Movie Theater No Easy Day (book)

[khall540]

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/48754703/ns/today-the_new_york_times/

Might have to pre-order this one

This one will definatley have to be added to my library.

 

[Casey Simpson]

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Unless what happened in the operation was nothing special, it could be argued its treason for this former covert operator to reveal details about the weapons, equipment and tactics used by America's elite team who, by the way, are employees of the American citizen for our defense, and supervised by civilians elected by the citizen, in accordance with the Constitution.

Unless his name is never discovered, and sales proceeds are diverted to a trust of sorts, it is self-absorbed for this cat to reveal details about the weapons and tactics used by America's top team in exchange for personal, ego-based, recognition and financial advantage. Rightfully, we sentenced Aldrich Aimes to life imprisonment, and branded him a spy, for revealing classified and sensitive information to possible adversaries of the State.

Conversely, his view might be limited and thus useless, but if it isn't, it could be dangerous once disclosed.

My thoughts here come for my deeply felt appreciation for the team's dedication and sacrifice as a team and as individual humans, and the future safety of members to whom the details contained in this book may be detrimental.

I'd bet this team member-now-author is persona-non-grata at The Club.

 

[Graham]

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Pimping the Trident is nothing new. But I hear that all proceeds from the book will be donated.

 

[perkantino]

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Oh boy! This is going to a huge brouhaha!

 

[Dogtown]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Graham</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Pimping the Trident is nothing new. </div></div>

It's all the rage these days. Either way, this book could be retitled: <span style="font-style: italic">"No Easy Day: How to Make Yourself Perona Non Grata at the Unit Reunions"</span>

 

[khall540]

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I was not in the military, however, I do have much respect and appreciation for those who are/have served our country. I guess I'm a bit confused on how this is any different than Marcus Luttrell's book Lone Survivor or Chris Kyle's book American Sniper besides that it focuses on probably the largest mission ever that is much more known to the public throughout the World? The days after the mission's success I said to myself, "I wonder when/who is going to write the book or make the movie about this one.."

 

[Dogtown]

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At the JSOC level, they don't take too well to their guys, active or former, detailing much of anything. A guy who serves in an ODA or SEAL Team 2, for example, will not get PNG'd if he writes a book about his experiences as long as he goes through the proper channels (for the most part). But step up to SMU level, where secrecy is treated at the same level as loyalty and you're on thin ice the moment you break your silence. If this guy didn't go through the proper channels, as it appears, he's in deep doo-doo. That's just the way it is.

 

[Casey Simpson]

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<span style="font-size: 17pt">WASHINGTON (Reuters) - <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">The former U.S. Navy SEAL who authored a soon-to-be-published book about the raid that killed Osama bin Laden is now facing threats against his life in addition to possible criminal prosecution.
An official al Qaeda website on Friday posted a photograph and the name of the former Navy commando responsible for the book, calling him "the dog who murdered the martyr Sheikh Osama bin Laden."
The head of U.S. Special Operations Command told current and former troops that the military would take legal action against anyone found to have exposed sensitive information that could cause harm to fellow forces.
"We will pursue every option available to hold members accountable, including criminal prosecution where appropriate," Admiral Bill McRaven wrote in an open, unclassified letter emailed to the active-duty special operations community, and obtained by Reuters on Friday.
"As current or former members of our special operations community, authors have a moral obligation, and a legal duty, to submit their works for pre-publication security review," the admiral wrote.</span></span>

 

[Casey Simpson]

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The shtf on this fiasco as you can read in the news

 

[Big Bo]

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Ordered today.

 

[maxpower220]

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You don't watch much of the Discovery or Military Channel do you? There is a lot of info on all of the Special Forces. Including weapons, basic tactics, training.

Ever hear of Richard Marchiko (SP)? His first book was pretty good, and it detailed many operations of the late 80s early 90s.

 

[ssgp2]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: maxpower220</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You don't watch much of the Discovery or Military Channel do you? There is a lot of info on all of the Special Forces. Including weapons, basic tactics, training.

Ever hear of Richard Marchiko (SP)? His first book was pretty good, and it detailed many operations of the late 80s early 90s.
</div></div>

The difference being that Marchinko and others submited they're book to the military
before publishing.
The Osama operation is still very recent and the book, it seems, was not reviewed by the military

 

[Casey Simpson]

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<span style="font-size: 11pt">You are kidding, right?

As that goofy Ed McMahon used to say to Johnny Carson; "you are correct, sir". I don't watch TV.

During college when I was learning the distinction between primary and secondary source material - how to get at the truth about what really happened, and during many hours of cross examination trying yet again to get at the truth of what really happened, I have learned that the truth is elusive - far too elusive to rely on TV for it. Truth is buried under layers of opinions UNLESS truth supports one's ego, and even then truth is exaggerated. Truth is somewhere between what happened, and what is reported, believed, perceived, purported, told, to have happened. TV is incredible. Incredible means not credible. Credible means perhaps bearing some truth.

Don't rely on TV for your information. TV is misleading and misinformation.

At the very least, writing or telling about an operation like this is unprofessional, if not treason and betrayal of one's country and comrades.</span>

 

[ssgp2]

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http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/30/world/asia/us-seal-book-bin-laden/index.html

 

[perkantino]

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There are pics of gear in there!

 

[Cuban Croc]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: khall540</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was not in the military, however, I do have much respect and appreciation for those who are/have served our country. I guess I'm a bit confused on how this is any different than Marcus Luttrell's book Lone Survivor or Chris Kyle's book American Sniper besides that it focuses on probably the largest mission ever that is much more known to the public throughout the World? The days after the mission's success I said to myself, "I wonder when/who is going to write the book or make the movie about this one.." </div></div>

 

[perkantino]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: khall540</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was not in the military, however, I do have much respect and appreciation for those who are/have served our country. I guess I'm a bit confused on how this is any different than Marcus Luttrell's book Lone Survivor or Chris Kyle's book American Sniper besides that it focuses on probably the largest mission ever that is much more known to the public throughout the World? The days after the mission's success I said to myself, "I wonder when/who is going to write the book or make the movie about this one.."</div></div>

Different? Kyle and Luttrell submitted their works to the DoD for review. Some things were removed. Kyle himself mentioned it. This guy didn't. If what he reveals compromises ongoing ops, people can get hurt/die. That's the difference

 

[watereddownevil]

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I also was not in the service, but I have read a fair amount of the resent books that have come out lately.This book seems very much like the others . Do you think the big deal is he didnt have it looked at by the proper channels, or did you guys who are in that line of work (and read the book) see where he really exposed to much? I did not . I do understand his point that the original story and his are very different. what I enjoyed most was his statement that the higher up the food chain the bigger pussys the bad guys are.

 

[flatlander]

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USPS just delivered my copy. I'll let you know my thoughts

 

[Casey Simpson]

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Different? Kyle and Luttrell submitted their works to the DoD for review. Some things were removed. Kyle himself mentioned it. This guy didn't. If what he reveals compromises ongoing ops, people can get hurt/die. That's the difference
<span style="color: #3366FF">This is THE problem. THIS is what we're talking about here</span>

I also was not in the service, but I have read a fair amount of the resent books that have come out lately.This book seems very much like the others . Do you think the big deal is he didnt have it looked at by the proper channels, or did you guys who are in that line of work (and read the book) see where he really exposed to much? I did not . I do understand his point that the original story and his are very different. what I enjoyed most was his statement that the higher up the food chain the bigger pussys the bad guys are.
<span style="color: #3333FF">Glad you enjoyed that. Is it worth risking our special operators? The topic here is the safety and security of operators in future missions. A side issue here is disrespect of the chain of command; conduct unbecoming an officer (or NCO).

Trashing the chain of command or seeking to embarrass the civilian leadership could be unprofessional conduct of an American soldier.

Breaching the rules of conduct stoops to levels of conduct we are trying, as a nation, to correct or set better examples for. Its wrong.</span>

 

[watereddownevil]

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I can see that you have some very strong feelings about this, and I thank you for taking the time to share them.I reread your post and its still unclear to me , have you read the book? I did have a promblem with your statement about " seeking to embarrass the civilian leadership " .Calling a individual or group on their B.S. no matter how embarrassing is not wrong . The truth, its always right.

 

[QuietM4]

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I am about 1/2 way through the book...it is an amazing read.

I have yet to see anything that could endanger future OPSEC, but he does a fair amount of Obama bashing. Not that I disagree with anything that is said, but he does bash the 'civilian leadership'. Considering that none of us have anywhere near the understanding of what happened more than the author does, I tend to want to give him a metric ton of leeway.

I don't see the book as a blatant disregard for OPSEC or leadership bashing; I see it as a first hand account of one of the, if not THE, most important miltary actions of our country's military history.

 

[Maggot]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Casey Simpson</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
<span style="font-size: 11pt">You are kidding, right?

As that goofy Ed McMahon used to say to Johnny Carson; "you are correct, sir". I don't watch TV.

During college when I was learning the distinction between primary and secondary source material - how to get at the truth about what really happened, and during many hours of cross examination trying yet again to get at the truth of what really happened, I have learned that the truth is elusive - far too elusive to rely on TV for it. Truth is buried under layers of opinions UNLESS truth supports one's ego, and even then truth is exaggerated. """""""" Truth is somewhere between what happened, and what is reported, believed, perceived, purported, told, to have happened.""""""""""" TV is incredible. Incredible means not credible. Credible means perhaps bearing some truth.

Don't rely on TV for your information. TV is misleading and misinformation.

At the very least, writing or telling about an operation like this is unprofessional, if not treason and betrayal of one's country and comrades.</span></div></div>

Have to disagree on that part. There is one TRUTH concerning what happened, and many versions of that truth.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: watereddownevil</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I can see that you have some very strong feelings about this, and I thank you for taking the time to share them.I reread your post and its still unclear to me , have you read the book? I did have a promblem with your statement about " seeking to embarrass the civilian leadership " .Calling a individual or group on their B.S. no matter how embarrassing is not wrong . The truth, its always right.</div></div>

For some reason I lost the capability to change font or color so the only way I have to highlite is repitition

The truth, its always right.
The truth, its always right.
The truth, its always right.
The truth, its always right.

This statement carries a lot of wisdom.

Jefferson said it slightly different. " For here we are not afraid to follow truth wherever it may lead"

Another said "You shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free."

The Truth. Powerful stuff. Seems in short supply.

 

[Casey Simpson]

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I wrote that seeking to embarrass the civilian leadership could be unprofessional. I did not write that it was wrong.

I wrote that breaching codified rules of conduct was stooping to levels we as a nation are trying to teach those who don't know. The rules under which the author operates requires him to submit the manuscript. He did not, it is reported.

Yes. That operation was important to national security which is why the details should not be disclosed in a public forum such as a bestselling novel or sorts.

Of course truth is important....when it matters. What does it matter here? The goal was achieved. The target destroyed. What difference do the details make? Who cares what grain bullet it was?

Let's follow truth when it matters; in policy, i.e.; whether we fight for a reason that is the truth, whether there really are WMD's. Further, as you all know, during the winter following 9-11 CIA and Delta operators pinpointed Bin Laden's location as he and his clan approached the escape gap into Pakistan, but they were unable, suspiciously, to get approval to destroy the target then, which was Pre-Iraq.
2+2=4.

I agree with you guys that full disclosure of policy might be appropriate in some cases, but not where doing so risks further escalation of a crisis.

Detailed accounts of this major operation may well provoke clowns bent on killing Americans. That is not helpful to our national security. Clearly, this result achieves the opposite of what the author has trained to do; deter offensive threats by a show of power and ability, and defend national security when necessary.

 

[maxpower220]

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Well, while you were in college learning theory, I was defending the country in a few conflicts.

Please explain what actions an author takes in writing a book that is unprofessional. You see, once you leave the service, you are a civilian again. If you bash the former chain of command, you are now using the Constitution to protect your right to free speech. If you lie about something in that opinion, then you may fall under libel. Isn't America great.

Sure, having a security clearance gives you information that you can't/shouldn't share in your writings. The book should have been reviewed, as after years and years of operating, what is secret or not becomes blurred. Also, it is even more blurred when you see classified info on the internet, the TV, and the newspaper.

I look forward to reading the book.

 

[Jrogers05]

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i just finished reading it. Was a good read, took me about 5 or 6 hours. I really did not see anything in the book that I did not read in American Sniper or Seal Target Geronimo or any other Dick Couch Book that I have read. Other than the fact that this author expresses his opinions of the POTUS during an election cycle. Absolutely worth the time reading and the story is a bit different than what was sold to the media by DC.

 

[slowkota]

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The only thing I learned that hasn't been blasted all over the media already is...

That Abbottabad was named after some British dude! lol

Everybody shit a brick over nothing! Good publicity for the authors though.

 

[Dogtown]

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It's kind of ironic how people jumped all over "Zero Dark Thirty" initially having a pre-election release date, claiming it could unfairly influence the election but there's no similiar outrage over "No Easy Day."

 

[shootist2004]

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the author is on 60 minutes tonight.............

 

[SFC Carpentier jr]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">the author is on 60 minutes tonight </div></div>

Pick up a copy of the book. Also just watched the author on 60 minutes. He gave a good detail about the raid.

 

[SuckitTrebek]

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I haven't read the book yet, it is on order though.

My problem with the whole thing is that this guy didn't keep to the code that every guy out there doing work of this nature has.

KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT

Big difference between talking to buddies and writing a fucking book.

No idea why he decided to start talking when he comes from a place that preaches being a "silent professional".

 

[cavscout1983]

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Ya know... there are two sides to the "keep your mouth shut" principle: One for the trigger pullers and the other for the pieces of shit that sent them to pull triggers. The coin got flipped into the political vending machine and all bets are off. Don't like the flavor, .gov? Take a sip, .gov... take a sip.

May Bissonette make hand over fist money and may the .gov lose their case against him.

 

[Casey Simpson]

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There are not two sides to "Keep you Mouth Shut", unless the "silent professional" becomes a politician.

I bought the book last night and thumbed through it. My first impression is that it contains fluff; big print, big spaces, etc.

 

[cavscout1983]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Casey Simpson</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
There are not two sides to "Keep you Mouth Shut", unless the "silent professional" becomes a politician.

I bought the book last night and thumbed through it. My first impression is that it contains fluff; big print, big spaces, etc. </div></div>

There are two sides when one of those sides is for the purpose of not revealing anything with the understanding the other side won't as well within reason. It doesn't logically follow that the other side can speak all they want for political gain. Bissonette wrote under a pseudonym. His identity was leaked. He didn't jump up and down screaming "DEVGRU represent!" The only folks who would have ever known were his teammates. Instead, Barry and crew jumped on the opportunity to lie to the US public and point the finger at DEVGRU as the trigger pullers and door kickers of the OP.

NDA is a contract between two parties in effect. One side can't break the contract and then call foul when the contract is no longer honored by the other side.

The WH leaked more in the first 48 hours than Bissonette, and they even provided tons of info to a freaking director for a movie, including documents supposed to remain classified. Eff them. Eff them hard.

 

[SuckitTrebek]

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Agreed. You don't break codes your supposed to live by because you don't like the actions of others, including whoever you work for.

So I can't wait to read the book. However I'm very much against it being written in the first place.

The public needs to know how good the cake is, not all the ingredients it took to get there.

 

[Dogtown]

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Are you sure you're not from Ohio?

 

[watereddownevil]

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Seriously , 7 condescending and at times long winded posts on this topic and you have just "thumbed through it" not even read the book. Wow so much for your soap box when i was in college learning how to find truth speech.I am sure you will retort with some multi paragraph blah blah blah as is your right.Read the book and see if you can find all these revelations the news is carrying on about like Panetta who also has not read the book and then point them out. Bottom line the author is a great American hero who dedicated most of his adult life ,was there and told the world what really happened.

 

[Casey Simpson]

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Waterhead, actually, you read my mind. My plan is to read it and provide a "blow-blow-narrative" (see inside front flap, para 2) of its contents, if the book proves to have any real content.

Meanwhile, I feel you have misunderstood my motives here. My motive is to express and discuss my concern for American security that might have been, arguably, breached by the writing of "No Easy Day", whether civilian or uniformed citizens. Thats it.

 

[nikwho]

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Proceeds from this book are being donated to charity. The author will not make a profit on the sales of the book, FWIW.

 

[beenjammin]

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I am about 65 pages in. From what I have read he talks mostly about his training which we have all seen much of on the discovery channel. I do not like how much he talks about all the ways the various teams conduct missions: times they usually go on raids, entry techniques in conjunction with other divisions of the military, cities and states where special forces train. On the other hand in the preface of the book, he does mention it was reviewed by military attorney to make sure nothing in appropriate was mentioned...

I still wish the media had not even mentioned the SEALs when Bin laden was killed. I think the president should have just come on TV and said Bin Laden has been delt with thanks to the effort of our armed forces.. The end. There should have really not been any mentioned of the SEALs. Our ninjas need to be left in the shadows, not in the media limelight.

 

[Dogtown]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: beenjammin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I still wish the media had not even mentioned the SEALs when Bin laden was killed. I think the president should have just come on TV and said Bin Laden has been delt with thanks to the effort of our armed forces.. The end. </div></div>

But...that's what he did. No mention of specific units. Eventually details leaked out, but to think they wouldn't is naive. This was one of the most important raids in US (if not Western) history so it was a matter of time before details got out in one form or another. It would have happened under Bush or any other president. The problem is that TOO MUCH got out TOO SOON, in my opinion, and that can be blamed on a variety of factors like members of the administration doing high-fives, mil folks wanting to impress their media contacts or source bonefides, prying journalists with deep connections. The motivations are myriad.

 

[cavscout1983]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dogtown</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: beenjammin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I still wish the media had not even mentioned the SEALs when Bin laden was killed. I think the president should have just come on TV and said Bin Laden has been delt with thanks to the effort of our armed forces.. The end. </div></div>

But...that's what he did. No mention of specific units. Eventually details leaked out, but to think they wouldn't is naive. This was one of the most important raids in US (if not Western) history so it was a matter of time before details got out in one form or another. It would have happened under Bush or any other president. The problem is that TOO MUCH got out TOO SOON, in my opinion, and that can be blamed on a variety of factors like members of the administration doing high-fives, mil folks wanting to impress their media contacts or source bonefides, prying journalists with deep connections. The motivations are myriad.</div></div>

Eventually? You mean like... 3 May 2011, the day after the raid? Like this 4 May 2011 article from the Telegraph shows? Like that sort of eventually? Oh, and from the mouth of Joe fucking Biden, the illustrious and slack-jawed Vice President who should know better?

Give me a break Dogtown... revisionism and obfuscation much... or just poor research on your part? I'll go the charitable route and assume the latter unless you admit the former.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Let me briefly acknowledge tonight’s distinguished honorees. Admiral James Stavridis is a, is the real deal. He can tell you more about and understands the incredible, the phenomenal, the just almost unbelievable capacity of his Navy SEALs and what they did last Sunday.

And:

Folks, I’d be remiss also if I didn’t say an extra word about the incredible events, extraordinary events of this past Sunday. As Vice President of the United States, as an American, I was in absolute awe of the capacity and dedication of the entire team, both the intelligence community, the CIA, the SEALs. It just was extraordinary.</div></div>
Source: http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyha...-us-navy-seals/

 

[leadbullet]

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i couldn't care less about the politics or controversy about this book, bought today and finished it today, great page turner and he did gave 10 years of awesome service to the country.
God bless him and to hell to all the haters.

 

[twwilson25]

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Picked it up Friday after work and read it through. Excellent book, and I can say there wasn't anything in the book that was a surprise or stuff I didn't previously know.

I agree with one of the previous comments, "NDA is a contract between two parties in effect. One side can't break the contract and then call foul when the contract is no longer honored by the other side.". The president and his administration are the ones who opened that can of worms to gain political favor. He is going to take the one and only good thing he did right in his 3.5 yrs and make as much out of it as he can. Giving confidential access to Hollywood to make it into a movie! You've got to be kidding me!

So I believe the author when he says his main intent was to set the record straight. Was it worth all the repercussions, current and future, just to set the record straight... probably not. I'm not military so I don't know how much of this is true about being shunned by the SF community for coming out with the story but to me I don't think that is worth the risk.

 

[Dogtown]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CS1983</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Eventually? You mean like... 3 May 2011, the day after the raid? Like this 4 May 2011 article from the Telegraph shows? Like that sort of eventually? Oh, and from the mouth of Joe fucking Biden, the illustrious and slack-jawed Vice President who should know better?
</div></div>

You obviously skipped the part I wrote in bold, eh?

 

[Casey Simpson]

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Reading the book and seeing and hearing the Green Team operator in the interview gives me cause to suspect, or to wonder, whether writers solicit these guys' stories - writers paid for as runners by publishing houses. Comparing and contrasting the book with the interviewee's personality suggests to me writers take liberties with embellishments and why not? No skin of his nose! Right? Throw the operator under the bus! I smell a rat.

Am I paranoid, or perceptive?

 

[msflyer]

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Seems like I signed a 20 year don't talk about it agreement with a don't talk about it forever if we tell you not to clause. This was a several page document where the government held all the cards. Simple - sign it now, or never fly again. That being said, I agree with CS that when the government blows the secrecy by talking it up to aggrandize themselves for political reasons (or any reason for that matter), the secrecy agreement is out the window. However, fairness, honesty, equity and honest self criticism have never been in the government play book, so who knows what they will end up doing. They've been on the wrong track for so long, nothing would surprise me.

Here's how I hope it turns out. The government states the book would have been a violation of their secrecy agreement had elected officials not already leaked essentially the entire content to the press. Therefore, no punitive action is appropriate. If an operation by one of America's agencies is to be confidential, it will remain confidential from the top down, encompassing the operators and elected officials equally. There should be no criticism of Bissonette. He and the team earned their silver star. The elected officials did not.

Bissonette did say he spoke to friends with the teams and everyone who knows him offered their encouragement for telling the story right.

Here's a video from a cadre of operators, admirals, cia, general officers and others who call themselves "opsecteam" ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-Xfti7qtT0 ) who blast the long pattern of leaks from our elected officials. It's a good watch though a bit long.

I'm inclined to trust Bissonette's judgement on this. Consider these points.
He's not done anything like this before.
Clearly he's a smart fellow who's been an exemplary operator, respected by his peers.
He knew the consequences of writing the book.
He's not profiting personally from the sales.

This makes me think there is something else. Something we don't know motivating him to put this all down for everyone to read.

So, do you trust the government to look after your best interest? Or, like me, do you incline to trust that Bissonette is publishing this for some higher purpose that we are not presently aware?

We may never know

 

[cavscout1983]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dogtown</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CS1983</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Eventually? You mean like... 3 May 2011, the day after the raid? Like this 4 May 2011 article from the Telegraph shows? Like that sort of eventually? Oh, and from the mouth of Joe fucking Biden, the illustrious and slack-jawed Vice President who should know better?
</div></div>

You obviously skipped the part I wrote in bold, eh?</div></div>

No... do you mean the link? I see no bold. SEALs isn't specific enough? Your follow-on to the link indicates an eventual letting loose of info when, in fact, Biden said SEALs not a week after as he is wont to do with classified info.

Perhaps he didn't think a few houses in Coronado (which admittedly are retarded themselves for having SEAL related things out front) might get hit, blown up, set on fire, etc? Does it matter that no one in Coronado had a part? No. It matters that he named a specific group of Special Operations which, while a larger community, narrows the focus of ire.

Simply put, Biden let loose the snowflake which started an avalanche of breaking OPSEC and, more egregiously, PERSEC.

I bet dollars to donuts that Bigelow will/has made way more off of her use of classified info than Bissonette will ever make off of correcting <span style="text-decoration: line-through">facts</span> lies told by the Administration for political gain. Apparently the POS couldn't even mount a valid self-defense after sending untold numbers to their death. Kinda like the faggot Hitler. Nothing new in the realm of Jew haters I suppose. :-/

Maybe we'll get lucky with our own "leadership" and they'll three-peat the vein of cowardice.

 

[woodspider]

Re: No Easy Day (book)

Just Read the Book I thought it was a great read. Whats all the fuss about? He didnt reveal any classified stuff that I can see? There is more information on the internet now then he worte in his book, heck the history and military channels have WAY MORE descritpive info on our so called "secrets" .
The Seals killed UBL on behalf the American people, Im glad we the American people have heard from someone actually there. Not the spin out of Obamaville. UBL 's death was a public service why not share with the public? In this day and age of Facebook, Youtube and all the internet information that flys around fast, we better all get used to it.Collective consciousness isnt that far away at least from a social perspective. The days of hush hush secret agent operator man are coming to a close, Technology is catching up with our egos and our curiosity. Will it cost lives only time will tell. But it is only gonna get leakier so to speak. I knew when Assange wasnt dead within days of betraying alot of powerful people that the age of total secrecy had begun its closing act.

 

[Dogtown]

Re: No Easy Day (book)

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CS1983</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dogtown</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CS1983</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Eventually? You mean like... 3 May 2011, the day after the raid? Like this 4 May 2011 article from the Telegraph shows? Like that sort of eventually? Oh, and from the mouth of Joe fucking Biden, the illustrious and slack-jawed Vice President who should know better?
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You obviously skipped the part I wrote in bold, eh?</div></div>

No... do you mean the link? </div></div>

Really? The bold part of the post that you quoted. The BOLD part where I wrote "TOO SOON" and "TOO MUCH". It's as if you started to read my post then interrupted that process and launched into an emotional freakout where you accuse me of revisionist history and lump me in with the know-nothing hippies, ignorant of my military background. Keep up the bloviating. It looks great on an internet forum.