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North Texas Rifle Precision (Course Review)

texasvmi

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WHERE EVER UNCLE SAM SENDS ME
I have recently completed CKA's Reloading and Long Range Rifle 1 Course. And I have to say that it was beyond what I imagined. You start by getting to know Jay Ruby (Captain Kick Ass, here on the Hide) and if you have a pulse, you will like him immediately. Second, he will give you the standard Safety Briefing and his personal dos and don'ts. After that have your notebook, tape recorder, and memory ready because the information will come quickly. The speed of instruction is not a bad thing. We covered ground that was a refresher for me. He slowed down when we started crossing into the processes I was less familiar with. Though I set the new worlds record for the slowest reloading, but Jay didn't rush me or take over as often happens when someone that is experienced deals with someone who is not. I finished the Reloading Course with 200 rounds .308 and confident that I could go home and replicate what I learned on any caliber I own. I have to give a special note to Mrs. Ruby for preparing an AMAZING meal for us after the day of reloading was done. That night Jay checked my rifle, scope, and gear for the next day. RANGE DAY.

Precision Rifle I, began by confirming my 100 yard Zero. I had never fired match grade ammo before and my groups were AMAZINGLY small (for me.) At this point Jay started showing me how to work up a load based on the ammo I made the night before. With chronograph set and targets hung, I started learning how the process works. I saw the the numbers that were best and that became MY load. We then moved back to the firing line and started the fun. My first block of instruction was in wind reading. The environmental conditions that day were not bad, but they weren't good either. There was a steady 10mph cross wind and it rained on and off. To me, this was another outstanding aspect of the training. How often do you shoot in PERFECT conditions? Probably not often. Within 3 shots I knew the effects the wind had on MY bullet and could still engage the steel, even as the wind gusted. From there I started engaging Steel reactive targets from 300 yards to 500 yards. This developed more confidence in myself, equipment, and rounds. Jay was there every shot coaching, mentoring, and teaching. And.... reminding me to breathe. By the time I was on my second box of 100 rounds I was hitting a 6 inch target at 800 yards. We took a break at this point and started playing with a pair of Bushnell's Fusion LRFs. I was throughly impressed.
At the end of the break I was introduced to positional shooting. I figured I would have been good at it, having done it for years in my current line of work. But there is a DIFFERENCE in positional shooting with an M16A2/M4 and a Remington M700, IOR Scope, and Harris Bipod. But the method, tips, and tricks Jay taught had me hitting steel again, repeatedly. There was never a range, position, or condition that Jay did not shoot first, to show me that it could be done, on my rifle, with my scope zeroed for me. I never questioned his method because it worked for me. We finished the 100 round box with only a hand full of fliers/missed rounds. I feel bad for Jay in this because I took my time with every shot and he called them all. We were able to pack up and get headed back to McKinney, Texas before a MASSIVE rain storm hit.
My final thoughts on NTRP courses are, if you are looking for the BEST 1 one on 1 instruction don't look any further. After the classes were done, I would have gladly paid twice what NTRP charges for the quality instruction I was given. Not once did I ever feel like I was anything but the center of attention of NTRP. I also don't feel that there were any "Secrets" that were not imparted, and no special ways to go about hand loading or shooting he didn't teach because one day we would be on the competition firing line together. I know that NTRP taught everything he could. Forget the distance you may have to travel, forget the time at work you might miss, go to www.northtexasrifleprecision.com and get signed up for a class. YOU WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED. Chances are you will be like me and already be signing up for Long Range II. On a personal note, Jay and Mrs Ruby are the nicest, most sincere people you will ever meet. If you don't walk away with two new friends that treat you like family, you probably need to have your heart examined, because it isn't beating.

5 GOLD STARS. I will use NTRP again and again, or until Jay tells me to go away.

David Gray
El Paso, Texas
 
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Wow! that says a lot since you drove all the way from El Paso. Shit I live 2 min. from him. Looks like I should get in touch with Jay before all the spots on his calender fill up.

Jamie
 
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Dude, it is just making bullets and shooting them. It was good times though for sure, lol

Be glad you weren't out there today. It was 106F but with humidity the heat index was 118F. It was insane hot. Had to use leather gloves to pick up steel due to the heat. My customer had a .243 built by Moon at GAP that was an absolute hammer with 105gr VLD rounds with RL22. I've had a lot of great shooting GAPs come through but this one just stood out.

Oh and I was only nice to you because I wasn't sure if you would cancel your check after you left
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beck.jamie,

Definitely get on NTRPs calender!!! Jay knows his S*it. His instruction method and delivery style is like no other. I bet he can get you hitting a golf ball at 750 yards or further before your time at the range is through. This isn't a guarantee, but I know NTRPs capability and it is REMARKABLE. He is modest in his "just loading bullets and shooting." Jay goes further and gets you confident in your equipment, yourself, and your rounds. Once you have that confidence you can do anything on that range. Give him a call, purchase the NTRP Load Development Book, and get on his schedule. You will not be disappointed. Another testimonial I have is that I feel confident enough, having taken just 1 of NTRPs classes, to sign up for my first shooting competition. And I know I will not walk away with my name in last place. Give him a shot. (no pun intended)

Dave Gray
 
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CKA,

So are you saying I should look into a GAP when I unload this one "certain" weapon? If you puss out on 118 degree day, I will drive there, put you in a head lock, and give you a noogie for everyone that ever deployed to Kuwait, Iraq, or Southern Afghanistan.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: beck.jamie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Wow! that says a lot since you drove all the way from El Paso. Shit I live 2 min. from him. Looks like I should get in touch with Jay before all the spots on his calender fill up.

Jamie </div></div>

Better hurry, I Talk to him the other day and spots are filling fast.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dallas12</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: beck.jamie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Wow! that says a lot since you drove all the way from El Paso. Shit I live 2 min. from him. Looks like I should get in touch with Jay before all the spots on his calender fill up.

Jamie </div></div>

Better hurry, I Talk to him the other day and spots are filling fast. </div></div>

i second this; i took his class and i learn alot! you could not ask for a better instructor.
 
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CKA
Great class this past weekend, lots of fun shooting and learned a great deal. Even though it was hotter than hell yesterday and I did not cool off till I got back to Dallas I really enjoyed it, and it was good stretching the 243 out there. The antelope next month better look out.
Thanks again
Danny
Oh yea hitting the golf ball at 750 yards was pretty cool also, even if I only grazed it.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dallas12</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: beck.jamie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Wow! that says a lot since you drove all the way from El Paso. Shit I live 2 min. from him. Looks like I should get in touch with Jay before all the spots on his calender fill up.

Jamie </div></div>

Better hurry, I Talk to him the other day and spots are filling fast. </div></div>


Just PM'd him with some questions.

Jamie
 
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beck.jamie
The range you will fire on is located on private property in Seven Points, Texas. Southeast of your current location. When I was there it was possible to make shots out to and over 1000 yards. I bet if you sweet talk CKA, he will bring his M-STOP (aka Mobile shooting platform). If he brings that along I am sure you will see at least 1100 yards. Give him a holler!

Dave Gray
 
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I have two ranges. I lease an abandoned gravel quarry that is 760 yards long with 30' high walls/levee. It makes an excellent shooting area because the levee serves as both a 360 degree shooting tower and a 360 degree impact berm. This really helps in defensive pistol and carbine because target engagement can take place in different directions. 1000 yards can be obtained with the M-STOMP, but that is normally used on full range days.

I do offer an open range day that is limited to small groups of 5 people or less. Details of that are on the website as well.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: texasvmi</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have recently completed CKA's Reloading and Long Range Rifle 1 Course. And I have to say that it was beyond what I imagined.</div></div>

Glad it worked out for you and exceeded your expectations.
 
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CKA,

I would be interested in doing a range day. However, I just moved here and don't know any one yet. If there's four others here that would like to set up a range day let me know.

Thanks,

Jamie
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: texasvmi</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Jay knows his S*it. His instruction method and delivery style is like no other. I bet he can get you hitting a golf ball at 750 yards or further before your time at the range is through.
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Jay would have to have some special golf balls for me to be able to hit them at 750 yards....
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lol, I can't remember who it was but a recent shooter told me they were going to bring a softball instead. He still hit the golf ball, anyway.

I'm trying to get Barns12's video edited but Windows Movie Maker has completely shit on me. From what I'm reading it does on everybody. I may have to go buy some 3rd party software.
 
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Barns12's 760 yard golf ball shot.

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You need to get Danny (Rice) to mow the grass down there so you can see on the ground. That or put your lawn mower on the trailer, stop by and pick up Dallas12 and have him mow some shooting lanes for you.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: beck.jamie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">CKA,

I would be interested in doing a range day. However, I just moved here and don't know any one yet. If there's four others here that would like to set up a range day let me know.

Thanks,

Jamie </div></div>

Im in Plano and about 5 miles from NTRP world headquarters. Keep in touch as to when you want to go shoot and Im sure there are some other locals who will go. Dallas12, toddacguy and 427Cobra are close. Post it on the forum that you are looking to get 4 people to shoot with CKA and split the cost. Its worth the cost to be able to go shoot out that far.

Also, If you are wanting to meet people here in the local area, CKA and I have a gang member introduction and meet and greet every Saturday afternoon. You must bring an offering to the gang in one of the following: (3) cases of "COLD" Shiner beer or (2) 1/2 gallons of Jack Daniels. This will be required on each visit. No substitutions.
 
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beck.jamie,
If you post on the Hide when you want to do a range day, I might head that direction and join you. If I may, let me also recommend one of NTRPs reloading courses. Quality Match Grade ammo can be bought at a premium. But with the proper components and a day with Jay, you will be making and shooting your own rounds forever, and at a lower cost.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: stacyp</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: beck.jamie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">CKA,

I would be interested in doing a range day. However, I just moved here and don't know any one yet. If there's four others here that would like to set up a range day let me know.

Thanks,

Jamie </div></div>

Im in Plano and about 5 miles from NTRP world headquarters. Keep in touch as to when you want to go shoot and Im sure there are some other locals who will go. Dallas12, toddacguy and 427Cobra are close. Post it on the forum that you are looking to get 4 people to shoot with CKA and split the cost. Its worth the cost to be able to go shoot out that far.

Also, If you are wanting to meet people here in the local area, CKA and I have a gang member introduction and meet and greet every Saturday afternoon. You must bring an offering to the gang in one of the following: (3) cases of "COLD" Shiner beer or (2) 1/2 gallons of Jack Daniels. This will be required on each visit. No substitutions. </div></div>

With you guys, he will be making a beer run in a couple of hours if thats all he brings ........ I would be down for splitting the cost of a range day, just let me know when and I will drive up from Huntsvegas .......
 
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I can also arrange for lodging in a heated and cooled guest house on site. The charge is $25/night. The money goes to the landowner. You need to bring your own cot and bedding.
 
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Sounds like at least four guys want to do it. How cold does it get in October? I was thinking 2nd or third weekend. Can't do the first. I already lined that up with Jay. Also, I think Krogers is close to NTRP world head quarters to make a beer run if we need more. BTW hope you don't mind it will be Shinner Black Lager, unless they don't have enough then I will get Bock.

Jamie
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: beck.jamie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sounds like at least four guys want to do it. How cold does it get in October? I was thinking 2nd or third weekend. Can't do the first. I already lined that up with Jay. Also, I think Krogers is close to NTRP world head quarters to make a beer run if we need more. BTW hope you don't mind it will be Shinner Black Lager, unless they don't have enough then I will get Bock.

Jamie </div></div>

oh dude, the Krogers at Custer and Eldorado??? I bought a 12pk of Hop Devil around 5pm. I made it to 7 and I'm seeing double right now..... maybe more
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Captain Kick-Ass</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: beck.jamie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sounds like at least four guys want to do it. How cold does it get in October? I was thinking 2nd or third weekend. Can't do the first. I already lined that up with Jay. Also, I think Krogers is close to NTRP world head quarters to make a beer run if we need more. BTW hope you don't mind it will be Shinner Black Lager, unless they don't have enough then I will get Bock.

Jamie </div></div>

oh dude, the Krogers at Custer and Eldorado??? I bought a 12pk of Hop Devil around 5pm. I made it to 7 and I'm seeing double right now..... maybe more </div></div>

LOL. Dude 7 and your seeing double. I better not bring more than 2 cases
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Jamie
 
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I'm starting to edge into November as of today for every weekend. I have a tentative date for an open range with a guy for 10/2. You can see the calendar on my website, it is under a secret tab that I labeled,"Calendar".


lol, but he knows that if others commit before he does, he loses his spot. He is a repeat customer so it is not a big deal. He'll just reschedule. So, look at that date and let me know. If not, this will make the second hunting season in a row that I could not hunt because I was too busy shooting
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- no shit. Thank God for year-round nilgai/exotic hunting lol
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: stacyp</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm in Plano and about 5 miles from NTRP world headquarters. Keep in touch as to when you want to go shoot and I'm sure there are some other locals who will go. Dallas12, <span style="color: #FF0000">toddacguy</span> and 427Cobra are close. Post it on the forum that you are looking to get 4 people to shoot with CKA and split the cost. It's worth the cost to be able to go shoot out that far.</div></div>

I'd be surprised if Todd pays to go shoot with CKA as he has plenty of his own free places to go shoot out that far (and farther)...
 
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Don't underestimate Todd's man-crushes.


He was beating on my door and calling my wife at 0300hrs to wake me up just so we could go have breakfast and film this:





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How far out does your range go? Can I get to 1400 and if so are the targets reactive and is their dirt behind them so I can see impact so as not to waste my valuable reloads?
 
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10-2 sounds good for me too. I think I better check my calendar though because i'm already signed up for so many matches I can't remember them all. Alzheimers' maybe?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: B. Melick</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: stacyp</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm in Plano and about 5 miles from NTRP world headquarters. Keep in touch as to when you want to go shoot and I'm sure there are some other locals who will go. Dallas12, <span style="color: #FF0000">toddacguy</span> and 427Cobra are close. Post it on the forum that you are looking to get 4 people to shoot with CKA and split the cost. It's worth the cost to be able to go shoot out that far.</div></div>

I'd be surprised if Todd pays to go shoot with CKA as he has plenty of his own free places to go shoot out that far (and farther)... </div></div>

Todd will smell the beer and gunpowder and follow the trail.

I will sign the petition and go as a target and water bitch I guess. Im sure CKA will need some help. Im sure Dallas12 will help as well. Someone get the charcoal and the ice.
 
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CKA,

Can there be more than 5 people? Seems like more than 5 people would like to do a range day.

Everyone that wants a range day,

It's $500 a day. CKA has it down as 5 people. That's $100 each. If CKA allows more than 5 people it could be less. Anyone interested in 10/2 range day PM me so I can get a list together. So, we can commit to that date.

Thanks,

Jamie
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Captain Kick-Ass</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sorry man, 5 is the limit. </div></div>

No need to apologize. It is I who should be apologizing to you. I should have talked to you fist before posting this on an open forum. I didn't mean to put you in that position. I am sorry for doing that to you.

Jamie
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: stacyp</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was volunteering my time to help CKA with targets and stuff. Dont count me as a shooter. I would fill in if there is a man short to get the 5 you need but not a big deal for me. </div></div>

As of right now this is a no go. No PMs interested in doing yet. One PM volunteering to help CKA.

Jamie
 
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Seems a bit steep for 1 day of range use. Nice distance though, I'm sure you guys with 2 and 3 GAP rifles have no problem ponying up which is why I'm sure he is booked several months out.
 
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Trust me, none of us started out with 2 or 3 custom rifles, Rem 700 PSS, SuperSniper Scopes were the norm, CKA will teach how to reload safely, show you how to work up a load for your weapon, then go to the range and teach the basics of marksmanship, many of his customers have hit golf balls at 6-700 yards with there rifle shooting there reloads, the price is pretty cheap for what you get.