No carbs gaining weight

[toddconley]

I have been basically on a limited card diet for 3 or 4 weeks now. My running has went down to only three time a week At best since it has gotten cold. So about 15 miles weekly instead of the 25 or so I was putting on in the summer. Tore the left rotator cuff and waiting tll after mammoth to get it fixed so no cross fit either. I am gaining weight with almost no carbs. Granted I eat like a horse or a tiger I guess in my case but i always drop weight on no carbs. I am way up and need some kind of different diet to get it back down. Is it possible my body has developed a resistance to no carbs? Other ideas?
Thanks,
T

 

[Wanderlust]

Re: No carbs gaining weight

Eat less.

If you're expending less calories than you take in, you're going to gain weight. Assuming that you're not gaining muscle, eat less.

Low carb diets aren't "magic" in the sense that you can eat how ever much you want and not gain weight. You don't develop a resistance to a lack of carbohydrates, you only develop a insulin resistance if you eat way to many carbs (i.e. diabetes).

Eat less.

 

[WildHareMS]

Re: No carbs gaining weight

Well, I might be able to offer suggestions...but you need to include more information. Some basics are best...

How many times a day do you eat?

You say you eat like a horse, is that quantity per meal or eating throughout the day?

You say almost no carbs...what carbs ARE you eating, and when?


I'm new to long distance shooting, but I'm thinking I can offer some help with this one since I have been an active athlete in the past and am working on regaining that again now.

 

[toddconley]

Re: No carbs gaining weight

I eat three mostly. Some times 2 sometimes 4. But mostly three. I eat meat, eggs and dairy. A spoon ful of peanut butter every now and then for a treat and tons of fruit are all the carbs I am eating. I eat a lot of pinapple fruit cups and apples are my fruits. I am 6 ft and was down to 187 in warm weather and was pretty lean. 180-183ish would have been really lean. I am 204 today and I have no idea how I got there. It seems like it was overnight.

 

[mortman]

Re: No carbs gaining weight

Are the pineapple fruit cups in 100% juice? If they are in syrup you may have your answer...with all the corn syrup in those things that stuff is like candy.

 

[JJones75]

Re: No carbs gaining weight

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: toddconley</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I eat three mostly. Some times 2 sometimes 4. But mostly three. I eat meat, eggs and dairy. A spoon ful of peanut butter every now and then for a treat and tons of fruit are all the carbs I am eating. I eat a lot of pinapple fruit cups and apples are my fruits. I am 6 ft and was down to 187 in warm weather and was pretty lean. 180-183ish would have been really lean. I am 204 today and I have no idea how I got there. It seems like it was overnight. </div></div>

You can't say your hardly eat any carbs if your eating a "ton" of fruit because it's all full of carbs.
Their is so much more info needed here , give us a general idea of what your eating pattern looks like.
If you are eating canned fruit you are getting a shit load of carbs even if it's canned in 100% juice they often add sucrose to that to make it sweeter.
If you eat 4 meals a day try eating this macro breakdown
60g Protein , 25g Carbs and 30g fat , eat that all at the same time as a meal and only eat it when you are hungry , like stomach growling hungry.
That's gonna give you roughly 2400 cals if you are still getting hungry add a cup of steamed broccoli or cut green beans or whatever dark green veggies you want , you will be under a calorie surplus but still getting enough nutrient to prevent muscle wasting and keep your metabolisim up so you will be burning fat

 

[paulo_santos]

Re: No carbs gaining weight

Track your food using a program like LoseIt or FitDay. If you are gaining weight, it is because you are eating more calories than you are burning. That simple.

 

[TN_Warrior808]

Re: No carbs gaining weight

Eating natural fruits in moderation is a good thing. However, it should be eaten in moderation! And fruit cups are a lazy man’s item. Stick to fresh or even frozen fruits (berries). I eat a low carb diet and eat fruits because I crave ice cream a lot. However, I eat fruits before work out or right after in order to burn those natural sugars.

Also if you are looking for better snacks throughout the day think about picking up almonds or other healthy nuts (not peanuts), jerky, or veggies. Those items are better than fruits.

 

[toddconley]

Re: No carbs gaining weight

I am switching to frozen fruit like that. I think this a good idea. I love those fruit cups but I guess they have to go. I am going to check on the tracker thing. Is there somewhere on line that can give you a diet regimen to go by. I need to eat lots of volume but I need to cut what ever it is making me fat.

 

[super jim]

Re: No carbs gaining weight

+1 on almonds and jerkey for snacks. fruit cups are all sugar.
Also, I would recommend fish oil tablets (tasteless & oderless). If your body has plent of good Omega-3 fats, it will burn the bad fat. If it is not getting enough fat, it will try to save what it has. Salmon and sardines are also a good source.

 

[JJones75]

Re: No carbs gaining weight

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: typhoon186</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If your body has plent of good Omega-3 fats, it will burn the bad fat. If it is not getting enough fat, it will try to save what it has. </div></div>

Where is this idea from??

If your meals are at your maintaince calories and you eat a couple cups of almonds a day you WILL gain fat , it has nothing to do with what kind of fats their are it's about the calories that you're getting which is ALOT.

I'd wager to say that the weight gain is comming from excessive calories and slowed metabolism from not running and more
Excessive

 

[anthony_se]

Re: No carbs gaining weight

how much of the bullshit "whole grains" are you eating? If you're eating any, quit them; the shit is f'g poison. What's your beer intake? Beer is in fact just another grain, and grains are bad news bears. Fruit, whole or juiced, but especially juiced, is simply 'candy from a tree.' If you've got to eat it, then make sure you restrict it to berries, blue, black, strawberries, and an occasional apple. Whatever calorie deficit you have to make up by dropping out the "tons of fruit," make it up with good fats: avocado, uncured bacon, grass-fed steak, pork, chicken with the skin on it. The old calorie in - calorie out hypothesis is also full of shit ; so don't get sucked into it. If you're gonna run, do it in high-intensity intervals. You ever see an accomplished, fat 100 meter runner?

+1 on the fish, sardines, etc.

 

[JRose]

Re: No carbs gaining weight

Check out the "metabolic efficiency diet". My coach put me on it and it's turned my body into a fat eating machine.

 

[alnkal00]

Re: No carbs gaining weight

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: toddconley</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I eat three mostly. Some times 2 sometimes 4. But mostly three. I eat meat, eggs and dairy. A spoon ful of peanut butter every now and then for a treat and tons of fruit are all the carbs I am eating. I eat a lot of pinapple fruit cups and apples are my fruits. I am 6 ft and was down to 187 in warm weather and was pretty lean. 180-183ish would have been really lean. I am 204 today and I have no idea how I got there. It seems like it was overnight. </div></div>

You got there because of all the Sugar you are consuming.

The body does not know the difference between a Snickers Bar or "A lot of Pineapple",Bread or a Fruit Cup or a Glass or OJ or a Glass of Milk (dairy is horrible for the human body)
Sugar is Sugar is Sugar and there is even more crap then just
sugar if Fake Processed Food....Im not going to get into Gluten/Grains and the diseases it causes

Once you consume more then 30 grams of Sugar @ One Sitting your pancrease will start to produce insulin and stop burning fat. Ever get that "2:30" feeling? Its an insulin crash.
Guess where that fat you were once burning goes?
If you are an unhealthy individual more then likely you have a high LDL count that fat now sticks itself to those LDL's.
We know that LDL's embed themselves in artery walls now coulple that with the fat......get the picture?

Ever eat a shitty high sugar meal and look bloated afterwards and think is water your holding?.....Its the fat your body has stoped burning.

Consume more then 30grms of sugar at every meal adipose tissue quickly accumulates.....suddenly your fat.

Eating all that sugar/excessive calories with a sedentary lifestyle...Obeseity sets in and all the diseases that comes with it.

For god sakes Eat Some Veggies and ad in some healthy fats.
Olive oil,avocados,CoConut Oil (which is awesome)nuts & seeds.

Your eating habits are not so good.

Breakfast 6 eggs scrambled in coconut oil w/4 slices of Mavericks Bacon a little bit of Sweet Potatos to keep up Glycogen levels (stored enery in the muscles) Spinach (a lot of it) 1/2 Avocado ,small apple and some Quality Fish Oil

Still have to adhere to the 30grms of Sugar rule so you can skip the apple or cut back on the sweet potatos

You need to Replenish Glycogen loss after training and that is done by eithter eating some sweet potatos or ingesting some d-Ribose either way it should be done as soon as possible after training.

You should research Glycogen Replenishment for yourself

Also not eating veggies with all that protien or vice versa will off set your PH balance
You dont want to become too alkalytic or acidic
When performing at a high level and PH is off it dramaticly affects your performance.

And listen to what Copdoc has to say....mmmm delicious Grass Fed Meats

EAT REAL FOOD- If you cant kill it or pick it dont eat it.

Hope this helps

AL

 

[anthony_se]

Re: No carbs gaining weight

Al, + a whole bunch; excellent post!

 

[JRose]

Re: No carbs gaining weight

I'm trying to find a healthy way of fueling (not dieting), but it's hard to break norms. I refuse to give up grains and dairy completely, but I have recognized the need to cut them back. I try to limit my carbs to one hard serving per day. By that I mean, if I eat a bowl of cereal or oatmeal in the morning because I'm in a hurry, I'll try to make sure my lunch and dinner is a meat and veggie type meal. That being said, I don't like like most carbless vegetables very much, so that may consist of corn or peas, in which I know I'm getting a little carbs.

I've tried to cut way back on fruit. I snack on trail mix, or just plain almonds a lot. Maybe a tablespoon of peanut butter or a Choboni Greek yogurt.

For the most part my meals are chicken, white turkey, pork tenderloin, tuna, or lean steak and some canned vegetables. Mornings are almost always scrambled eggs or cereal. Usually eggs, 4 scrambled.

I log all my intake so it's easy to keep track of what I eat, but so-so with details of the break down.

The 30g of sugar per meal is interesting though. I'll try to maintain that.

 

[JJones75]

Re: No carbs gaining weight

You have to becarefull counting "sugar" you limit yourself to 30g sugar per meal you can have 2 cups of sweet potatoes as that's only about 25-30g sugar but around 80g total carbs.
Not all carbs are sugar and not all sugars are treated equally by the body. If you want carbs to refuel muscle glycogen then sugars are what comes to mind first but if you decide to eat fruit as your cab source then it's gonna take longer to refuel those muscle because the body converts fructose (natural fruit sugar) into glycogen to ree ish the expended liver glycogen first! This is why regular dextrose is a petter post/intra workout option.
Also eating fruit (any carb for this matter) with protein and fats will greatly reduce the insulin production by the body as the added macros slow digestion gradually releasing the carbs into the body

 

[Trevor300wsm]

Re: No carbs gaining weight

I'm in fucking pure amazement.

Do some of you not look at any of the labels on your food?? For fucks sake, you claim your on a "Low Carb" diet, yet I'm sure some of you are taking in anywhere from 75g to 250g+ of carbs a day. That's low carb to you? I'm 220lbs and eat all day long (literally around the clock) and lots of days I will consume less than 50g of carbs in 24hr period. I'll remain totally carbless for 6-12hrs post workout on alternating days.

Fruit cups? Really? Are you fucking kidding me?

Stay away from Dairy. That is one area I cut a huge amount of carbs from. If you need milk for things, use Almond milk or coconut milk. I can't tell you the last time I bought a container of real cow milk. Cheese, don't eat it unless its a cheat day.

Bread.....that whole grain shit is just that....shit. If your bread label has the word "Enriched" or "bleached" anywhere in the ingredients, then you need to find a new bread. If you are a bread junkie and just can't live without it, take a look at P28 Bread. It's a high protien/lower carb bread and it really tastes good.
https://www.highproteinbread.com/

Pay attention to JJones75 tells you.....he knows his shit.

 

[TimK]

Re: No carbs gaining weight

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JRose</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Check out the "metabolic efficiency diet". My coach put me on it and it's turned my body into a fat eating machine.

</div></div>

Got some more specific information? Googling "metabolic efficiency diet" yieds about 400,000 results.

Also, I'm curious about your age.

 

[mac37]

Re: No carbs gaining weight

Get some LINK
Ketone Urinalysis Test Strips and all your questions will be answered

Everybody is different. Some people can only have 10-20 carbs/day others 60+

Two great books by DR. Warren Willey
"Better Than Steroids" and "The Z Diet"
Easy to read and understand

 

[JRose]

Re: No carbs gaining weight

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tim K</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JRose</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Check out the "metabolic efficiency diet". My coach put me on it and it's turned my body into a fat eating machine.

</div></div>

Got some more specific information? Googling "metabolic efficiency diet" yieds about 400,000 results.

Also, I'm curious about your age. </div></div>

http://fuel4manceblog.blogspot.com/2009/06/metabolic-efficiency.html

I'm just getting started, and am self admittedly not a very good dieter. The logic
makes sense though, and in a roundabout way it tells you how to limit carbs and sugars (not totally eliminate them) in a way that conditions your body to burn fat for fuel first, instead of glycogen stores.

I'm still a student, so I encourage you to read up yourself. I haven't read the literature, I've simply been flowing the instructions of my coach. May or may not be for you, I do more cardio and less weight training than most here. The way my coach laid it out to me is that it forces your body to fuel itself more efficiently. One of the benefits are higher levels of endurance training without scarfing down gels and energy bars. This way my bike doesn't have to resemble a grocery cart during a long race.

I'm 34, training for my first full Ironman.

 

[mac37]

Re: No carbs gaining weight

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm 34, training for my first full Ironman</div></div>

Read <span style="text-decoration: underline">Better Tan Steroids</span>
It's just as, if not more important, WHEN you eat not just WHAT you eat.

 

[JRose]

Re: No carbs gaining weight

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mac37</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm 34, training for my first full Ironman</div></div>

Read <span style="text-decoration: underline">Better Tan Steroids</span>
It's just as, if not more important, WHEN you eat not just WHAT you eat. </div></div>

l'll check that out, thanks.

 

[FALex]

Re: No carbs gaining weight

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wanderlust</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Eat less.

If you're expending less calories than you take in, you're going to gain weight. Assuming that you're not gaining muscle, eat less.

Low carb diets aren't "magic" in the sense that you can eat how ever much you want and not gain weight. You don't develop a resistance to a lack of carbohydrates, you only develop a insulin resistance if you eat way to many carbs (i.e. diabetes).

Eat less. </div></div>

Hmmm...suspect...So, I entered into this "Biggest Loser" contest at a local gym here (great prizes for 1-2 places), and to prove a point. It was 8 weeks long, and we had to check-in (measurements, weight, etc) at the 4 week marker. I decided to go low-no carb for it, and not go to the gym. The uppity, know-it-all trainer taking my measurements laughed at me when I told her what I was going to do.

Fast forward to week 8. I lost 45lbs. by eating close to 4000 calories/day (all steak, burgers, ribs, chicken, etc...), didn't lift a finger the entire time, and placed 4th in the contest. Now, I didn't win any prizes, but the gentleman who placed 1st was at the gym a significant amount of time. Anyhow, that weight loss number slowed down there and then I started working out, lost another 80 and eating about the same, sometimes more, sometimes less. Now, it's just maintenance. I eat like a buffalo (kinda' look like one too!), and keep myself at 210, all the while hoarding calories...eat that Jenny Craig! HA!

 

[WildHareMS]

Re: No carbs gaining weight

LOL Damn! I'd say I'm sorry I wasn't able to get back to this thread in time, but there's been a wealth of info that has been some or all good.

I would like to note: I'm not a physician, dietician, or certified in any manner....this is from past experience as an amateur athlete/coach and current habits. Please remember if you have concerns about what I say, take them up with a professional or doctor. Also, if you read some of the info in this post then read it all.

I myself am 6'4" tall, 225 lbs. I'm not in perfect shape. I am however getting back into shape for me.

As many people have said, the "tons" of fruit is probably a good look into what help you get where you are. Now, that said.... you really should take in SOME (at least 1-2 cups) of a naturally occurring complex carb during your day if you're not even active. Really good source...sweet potatoes. 1 measured cup at lunch, another at dinner.

Drink 100 ounces of water a day!! Cut out any sodas, fruit juices, milk/dairy, Energy drinks, etc. If you drink coffee, tea, Crystal Light.... make it 20% or less of that total 100 ounces you take in in a day.

One serious thing that got you where you are is the fact you say you eat 2 to maybe 4 times a day. You really should be eating something every 2 1/2 to 3 hrs through out the day. That would equate to 5-6 meals (three major & 2-3 snacks). Be consistent with at least 5 meals! Your body will thank you. Always use fresh ingredients when possible, that way you are sure you don't have harmful additives.

Example:

Breakfast- 1 cup oatmeal, 4-5 egg whites, 1 cup of fruit (grapefruit really does it for me even though I want a banana)

AM Snack- about a 1/4 lb [cooked weight] lean meat (ie: chicken breast, very lean steak, healthy fish etc.)

Lunch- another similar portion of meat, 1 cup sweet potato, and a green vegetable or salad with greens not iceberg lettuce.

Afternoon Snack- another 1/4 lb of lean meat & 1/2 cup of fruit (not canned)

Dinner- Same as lunch but salad is not an option for this one.

PM Snack- about 2 oz lean meat & half cup of fruit (again, not canned)


Keep in mind that if you're working out, which most of us are, the meal you eat prior to the work out should have an additional serving of carbs. If you're working out to build muscle mass, don't forget to have a whey protein shake that is very low in sugar and hopefully low/lower in sodium to help feed the recovery.

When you see how much food that is over a whole day it looks like a lot, but eat it...eat it all, when you're supposed to, even if you're NOT hungry. The reason you do this is you're training your body....yeah, you are. After a week or two your body will CRAVE food at these times. If you miss a snack or meal after do this for long enough, you will KNOW IT because you will be really hungry. If you're an half hour or hour late, still eat the meal/snack. If you're past that point, don't worry about it and eat the next one at the right time.

My work does not allow me to stop and make my snacks (darn customer, lol). In fact, even when I packed my snacks I couldn't even get away from my duties for long enough to eat them. I do not recommend doing this in the first 2-3 weeks because it doesn't allow your body to the right training....I currently have a 100% whey protein shake for my morning & afternoon snack, and a piece of fruit to tide me over.

Grill your meat when possible! Natural way to cook and have less fat left over when done. Leave out Salts & Oils at EVERY opportunity! When cooking chicken in a pan, use chicken broth to help keep it from sticking to the pan.

If you're like me and have very little time during the week to cook, then cook all your meat on the weekend and freeze/refrigerate in pre-measured quantities so they're easily accessible throughout the week.

Some people have to adjust these things to fit work out, or caloric needs. Be sure that the fruits you are eating for these times are not ones naturally high in sugar. Check out http://nutritiondata.self.com/ for that sort of information. I love that site for the wealth of information! If you think something has a high salt/sugar content because it's not the ACTUAL fruit/vegetable you buy in the produce section of your store, but maybe from the frozen food section, check that site & see what they add. Some frozen potato products are JUST potato & nothing else. In contrast, frozen fruits almost always have added sugars/syrups.


Hope I got everything in there....it's rather late and I really don't want to lead anyone astray.

 

[mrlhunt]

Re: No carbs gaining weight

Get the Insanity dvd workout, you can do it at home and it is mostly core training. If it doesn t kill you at first you will love it.

 

[bigwheeler]

Re: No carbs gaining weight

Carbs are fine if they are from vegetables, which you eat none of. Hard to figure
why you are still breathing with a diet like that. Try steel cut oats in the morning,
a little brown sugar if you can't handle them. Apples and oranges are decent for
fruit as are dark berries. Sweet fruits like bananas and pineapples are a desert.
Cut out any and all processed meats, they are killers in any quantity. Beer will slow
your metabolism and really cause problems with trying to burn off excess calories.
Fidget, it's the #1 easiest way to burn calories. Stay with multi grain breads, they
taste like shit for the most part and you won't eat much of them. White flour has
THE chemical in it they use to CAUSE diabetes in lab animals for research. Keep it
to deserts only if that. (not really a wonder why it's an epidemic in this country)

And most important, do as I say, not as I do!

thought I better add a link for all the flamers around here lately.
The chemical is alloxan.

http://www.naturalnews.com/008191.html

 

[anthony_se]

Re: No carbs gaining weight

No, big wheeler, ALL GRAINS ARE BAD SHIT!!! and don't even think about gluten-free as an alternative because of the shit carb starches that take it's place. Multi-grain is just another word for "nothin' left to lose." Frankenwheat is what it's called, whether the color of it is brown, yellow, white, black, rye. It's all the same hybridized shit, and we've for so many years bought into Big Agra's line about "healthy whole-grains." But, hey, I don't have a dog in the fight.

 

[Photon]

Re: No carbs gaining weight

#1 Is that going 100% off carbs is not the best way to lose weight. The key to weight loss is by burning more calories in a day than you take in.

First thing to do is determine your REE (resting energy expenditure) which is just how many calories you would burn based on age, weight, and height without doing ANYTHING all day long. This is the minimum that you will need to survive.

Assuming that on top of that you are exercising regularly, especially high cardio, you will want to take in some form of carbohydrates in order to fuel your body. Don't think of food as a fat-gaining agent that's their to clog arteries and make you jiggle, think of it as a fuel.

The body gains calories from four different sources, the basic location from which energy is drawn from your body is ATP (adenoside triphosphate). A gram of fat yields: 9 calories, carbs: 4 calories, protein: 4 calories, alcohol: 7 calories. If you don't take in many carbs, and cut out alcohol in your diet, you're getting your calories from fat and protein. Fat will never turn into muscle, and if you're burning protein, you will literally be using your muscles to get energy for exercise.

People who do a lot (a lot a lot) of working out like say, Michael Phelps, will consume thousands of calories from carbohydrates in a day because he needs it to burn through in exercise. When you aren't pulling the energy from your muscles to perform, you can pull it from carbs/fat (the thing you want to do).

My suggestion is to seek out some assistance from a dietician and track everything that you eat for around 4-5 days in addition to the amount of physical activity you do. I personally use the Harris-Benedict equation to see my caloric needs throughout the day and overall throughout the week, I'll typically seek a goal on a weekly basis. If I'm on a weight-loss program, I'll try to lose around 1-2 pounds a week, which means 3500-7000 calories less than what I need to take in throughout the week.

Hope this helps you out. Keep kickin' it.

 

[fargo007]

Re: No carbs gaining weight

I'm going to recommend swimming if there's an issue preventing you from metcon or strength workouts. Even if you just tread water for as long as possible you will get a whole body workout no matter what you do in the water. Tread water with a 10lb pool brick held with both hands and your legs will feel like stacks of marshmallows when you get out of the pool.

And you're also building a martial skill that could possibly save your life, and the lives of others someday.

--Fargo007

 

[wlwaldock]

Re: No carbs gaining weight

You need to look into something like body for life, low carb diets are stupid. You just burn up all your muscle mass and then if you ever eat a carb again you will soak it up like a sponge. It's not a long term plan.

You should be eating more often i.e. 5-8 meals a day and balancing carbs 40% protein 40% and fats 10% and you will loose weight with the right portion control. I dropped from 245 to 180 doing that and I ate carbs the whole way. Took about 4-5 months with a workout routine.

feel free to pm me for info I know quite a bit about this and have done it all personally.

 

[wlwaldock]

Re: No carbs gaining weight

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: copdoc</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No, big wheeler, ALL GRAINS ARE BAD SHIT!!! and don't even think about gluten-free as an alternative because of the shit carb starches that take it's place. Multi-grain is just another word for "nothin' left to lose." Frankenwheat is what it's called, whether the color of it is brown, yellow, white, black, rye. It's all the same hybridized shit, and we've for so many years bought into Big Agra's line about "healthy whole-grains." But, hey, I don't have a dog in the fight.

</div></div>

wrong, whole grains such as brown rice and what not digest slower in your system which requires it to burn off more of the calorie intake

slow digesting carbs like brown rice, sweet potatoes, oats that digest slowly are a staple to any bodybuilders diet where fast digesting carbs baked potatos and things like that are surely not

 

[pizzamanny]

Re: No carbs gaining weight

Law of energy. Less in more out.

 

[toddconley]

Re: No carbs gaining weight

This thread has blown up since I looked last. this is good discusion keep it coming.
Thanks,
T

 

[Jeff Given]

Re: No carbs gaining weight

Coming off carbs completely is effective at losing weight fast. However, it doesn't do much for a lifestyle change. Try living for the next 20 years without any carbs. Hence, this type of diet is one of the best "turnaround" diets, because once you stop, you turnaround and put it right back on.




<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Photon</div><div class="ubbcode-body">#1 Is that going 100% off carbs is not the best way to lose weight. The key to weight loss is by burning more calories in a day than you take in.

First thing to do is determine your REE (resting energy expenditure) which is just how many calories you would burn based on age, weight, and height without doing ANYTHING all day long. This is the minimum that you will need to survive.

Assuming that on top of that you are exercising regularly, especially high cardio, you will want to take in some form of carbohydrates in order to fuel your body. Don't think of food as a fat-gaining agent that's their to clog arteries and make you jiggle, think of it as a fuel.

The body gains calories from four different sources, the basic location from which energy is drawn from your body is ATP (adenoside triphosphate). A gram of fat yields: 9 calories, carbs: 4 calories, protein: 4 calories, alcohol: 7 calories. If you don't take in many carbs, and cut out alcohol in your diet, you're getting your calories from fat and protein. Fat will never turn into muscle, and if you're burning protein, you will literally be using your muscles to get energy for exercise.

People who do a lot (a lot a lot) of working out like say, Michael Phelps, will consume thousands of calories from carbohydrates in a day because he needs it to burn through in exercise. When you aren't pulling the energy from your muscles to perform, you can pull it from carbs/fat (the thing you want to do).

My suggestion is to seek out some assistance from a dietician and track everything that you eat for around 4-5 days in addition to the amount of physical activity you do. I personally use the Harris-Benedict equation to see my caloric needs throughout the day and overall throughout the week, I'll typically seek a goal on a weekly basis. If I'm on a weight-loss program, I'll try to lose around 1-2 pounds a week, which means 3500-7000 calories less than what I need to take in throughout the week.

Hope this helps you out. Keep kickin' it.</div></div>

 

[TRAAV]

Re: No carbs gaining weight

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[FALex]

Re: No carbs gaining weight

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wanderlust</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Eat less.

If you're expending less calories than you take in, you're going to gain weight. Assuming that you're not gaining muscle, eat less.

Low carb diets aren't "magic" in the sense that you can eat how ever much you want and not gain weight. You don't develop a resistance to a lack of carbohydrates, you only develop a insulin resistance if you eat way to many carbs (i.e. diabetes).

Eat less. </div></div>

not so sure about that blanket statement. I lost 60lbs eating over 4000 calories a day in all meat and fat products. I have lost 120lbs, total and I continue to eat like this. I eat until I am full or even more than that at times. I work out now, but I did not work out at all when I dropped the 120. And when I do work out, I sure as shit do not burn 2500 calories...In fact, I just ate 2.5lbs of carne asada and a boatload of cheese! And yes, my grocery bill is absolutely stupid. My wife hates me.

ETA - Jeff, I've been doing it for 4 years now. It's not quite 20 but it will be in another 16! HA!

I just can't imagine going back to eating potatoes, breads, pasta, etc...I've developed a sort of complex when it comes to ingesting carbs.

Also, my blood pressure is "perfect" according to my doc, cholesterol is also really good.

 

[AR180]

Re: No carbs gaining weight

Very interesting. Tag

 

[JJones75]

Re: No carbs gaining weight

Their is so much misinformation and misunderstanding on how differant nutrients work with and against the body here that i dont know where to begin

 

[yote_slayer31]

Re: No carbs gaining weight

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[JJones75]

Re: No carbs gaining weight

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wlwaldock</div><div class="ubbcode-body">wrong, whole grains such as brown rice and what not digest slower in your system which requires it to burn off more of the calorie intake

slow digesting carbs like brown rice, sweet potatoes, oats that digest slowly are a staple to any bodybuilders diet where fast digesting carbs baked potatos and things like that are surely not </div></div>

are you a bodybuilder ??
carbs are not evil they actualy make life a bit easier and when the right carbs are take. at the right time they are all very useful , the issues people have with grains is their gluten content , the human body doesent like it and most people don't respond well to it. I will gain and retain more fat eating brown rice and oats than I will eating white potatoes and fruit that's a fact because i have a high gluten intolerance my body hates it. I eat a reasonable amount of carbs daily , the trick to eating carbs is learning what to eat them with and when to eat the.
Ive done alot of test with this subject and found that alot of the "common knowledge" that we have been taught is utter bullshit.

to understand why a low/no carb diet works you have to understand what and how the body uses carbs and how they work in relation to your daily activities.

The body runs on glucose normally , glucose comes from carbs primarily but can and will also be made from protein (more on this later) when we eat ANYTHING the body produces insulin to utilize it , insulin is a storage hormone. When we eat alot of carbs all at once the body produces alot of insulin to deal with it , if we have to much glycogen in the body due to being sedentary then the excess glucose we just made from carbs will be stored as fat very quickly as well and any excess fat. Fat is actualy not stored very easily because the body doesn't like using it for fuel so we process it out.
the faster carbs are digested the fast the body has to produce insulin (and more) to deal with it , this is why realy fast digesting carbs like starchy grains and potatoes are looked at and being bad but if you eat these "fast carbs" with some fiber , protein or fat then digestion is slowed and the insulin release is lowered thus reducing the ammount of glycogen floating around.
Ketosis diets work because their is little to no glycogen other than what the body is making from protein so their is nothing realy to be stored to fat , we have an big excess of fat that the body doesn't want to use for energy bacuase their is plenty in storage so we just process it out.

so if you eat carbs try to eat fiberous or slower digesting carbs and don't eat them alone , also eat them last in your meal so that the body is already processing other food a d digestion is slowed. Also don't eat alot of carbs if you're not real active and try to get tour carbs in during the first hf of the day this way you don't have alot of glycogen in the system when the body is not going to burn it off

 

[MODArmory – Nicole]

Re: No carbs gaining weight

Your body adapts to the amount of calories that you eat. For women when they diet and only consume 1600 calories their metabolism will mirror that after awhile. This is when many people hit a plateau and become frustrated because they are not losing any weight. If you are eating 4000 calories your metabolism will adjust eventually. It also depends on your muscle mass. Every LB of muscle you have burns 50 calories a day. Versus every LB of body fat burns 5 calories a day. If you have 10 lb's either way (fat or muscle) you could be burning 50 or 500 calories. Plus if you are on a high protein diet you are feeding your muscles. <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: FALex</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wanderlust</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Eat less.

If you're expending less calories than you take in, you're going to gain weight. Assuming that you're not gaining muscle, eat less.

Low carb diets aren't "magic" in the sense that you can eat how ever much you want and not gain weight. You don't develop a resistance to a lack of carbohydrates, you only develop a insulin resistance if you eat way to many carbs (i.e. diabetes).

Eat less. </div></div>

not so sure about that blanket statement. I lost 60lbs eating over 4000 calories a day in all meat and fat products. I have lost 120lbs, total and I continue to eat like this. I eat until I am full or even more than that at times. I work out now, but I did not work out at all when I dropped the 120. And when I do work out, I sure as shit do not burn 2500 calories...In fact, I just ate 2.5lbs of carne asada and a boatload of cheese! And yes, my grocery bill is absolutely stupid. My wife hates me.

ETA - Jeff, I've been doing it for 4 years now. It's not quite 20 but it will be in another 16! HA!

I just can't imagine going back to eating potatoes, breads, pasta, etc...I've developed a sort of complex when it comes to ingesting carbs.

Also, my blood pressure is "perfect" according to my doc, cholesterol is also really good. </div></div>

 

[MMAJunkie]

Re: No carbs gaining weight

I have lost 50 pounds on a mostly low carb/low to moderate fat diet. I don't watch fat too hard but I do cut out all simple sugars when possible. My bp has dropped as has cholesterol and all other blood work is good according to my doctor.

Ive been on it a year exactly this weekend and so far so good

 

[M1Amen]

I eat three mostly. Some times 2 sometimes 4. But mostly three. I eat meat, eggs and dairy. A spoon ful of peanut butter every now and then for a treat and tons of fruit are all the carbs I am eating. I eat a lot of pinapple fruit cups and apples are my fruits. I am 6 ft and was down to 187 in warm weather and was pretty lean. 180-183ish would have been really lean. I am 204 today and I have no idea how I got there. It seems like it was overnight.

The pineapple fruit cups and the "tons of fruit" are what's getting you. Cut that shit out of your diet. Then go to the pharmacy and ask the pharmacist for some KetoDiastix. Buy the generic kind because they are the exact same thing as the name brand from Bayer. These are used to measure ketones in the urine so that diabetics know they have their diabetes under control. You can use them to make sure you are in ketosis.

Do this and you will be back on the path.

M1Amen

 

[M1Amen]

Law of energy. Less in more out.

Not exactly. This sounds good, but it doesn't work this way. That's like saying I could get better gas mileage by putting diesel in my car. The diesel may have more chemical bond energy per gallon, but it certainly isn't what the car should run on. At a very minimum, there will be a lot of inefficient exhaust smoke.

 

[Changed]

You would benefit from more meals, with less consumed during the meal. You shouldnt ditch the weights, just remove anything that impacts the RC. Machines are a good idea.