The max distance I will be shooting with mine is 400 yards on level ground. So many would say a 20x magnification is not "necessary"...and I doubt I will need to touch the turrets for elevation at that distance.
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Rifle Scopes Nightforce NX8 2.5-20 - First Look
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The max distance I will be shooting with mine is 400 yards on level ground. So many would say a 20x magnification is not "necessary"...and I doubt I will need to touch the turrets for elevation at that distance.
Almost the only time I use much over 15x is when shooting dots at 100yds (or under). 
Or if specially wanting to see the mirage ... might need to crank up ...
I'm usually shooting under 800 meters on hilly ground, so yes, except for dots ... 10x to 16x is plenty.
Or if specially wanting to see the mirage ... might need to crank up ...
I'm usually shooting under 800 meters on hilly ground, so yes, except for dots ... 10x to 16x is plenty.
Almost the only time I use much over 15x is when shooting dots at 100yds (or under).
Or if specially wanting to see the mirage ... might need to crank up ...
I'm usually shooting under 800 meters on hilly ground, so yes, except for dots ... 10x to 16x is plenty.
I like watching the boolits as closely as possible.
Its not that they "dont need money from us normal folk", its that they refuse to build sub par scopes to enter a market they have no interest in being in. People who either shoot ELR, have a job in which durability is key, or just want to have top tier stuff, dont mind spending the money on NF, S&B, Kahles etc. Many others just cant justify the cost of glass that often exceeds the rifle its being mounted on, or just plink to shorter distances where the gains of a higher end product just arent warranted.
Many companies have just cloned designs of other manufacturers (or paid those manufacturers to produce) lower end scopes, just so they can gather that market share and ride on their name to justify it. Im sure many of us can count a handful of $600-$1000 scopes that dont perform any better than those in the $400 range, but its rare you buy a $2,000+ scope with proprietary parts and manufacturing, and say "meh, its junk", or complain its chinese made crap. Could NF churn out a Vortex PST competitor for the "normal folk"? Sure... but why? That market is saturated with scopes for "normal folk" that us "Military/LEO and Competitors" wont touch, and also the higher end market tends to bitch less about pricing, knowing you get what you pay for.
Im glad you went into the deep water with higher end stuff... it makes it VERY difficult to go back, but in the end, you appreciate what your dollar goes towards, as well as the resale value if/when you decide to change. Plenty of "old school" decade+ old high end scopes still in circulation demanding top dollar for resale.
The largest cost is likely the "ruggedness" they put into the ATACR line, combined with the mechanical aspects put into turrets and such, teamed with the fact that many of them are designed for Mil contracts and have to really be under a microscope for QC and consistency. If you look on their website, some of the torture tests they put the ATACR (and even the old NXS) line through are pretty nuts. Same goes for the Razors, Leupold MK8s, and other Mil derived designs meant to fall off cliffs and still operate without losing a zero or shattering into pieces. The BEAST is quite pricey, and really not a ton different than the 5-25 ATACR, other than its over-engineering to withstand brutal punishment.
I have multiple NF scopes. I think the most solid zero stop was the NXS line but Ive only had one problem with my 4-16 ATACR and NF resolved it. Something was not glued down??
Very solid zero stops though.
PB
Very solid zero stops though.
PB
I just sold my mk5 and waiting on the 2.5-20 to get here. I will let you know what I think.
Any update? Both of these options are high on my list at the moment. I'd love to hear what you thought.
I sold it and went back to an ATACR 4-16... Glass was crystal clear, overall a nice setup, but I didn't like the eye relief, where as the ATACR stuff is very forgiving.
Combination of 8x magnifier, 30m tube and compact design. Its wonderful for a 223 or low recoiling 308 setup shot prone or on a bench. The lower magnification stuff is great, I just thought it was a little fussy above 16x. Its honestly fine for most, but im spoiled by a fleet of ATACR glass and the cost isn't much different, so I just made all mine match. Theres nothing wrong with the scopes, they are working as designed, but its just a wide range of magnification in a compact setup, so you have to expect a couple draw backs, or everyone would just make their stuff that way instead of the more common 4 and 5x magnification.
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