2nd <repeat above>
And so on.
So, ultimately, for example, the 40th team (basically last place) would walk same time (roughly) as 40th overall.
They removed stages 11 and 17 from the cumulative scores in this latest update. That's the reason they look very different from the scorecards for some people and why the placings are WILDLY off from what was called out the day of.They released points. I think everyone got shorted it is what it is unfortunately I know there is like 10 points missing from my score but still had fun.
Stage 11 and 17 are missing. I’m asking the MD what the problem is but it seems to be a backend practiscore error.They released points. I think everyone got shorted it is what it is unfortunately I know there is like 10 points missing from my score but still had fun.
At this point I think they should just let it be. They already let people walk the table and gave prizes out I believe it will only make it worse showing the mistakes because I'm sure the ones who got cheated will throw a bigger fit haha things happen it sucks and frustrating I get it but this year was a off year for sure for the match. It's the second time I shot it and only the second match I've been to really so only have last year to base it off of.
Wow you must be one smooth brained person if you’re out there doing weaponized math. I am sensitive to the EMF put out by gps devices like what Litz built his kestrel radiation device on, so I do it the old fashioned way with my mildot master. The dots don’t lie, bud. I could split a playing card at 1,000 meters, all day, any day, pal.Yeah, no. I need the real scores posted so I know how bad I beat Litz every year since I started using weaponized math.