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Anyone have a screen shot of the scope? Sounds pretty interesting.
But it’s only 13.9”Who's this for? The ATACR lineup already seemed complete to me. I'm trying to think of an application where this would fit but the 5-25 wouldn't also do the same job.
With parallax stated to go down to 11 yards, I think this might go nice on someone’s precision rimfire. A good amount of elevation adjustment too.Who's this for? The ATACR lineup already seemed complete to me. I'm trying to think of an application where this would fit but the 5-25 wouldn't also do the same job.
The FOV at 20x looks good but that 4x specs is not, perhaps it's a mistake or maybe it tunnels at low mag.Says FOV is 23.6ft at 4x
I'm guessing it tunnels like the 7-35The FOV at 20x looks good but that 4x specs is not, perhaps it's a mistake or maybe it tunnels at low mag.
I am aware. Still waiting for someone to sell me their gently used ZCO420. I can't seem to shake any loose though....
Yeah most unfortunate.
On one hand it was clearly a copy, on the other the ZL turret is excellent and it'd be nice to see it attached to some good scopes.....Leupold sued Nightforce for patent infringement for the Zero Hold and won.
In what regard? Other than potential tunneling and arguably overpriced this is more or less what one would expect from another ATACR model as far as price, size, features and weight goes.Swing and a miss.
Shame, I love nightforce scopes.
In what regard? Other than potential tunneling and arguably overpriced this is more or less what one would expect from another ATACR model as far as price, size, features and weight goes.
Looking at other products in that category I don’t see why many would choose it when the compact and lightweight segment of that category go to is the 5-20 ultra short and the optics performance go to is the zco 4-20. Both which are priced similar.In what regard? Other than potential tunneling and arguably overpriced this is more or less what one would expect from another ATACR model as far as price, size, features and weight goes.
The only thing I can come up with that makes sense to me because I know nightforce isn't this out of touch with the market is that they made this for a mil contract.
Its on their website go check it out has everything you want to knowHave anyone heard about this new scope from NF for 2021? Just saw Instagram post and it was removed immediately.
Looking at other products in that category I don’t see why many would choose it when the compact and lightweight segment of that category go to is the 5-20 ultra short and the optics performance go to is the zco 4-20. Both which are priced similar.
A Kahles 5-25 is lighter and only slightly longer also.
For it to be positioned well in the market I would have said it needed to be same size and weight as the 4-16x50 or very close.
I really like nightforce scopes but this has me scratching my head a little.
I don't think the issue is it's too big and heavy, as the NX8 is their answer to your question.
The real problem is this is priced with the ZCO and SBs.
I'd argue that if it were smaller lighter and cheaper it wouldn't compete with the big boys but then it'd compete with their own NX8s and 4-16 ATACR.
I think the problem is the NX8 was a bit over ambitious and the 2.5-20 especially seems to have been a little bit of a flop, and the ATACR series has gotten too close in price to the best of the best.
In reality I'm sure this will sell well anyway as the NF fanboyism is very strong.
The market it still open for a nice mid magnification, lightish weight, medium priced crossover scope. Maybe the illuminated XTR3 will fill that void, or Vortex has something up their sleeve.
My damn neck needs like one mo inch.Ahh the k318. Awesome scope. Better than my 4-16 ATACR and I’m a NF fan
Maybe it’s overpriced or maybe it’s priced up there because it is there. I guess we shall see. I kinda doubt it but who knows. $600 bucks is $600 bucks though. I think the length is attractive as, and I’ve seen others say as well, that the ultra shorts can be too short. I felt that way about the K318i in my personal experience. 13.9” is pretty friggin short all things considered. I’m just a fanboy of the 4-16 so naturally my hopes are high.
P.S. the MilR reticle is a decent mil reticle.
The market it still open for a nice mid magnification, lightish weight, medium priced crossover scope. Maybe the illuminated XTR3 will fill that void, or Vortex has something up their sleeve.
Apparently you haven’t looked through one. Very finicky Eyebox and parallax, significant edge distortion, mushy turrets. What I did like - center resolution was impressive, reticles and illumination. I agree, it is a “neat” scope, but it just does not compete with other scopes at its price point and even less for the above mentioned parameters.What was a flop about the 2.5-20 nx8? Glass wasn't perfect, but it's a pretty neat scope.
I don’t think NF gives a rip about this thread but I may be wrong. I think of Nightforce like Nike, they have a great brand name that sells most of their products and they have some decent products but there is stiff competition that offers more bang for the buck as it were.Maybe they’ve done some work to put the image quality on par with the ZC or some other subjective attributes we’re not seeing in the specs. Maybe that’s too optimistic.
I’m imagining the NF engineering and marketing teams pulling their hair out reading this thread... unless this design was driven by a MIL contract
38 mils of elevation
Parallax down to 11 yards
I think NF might be going after the exploding 22 market with this optic.
I kinda wonder how some of you value optics. 2 oz.? 1 inch?
I have a 4-16 on order and just contacted NF to see if I can modify the order for one of these instead. I could GAF if it's the latest/greatest.
All the other shit aside, it has 130 minutes of elevation compared to 89 minutes for the 4-16 --that's HUGE and for me, is one of the main attributes I'm looking for in a scope. That and the fact it has a 50mm OBJ is probably where you weight comes from, and if that's all it added then maybe they did work some magic here.
It's not advertised with Zero Hold but it does come with Zero Stop. I know they ain't the same thing but it's not featureless.
In fact, I think it has the most useable elevation of any of them? Certainly more than 4-16, 7-35 and I think it's like 10MOA more than the 5-25 too.
So they weight is 32oz? Cause their site says 35.2oz while the 5-25 is 37.6oz.Well, I had to go back on that, keeping my order.
Turns out the ZeroHold, slightly greater FOV, 1" less length and 5oz. less weight (it's 5oz. lighter, not 2oz.) is worth more than 4x mag and 41 minutes of elevation if it's going on a 20" 7.62 with a max range of 1000m.
That is essentially what I predicted, the ATACR's are heavy scopes and while there is certainly application for this, the fact that FOV is even worse at the low end baffles me (unless they did this to eliminate edge distortion). Looks like the ZCO will continue its reign as the top ultra short out there simply for FOV alone; however, similar to other ATACR designs while FOV is poor at the low end it appears to pick up by the top end, question is how quickly does this occur throughout the mag range. Sounds like a side by side with the ZCO is in order, who's going to take on this challenge?So they weight is 32oz? Cause their site says 35.2oz while the 5-25 is 37.6oz.
ATACR – 4-20×50 F1 - Nightforce Optics
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I put in a call to my dealer to try and get one, haven't heard back yet, but I still want to compare them because I love my 4-16x42s.That is essentially what I predicted, the ATACR's are heavy scopes and while there is certainly application for this, the fact that FOV is even worse at the low end baffles me (unless they did this to eliminate edge distortion). Looks like the ZCO will continue its reign as the top ultra short out there simply for FOV alone; however, similar to other ATACR designs while FOV is poor at the low end it appears to pick up by the top end, question is how quickly does this occur throughout the mag range. Sounds like a side by side with the ZCO is in order, who's going to take on this challenge?
The 4-16 ATACR with the locking turret is my favorite scope of all time. As much of a pain their clutch system is on that locking turret, being able to go 2 full mils under is a feature I wish I had in my PM2I kinda wonder how some of you value optics. 2 oz.? 1 inch?
I have a 4-16 on order and just contacted NF to see if I can modify the order for one of these instead. I could GAF if it's the latest/greatest.
All the other shit aside, it has 130 minutes of elevation compared to 89 minutes for the 4-16 --that's HUGE and for me, is one of the main attributes I'm looking for in a scope. That and the fact it has a 50mm OBJ is probably where you weight comes from, and if that's all it added then maybe they did work some magic here.
It's not advertised with Zero Hold but it does come with Zero Stop. I know they ain't the same thing but it's not featureless.
In fact, I think it has the most useable elevation of any of them? Certainly more than 4-16, 7-35 and I think it's like 10MOA more than the 5-25 too.