Why don't scope manufacturers start making the tubes in an octagonal shape instead of round? Then rings could be the same way and you would never have to mess with leveling a scope when mounting it. Every time I install a scope I get pissed because there's got to be a better way. Even with all the fancy levels, vises, and tools....it still sucks.
Rifle Scopes Octagonal tubes?
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You just gave me a vision of a world where all the great optic manufacturers all made a different shape tube (could it even be called that?) with their proprietary triangle, square, pentagonal, and various other shapes lol.
But for real, how sure are you that your receiver, base, and rings are perfectly vertical?
Not to mention the cost of manufacturing a heptagonal tube.
Sent from my SCH-I500
But for real, how sure are you that your receiver, base, and rings are perfectly vertical?
Not to mention the cost of manufacturing a heptagonal tube.
Sent from my SCH-I500
Yup...octagonal (or any other variation of squared/angular scope tubes) is a solution looking for a problem. I hear that the R&D into octagonal scope tubes may have ultimately led to the demise of the brain trust at CounterSniper/DarkOps. 
Sad...so, so, SOOO sad.
Look, scope mounting isn't rocket science and after you have done several over the years on a variety of rifles/optics/mounts, it becomes more instinctive, quicker and easier each time.
Sad...so, so, SOOO sad. Look, scope mounting isn't rocket science and after you have done several over the years on a variety of rifles/optics/mounts, it becomes more instinctive, quicker and easier each time.
Interesting idea, but I don't think it would make up for the hastle of companies making different mounting devises for them and the added cost of retooling the machines to make a pentagonal scope tube. Just as ORD said a solution with no problem. At least not a prolem big enouph that warrents going that route.
Not to mention that round is a lot stronger! With no corners, it has no weakness or load direction limitations... Remington tried something like this afew years ago, remeber the triangle barrels?
Why not just make it square?
The more scopes you mount the faster and easier it gets.
Not to mention the extra adjustment room you'd have. Max windage and elevation adjustment would then have the "corners" to move into rather than getting hung up on the internal radius of a round tube.
Ziess has done octagonal tubes on some of there anniversary modells, they did not sell, nor where they easy to mount on rifles, btw they had internal rails but still they were not easy to deal with.
Is there such a thing as a good idea, bad result? Best regards Chris
Is there such a thing as a good idea, bad result? Best regards Chris
It would be a bit difficult to get an octagon shape in a lathe, with even tube thickness... and if you use extruded stock, then you cannot make the main tuve (complete with turret bases) one piece.
Leveling scopes easy by focusing on plumb line. Has always worked perfectly for me. No need to try to reinvent the wheel!
Sadness....:
NC Star Octagon series scope
I stumbled across this while looking for a rifle bag today...
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NC Star Octagon series scope
I stumbled across this while looking for a rifle bag today...
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Not sure if you guys are just joking around, but are you being serious? The reticle would still need to be adjusted to the center line of the bore.
Draw a plumb line at least 4 feet in length on a backer board 100 yards away, put a 1" inch dot at the bottom, fire one shot at the dot, then while still aiming at the 1" dot move the elevation turret up in any amount you wish as long as it at least 1' (3.5 Mils or 12 MOA) and shot again each time. Keep shooting until you've bullet holes up to the four foot mark. The POI should remain in the same vertical line path, if it moves left to right you will need to turn the scope (very very small amounts) in the rings counterclockwise or clockwise if right to left. This will insure as you dial out long range your scope will track with the bullet path. A Square scopes wont allow you to do this!
Draw a plumb line at least 4 feet in length on a backer board 100 yards away, put a 1" inch dot at the bottom, fire one shot at the dot, then while still aiming at the 1" dot move the elevation turret up in any amount you wish as long as it at least 1' (3.5 Mils or 12 MOA) and shot again each time. Keep shooting until you've bullet holes up to the four foot mark. The POI should remain in the same vertical line path, if it moves left to right you will need to turn the scope (very very small amounts) in the rings counterclockwise or clockwise if right to left. This will insure as you dial out long range your scope will track with the bullet path. A Square scopes wont allow you to do this!
Nice!
Great glass + sniper reticle + dual illumination + rubber armour = Operator as fuck!!!
If only i could afford it.
Because while a cylinder clamped with a cylindrical bore will naturally accommodate some mismatch between the dimensions of the mating parts, male and female polygonal mating components would have to be perfectly matched.
This is a myth.
I've tested every scope I've owned, S&B, March, Steiner, Bushnell ET, Zeiss Diavari, and many more, and the erector never comes anywhere near contacting the inside of the main tube; the travel is limited by mechanical limits built into the turret screw shafts, and the extents of the erector travel form a rectangle with sharp corners. Look down the objective of any scope you own with a flashlight and you can see the pads on the end of the turret screw shafts screws where they contact the erector tube.
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