Not Bartlein Barrels

[roostercogburn98]

Frank,

Looked on your site, and have looked around the interwebs for a few days. Do you make a CF 7mm barrel with a finish length off 18”?

 

[Frank Green]

Frank,

Looked on your site, and have looked around the interwebs for a few days. Do you make a CF 7mm barrel with a finish length off 18”?

Nobody is going to carry one like that to my knowledge.

Can we make you a 18" finish length/19" blank 7mm in cf? Yep. Only contours we offer are our #4, #13 rem. varmint and the #14 M24/M40 contour.

email us at....

[email protected]

Later, Frank

 

[roostercogburn98]

Thank you sir, will get my ducks in a row and reach out.

 

[Totoro]

Hats off to Frank the fellas in the shop!

Takes some fortitude to call a spade a spade in an open forum; people these days trying to pull on over off another.

Shady shit business and shame on those builders that pass off wears as such.

I've gotten into the habit of having the riflesmith cut 1/8" off the breech end so to keep the serial number number and barrel info intact for reference.

Not to mention it makes a pretty cool challenge coin to boot!

@ TC, funny shit there, funny shit!

 

[MrBlond]

I agree with outing the gunsmith/shop publicly after 100% confirmation they purposely screwed the customer over. Might make others think twice.

^^^^^^^^^^
And stop somebody else from getting scammed.

 

[TimResin]

And this is why george aka GAP have built me 2 rifles and my dad 4. can't stand rip off artists

 

[JeffLebowski]

I hope the builders get named.

 

[Dirty D]

What a bullshit move to pull. Can't believe it was "an honest mistake" on their part.

Those guys need a 100 bags of dicks mailed to them
(not the tasty gummy bear dicks but the inedible Chinese plastic dicks....)

.

How are they supposed to eat a dick if you send them the inedible ones, that’s just rude!

 

[schmi015]

If you order funky contours its harder for your smith to screw you

 

[BurtG]

Frank,

Looked on your site, and have looked around the interwebs for a few days. Do you make a CF 7mm barrel with a finish length off 18”?

You save weight in longer barrels with cf.

Don’t think you will save much over steel with a 18”

 

[Digetydog]

Man, if I were one of those end user customers id be pissed at the gunsmiths. Wtf!

I would filing a lawsuit under the Texas DTPA seeking trebel damages plus attorney's fees Fraud would be the other count.

 

[Frank Green]

I hope the builders get named.

You don't know how bad at times I really want to! Then it turns into a major pissing match....slander and such...

In the end though the customer is still eating it. That's the shitty part!

 

[Frank Green]

I would filing a lawsuit under the Texas DTPA seeking trenel damages plus attorney's fees Fraud would be the other count.

I wish all states where that way!

 

[Digetydog]

I wish all states where that way!

Most states have similar laws.

Just look for the Deceptive Trade Practices Act. The details do matter so if you are interested, talk to an attorney.

 

[ShtrRdy]

@Frank Green -- I've been using your recommendation of removing a bronze brush after if exits the muzzle and then putting it back on the cleaning rod for another pass. But I was wondering how you feel about when using a nylon brush to scrub the barrel allowing the nylon brush to change directions while still in the bore?

Thanks -- Todd

 

[Frank Green]

@Frank Green -- I've been using your recommendation of removing a bronze brush after if exits the muzzle and then putting it back on the cleaning rod for another pass. But I was wondering how you feel about when using a nylon brush to scrub the barrel allowing the nylon brush to change directions while still in the bore?

Thanks -- Todd

The nylon isn't as aggressive as a bronze brush so I'm cool with that.

Again though...no abrasive cleaner and flush the brush once in a while.

 

[davere]

@Frank Green mentioned asking for the serial number - another option is to just ask the gunsmith to part off the serial number info and send it to you with the barrel/gun. Trivial to do on a lathe before they start to cut the tenon, etc. Then you get a 1.25" "coin" with the barrel info on it. They could still send you a fake barrel, but it's more work (they'd have to part it off *something* legit... or they'd have to try to counterfeit Bartlein's marks, etc)

 

[Malum Prohibitum]

I hope the builders get named.

You don't know how bad at times I really want to! Then it turns into a major pissing match....slander and such...

In the end though the customer is still eating it. That's the shitty part!

Who knows how many more times this builder has continued to pull this - maybe on some of us?

 

[LeftyJason]

Just saw this posted by someone here with out a Supporter account in one of the knowledge sections. They are out there. Post was reported. Stay vigilant friends.

 

[AllenOne1]

The 5" or longer part is interesting.

 

[Mudflap621]

The 5" or longer part is interesting.

That’s the part I’d expect someone that’s learning to cut to want. They have absolutely no use for the marking side other than the reason this thread was started.

 

[AllenOne1]

That’s the part I’d expect someone that’s learning to cut to want. They have absolutely no use for the marking side other than the reason this thread was started.

Exactly! It makes sense but it doesn't make sense.

 

[LeftyJason]

Exactly! It makes sense but it doesn't make sense.

Or that part was to try to cover up the wanting the coins.

 

[338dude]

Good on you for helping someone out that is in that position. Although, most manufacturers wouldn't work on someone else's product. But again, kudos to you.

One of the shitty aspects about someone slipping in fake/counterfeit barrels is "how much money can you make by doing it ?". Certainly not enough to make it worth the bother. Or, maybe it is to the worst of the worst greedy scheisters.

Can't remember any numbers, but I've bought directly from Bartlein and from Greg/SPR. Easy peasy. Of course, no issues, ever.

Frank, thank you and your team for really nice products.

I bought 4 bartlein’s from Greg Young at Southern precision rifle’s. Every one was a shooter!

 

[Frank Green]

Just saw this posted by someone here with out a Supporter account in one of the knowledge sections. They are out there. Post was reported. Stay vigilant friends.
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WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Frank Green]

A couple of people posted questions to us about confirming if the barrel they have are legit or not from overseas. I asked one guy....we didn't sell the barrel to you. Where did you get it from? He wouldn't tell me but told me on the secondary market they are going for up to $3900!

I think our prices are to low?

 

[davere]

He wouldn't tell me but told me on the secondary market they are going for up to $3900!

I think our prices are to low?

I got a couple sitting here I'll sell at that price! LOL

 

[Edds]

A couple of people posted questions to us about confirming if the barrel they have are legit or not from overseas. I asked one guy....we didn't sell the barrel to you. Where did you get it from? He wouldn't tell me but told me on the secondary market they are going for up to $3900!

I think our prices are to low?

I have three new Bartlein blanks. I would sell one of them for half that price. The other two aren't for sale.

 

[Frank Green]

I got a couple sitting here I'll sell at that price! LOL

You would have to get export approval and ship them overseas! Small hang up!

 

[BuildingConceptsllc]

Hey @Frank Green , did you find out more about that coating? Or did I just miss it?

 

[Frank Green]

Hey @Frank Green , did you find out more about that coating? Or did I just miss it?

No. I have a barrel here to play with but the world is imploding around us. No time right now to dig into it deeper.

I will try and make a phone call today to the place that does the coating so hang loose.

 

[BuildingConceptsllc]

No. I have a barrel here to play with but the world is imploding around us. No time right now to dig into it deeper.

I will try and make a phone call today to the place that does the coating so hang loose.

Right on. Thank you sir. I know you have your hands full and things are crazy

 

[Chris1972]

Can anyone tell me how to decode these serial numbers? I’m having some doubts on a barrel and a sketchy story from the smith.

 

[Simonsza1]

I’ve never once in many decades have I had a smith I’ve used not send back the coin with all the info on it. Never asked for it buts been in the box every time. I use reputable smiths but I feel like this should be expected.

 

[Chris1972]

Oh I got the coin. Long story and I’ll tell it in full if I find out the smith is playing games.

 

[acudaowner]

here's to hopping my ordered Bartlein Barrel is what Altus Shooting Solutions say's it is . My first time ordering through them very excited to get it , it will be my third bartlein barrel for my gun so far .

 

[XTREM HTR16]

here's to hopping my ordered Bartlein Barrel is what Altus Shooting Solutions say's it is . My first time ordering through them very excited to get it , it will be my third bartlein barrel for my gun so far .

IMO you will have no issues with Altus, they are a great honest dealer and company.

 

[ShtrRdy]

Call or email the barrel company and ask them if the serial number matches their records.

 

[b6graham]

and see if the coin even matches the barrel (twist, rifling)

 

[cooper_257]

here's to hopping my ordered Bartlein Barrel is what Altus Shooting Solutions say's it is . My first time ordering through them very excited to get it , it will be my third bartlein barrel for my gun so far .

Altus is great! It should be a hammer.

 

[Corfius]

A couple of people posted questions to us about confirming if the barrel they have are legit or not from overseas. I asked one guy....we didn't sell the barrel to you. Where did you get it from? He wouldn't tell me but told me on the secondary market they are going for up to $3900!

I think our prices are to low?

Not surprised. Here in Canada handguns are basically banned but a new glock will sell for around 5k on the street. Needless to say business is booming for smugglers.

Anyway that would suck buying a fake Bartlein up north but a customer would most likely never know. It's damn near impossible to ship a gun in the US from here and just as hard getting it shipped back.

 

[Malum Prohibitum]

here's to hopping my ordered Bartlein Barrel is what Altus Shooting Solutions say's it is . My first time ordering through them very excited to get it , it will be my third bartlein barrel for my gun so far .

Frank Green told me not to worry about Altus