Re: Nitride Barrel Treatment - what do you know
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Brandon05_88</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm not saying nitride itself will mess them up. The prep and company doing it is everything. I'm fairly positive H&M treated my barrel with my RAD brake installed. The instructions listed that the brake was shipped on the muzzle to protect it. They also listed to not treat the bolt that indexes the brake.
You can see not all of the threads were treated. The black area on the threads was where the cut in the brake was indexed to. Note the brake cross bolt is treated until the very end of the threads. It was installed. Note the condition of the brake threads. The threads in the upper left is the bolt handle threads of the bolt. They should have all looked like the bolt handle. I could have lived with them treating the brake bolt, no biggie. However, the brake would thread on a few turns then hit a wall. No go. Before melonite this brake, a thread protector and TBAC 30P-1 thread over the muzzle just fine.
They didn't follow my instructions. Either a corner was cut, they were in a hurry and/or the person doing them was inexperienced.
Fast forward to today. The cocking piece breaking. The bolt had 27 rounds of live fire and about 150 rounds of dry fire on it after melonite. I'm not a heat treat specialist, but how could this break? It must be brittle. How could it get this brittle? Was H&M in a hurry to process my lot of parts? Was the temperature not monitored correctly? Was the prep not consistent with other parts?
Sort of makes you wonder about the action doesn't it?</div></div>
I am now the owner of this rifle (the barreled action anyway). I've dry fired it probably close to 100-150 times while adjusting a new Jewel trigger and cycled the bolt as many times or more. I've put 20rounds thru the rifle verifying Brandon's load data and getting some additional chrono info for the load. The rifle shoots excellent. It shows that it's fully capable of .25moa like most all custom rifles should be. The rifle has functioned perfectly thus far.
I also have a 7wsm on a 591 action that was Melonite treated by MMI. I can without a doubt say that it is the most accurate and consitant shooting rifle I've ever had the pleasure of owning. Im not crediting the melonite treatment for the accuracy, this was clearly the work of the smith (RWS). I'm just saying the Melonite certainly didnt hinder it. Everyone knows how the 7wsm is a known barrel burner so im keeping detailed shot records to see how long this barrel holds.
All of my future build will be melonite treated. For the same price of Cerakote, why not? Even if the added barrel life is only minimal, it's still a benefit.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Brandon05_88</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm not saying nitride itself will mess them up. The prep and company doing it is everything. I'm fairly positive H&M treated my barrel with my RAD brake installed. The instructions listed that the brake was shipped on the muzzle to protect it. They also listed to not treat the bolt that indexes the brake.
You can see not all of the threads were treated. The black area on the threads was where the cut in the brake was indexed to. Note the brake cross bolt is treated until the very end of the threads. It was installed. Note the condition of the brake threads. The threads in the upper left is the bolt handle threads of the bolt. They should have all looked like the bolt handle. I could have lived with them treating the brake bolt, no biggie. However, the brake would thread on a few turns then hit a wall. No go. Before melonite this brake, a thread protector and TBAC 30P-1 thread over the muzzle just fine.
They didn't follow my instructions. Either a corner was cut, they were in a hurry and/or the person doing them was inexperienced.
Fast forward to today. The cocking piece breaking. The bolt had 27 rounds of live fire and about 150 rounds of dry fire on it after melonite. I'm not a heat treat specialist, but how could this break? It must be brittle. How could it get this brittle? Was H&M in a hurry to process my lot of parts? Was the temperature not monitored correctly? Was the prep not consistent with other parts?
Sort of makes you wonder about the action doesn't it?</div></div>
I am now the owner of this rifle (the barreled action anyway). I've dry fired it probably close to 100-150 times while adjusting a new Jewel trigger and cycled the bolt as many times or more. I've put 20rounds thru the rifle verifying Brandon's load data and getting some additional chrono info for the load. The rifle shoots excellent. It shows that it's fully capable of .25moa like most all custom rifles should be. The rifle has functioned perfectly thus far.
I also have a 7wsm on a 591 action that was Melonite treated by MMI. I can without a doubt say that it is the most accurate and consitant shooting rifle I've ever had the pleasure of owning. Im not crediting the melonite treatment for the accuracy, this was clearly the work of the smith (RWS). I'm just saying the Melonite certainly didnt hinder it. Everyone knows how the 7wsm is a known barrel burner so im keeping detailed shot records to see how long this barrel holds.
All of my future build will be melonite treated. For the same price of Cerakote, why not? Even if the added barrel life is only minimal, it's still a benefit.
