Official (DTA) SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

[ney1]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

3rdgss,
I understand your frustration and appreciate the feedback. I will make a note of your recommendation on the mid-length magazine.

Thanks

Nick

 

[Guns4570]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

Jr returns home from visiting the factory. Yeap, the SRS left the house as an SRS and will return as a Covert. Can't wait, just got the shipping notice on my phone its inbound. Now what to do for glass? SS 5-20, USO (in the safe) or a Vortex Razor EBR2B? Better figure it out quick. Oh yeah or the IOR 2.5-10 FFP sitting on the safe is an option too to keep her light.

 

[Guns4570]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

Ok SRS came back from DTA wearing a new Covert forward rail and 308 caliber conversion. I was no happy with the idea of the new round bolt handle as mine are both the first generation with the Badger like tear frop knob. After using the bolt a few times I like it better may have to upgrade the other caliber convs to the round knob. I am removing the USO and installing a IOR 2.5-10 mil/mil in an Aadmount to save some weight and I like the combo. Can not wait to sight her in this holiday weekend. I love all custom rifles but I have to say I have a DTA bug big time. I love bullpups.

 

[BirdmanOz]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

Does anyone have any suggestions and pictures of alternative mounts and rings to the DTA option? I have a 42 objective on my March scope and i reckon it might sit up a little high with the DTA mount / ring combo. Any advice would be helpful.

 

[dworrel]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

I may get blasted for this, but Burris makes Zee rings with spacers that give you 20 MOA of elevation. They are not tactical rings by any stretch of the imagination, but I have used them without a problem on hunting rifles.

Much cheaper.

 

[dworrel]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

I am awaiting my DTA SRS and am interested in getting a suppressor. I am getting the 300 WM, 308 Win, and looking at having a 6.5 CM and 7 WSM built by Mark at Short Action Customs.

I may get a 338LM barrel at some point.

Do you get the DTA 338 suppressor and use it for all calibers? I've heard good things about the TBAC 30P-1.

Is the only difference between the Covert and the SRS the front rail?

 

[mouse07410]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

Barrel Extension question.

I'm told that there's a new design of barrel extension on the (new?) DTA Covert.

When (if

) I order a new caliber conversion kit (or just a new barrel), do I need to specify anything besides that I need it for SRS? I sure hope DTA still supports/provides the "old" (pin-indexed) barrel extension?

Tnx!

 

[gstaylorg]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

Mouse,
Here's some pics of the extension on the 16" 8-twist that came with the Covert. Notice the larger "notch" (as opposed to a pin slot) for alignment. As far as your question, better contact DTA on that to be sure.

 

[PRDRIVER]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

I have been told that all new production Covert and SRS rifles will use the same barrel extension previously used by the Covert.

 

[BirdmanOz]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

Does that mean that any older SRS won't be able to use new barrel conversion kits? Hope not otherwise il be expecting a free upgrade to my rifle.

 

[mouse07410]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BirdmanOz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does that mean that any older SRS won't be able to use new barrel conversion kits?</div></div>
This is my understanding precisely. The "interface" between the barrel extension and the receiver is now different (incompatible). Pictures posted by gstaylorg show that (instead of a pin-slot there's a wide notch now).

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...otherwise I'll be expecting a free upgrade to my rifle.</div></div>
Well, let's hear what Nick has to say about all of this.

I agree that indexing by a wide notch is more reliable in the field and preferred to indexing by a pin. This is a design improvement.

I wonder where it leaves those of us who bought the older rifles <span style="text-decoration: underline">and caliber conversions</span>, wrt. getting new calibers (e.g. I've been considering 260 Rem), service, etc. etc.

DTA, we know you're listening. Speak up please!

 

[Ewen]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

Hi guys, (as I understand it), in the future all chassis will move to the new barrel extension system, however there are still barrel extensions with the old system and these can be attached to any calibre conversion kit. So dont worry if you have a pin system, you can still get new barrels and calibres etc.

regards

Ewen

 

[Guns4570]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

Guys if you have an older SRS and want a new barrel, they have tons of the old barrel extensions for warranty work put a side and can make more when the time warrants it they need them. I had my SRS made into a Covert and they used a barrel extension set aside for warranty to make the conversion for me. Hhope that helps.

 

[PRDRIVER]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

Owners of the SRS with the previous style barrel extensions will still be able to get new barrel conversions with the older style barrel extensions.

 

[BirdmanOz]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

Just as long as they are made readily available to the Australian distributor as well. We have a habit of being second class citizens down here and just because they are available in the USA doesn't mean the Aussie distributor will bring them in. I'll be mighty pissed if I can't upgrade to a new barrel in a few years time because the 308 has been shot out. It would make the rifle worthless.

So are we talking long term support ( 5 to 10 years ) of old barrels or is there a sunset? Having access to old warranty stock is not a solution.

 

[Ewen]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

Hi Birdman,

Dont panic, I am sure your distributor will keep a couple on the shelf, and as posted above, this isnt ust old stock, as and when it runs out DTA can easily get more.

A second point to remember though is that if this is just to replace a shot out barrel then the barrel extension will be reusable and you would not need a new one...

regards

Ewen

 

[ney1]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

Guys we are guarenteeing that the old barrel extensions will be available for 20 years as that is what some of our military contracts are written for. We tried to figure out a way to retrofit old guns with the new feedramp but their just wasn't enough meat on the receiver where it needed to be so we can't.

The only difference is the new barrel extension index off the feedramp so that it cannot be damaged if the barrel is slammed down into the receiver. The old ones aligned off a pin that could be damaged but was easily replaceable. Both versions shoot and cycle the same. Any new caliber additions will be available for both types. The new guns that use the feedramp alignment design start with SRS at the beginning of their serial number. The old pin guns start with DTA at the beginning of their serial number.

 

[mouse07410]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ewen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am sure your distributor will keep a couple on the shelf...</div></div>
Some of us bought from nice but small - maybe online-only - shops that do not keep any stock at hand. Some may not <span style="text-decoration: underline">have</span> any shelves. Expecting them to stock up parts would be unrealistic. But as explained by DTA - thankfully it doesn't matter.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sr90</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Guys we are guaranteeing that the old barrel extensions will be available for 20 years as that is what some of our military contracts are written for..........
Both versions shoot and cycle the same. Any new caliber additions will be available for both types.
</div></div>
<span style="font-weight: bold">Thank</span> you! Exactly what I hoped to hear. You're great!

P.S. And you've answered other questions I was going to ask. Tnx!

 

[BirdmanOz]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

Agreed. That's very comforting to hear.

 

[BirdmanOz]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

Anyone got pointers on how to adjust the trigger. I can see two adjusting screws from bottom. One behind the trigger and one in front. No so worried about adjusting travel but want to lighten up the pull. ??

 

[BirdmanOz]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

My DTA arrived yesterday. Awesome rifle. Range time this weekend for sure. Pics below

 

[Guns4570]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

Instructions for adjusting the trigger are in the owners manual along with pictures and instructions about anything else you may have questions have.

 

[gstaylorg]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

I'd get yourself a decent trigger pull gauge, if you don't already have one. IIRC, my Covert came with the trigger set at very close to 4.0 lb. I lightened that up a tad, so it is now at 2.5 lb. However, I wouldn't indiscriminately adjust it without a pull gauge.

 

[mcfred]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Th

DTA eeen Russia:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHtHE_ukpug

(I guess they don't have ear plugs there?)

 

[BirdmanOz]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Th

Out of interest, does anyone know where the DTA is currently deployed around the world for military use?

 

[trilogymac]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Th

Has anyone done a 30-06 on a DTA yet? If so how did you modify the mags?

Thanks,
Trilogymac

 

[Guns4570]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Th

You could theoretically use the 300WM magazines and a 308 bolt face and make it work but I am not sure the mags would hold the 06 rounds as they should be held for reliable feeding.

 

[bward]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Th

You will have to remove the plate in the middle of the 308 mag and replace the spring and follower with one from the 338 magazines.

 

[phlii]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Th

Speaking of magazines, does anyone know who has the best price for them?

 

[bward]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Th

I'm fairly sure DTA is the only source for them.

 

[Guns4570]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Th

Yeah mags for the SRS are strictly a DTA affair.

 

[bailey1474]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Th

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: trilogymac</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Has anyone done a 30-06 on a DTA yet? If so how did you modify the mags?

Thanks,
Trilogymac </div></div>

See my post above on the 284 win. You will have to do the same thing. The 338/300 mags will not work.

 

[ney1]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Th

Many have asked for more information about the production HTI rifles. We will have sneak peak pictures of the new production HTI rifles very soon. Meanwhile here are two groups that we fired when we were out last saturday shooting the 50bmg conversion kit.

HTI group#1
HTI group#2

 

[Dogtown]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Th

Looks like those pics are linked to Facebook...republished:

 

[ney1]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Th

Thanks Dogtown, I got lazy and didn't want to republish the images somewhere else. LOL

 

[Bruiser_Joe]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Th

Nick getting lazy for us Snipershide fools (shaking head)

. your only running a company you got guys like mike and russ for shit like this, lmao.

 

[goloud]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Th

Nick,

What distance were those groups shot at?

- Loud

 

[Ewen]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Th

The link mentions the range 500M

Ewen

 

[ney1]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Th

500 meters is correct. Only fired twelve rounds total two were zeroing shots then I fired a record 5 shot group and then my production engineer fired another 5 shot group. He is posing with the hti next to his target.

 

[gstaylorg]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Th

I'm guessing that beast is not quite as stealthy (or lightweight) as my Covert (LOL). But if I had access to a range that allowed 50 BMG, boy would I love to have one (HTI in 50 BMG)! Thanks for the preview!

 

[Dogtown]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Th

Wouldn't that be cool? A .50BMG Covert

All the more reason to make the handguard modular.

 

[ney1]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Th

As many of you know we’ve been developing the HTI for 1.5 years. We know everyone is eager to get their hands on one and production units are still planned to start shipping late summer. We could have released the first generation of fully functional HTI's to market last year but we wanted to make them even better! Taming the mighty 50bmg in such a light and compact package was a challenge in itself. We are excited to show off some of the changes that will show up on the soon to be released production guns.

Our proprietary muzzlebrake was designed to minimize recoil without spewing gases into the shooters face. We also added a padded adjustable cheekpiece to allow optimum comfort and protection. We redesigned the buttpad to be softer and more ergonomic, the hand guard was lengthened to allow attachment of the latest generation of night and thermal sights, the overall stock chassis ergonomics were improved and strengthened. In summary the improvements substantially reduce recoil, increase the accuracy, and improve the rifles ergonomics.

 

[Dogtown]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Th

<drooling>

 

[ChrisF]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Th


HI Guys ,

Whats the story with the diferent bolt knobs ? , are they just diferent ends or is the actual steel handle diferent also ?

Cheers Chris

 

[ney1]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Th

Production hti rifles will have round polymer knob identical to the one on the srs.

 

[mrjimsfc]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Th

Lookin Good! Where is that place you were sighting in and shooting at? Out by Grantsville?

 

[ney1]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Th

One exit west of Grantsville exit. Saw a 5' blow snake out their last time we shot, actually I accidentally ran it over with my truck so we had to kill it.

 

[Mute]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Th

That looks great Nick! I was already impressed with the HTI when I saw it 2 years ago at SHOT.

 

[2shoot1kill]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Th

I'm trying to mount a USO Sn3 3-17 with EREK knob using the DTA 34mm mount. It is a real tight fit, so tight that the EREK knob bottoms out on the back ring.

Anyone else running this setup? WHat did you do to clear the EREK knob?

 

[ChrisF]

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Th


No , my questions was aimed at the 1st SRS rifles in 308-338LM in which all the pics I see are with a Tapered/ teardrop shaped knob , and do the new ball knobs fit the older SRS rifles ?

Cheers Chris