Older rifles and Annie help

RichS

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Okie dokie guys,
I've posted over on RFC and ARF but I thought I'd post it here too (you can never have too much info). Anyway, I'm looking into getting another accurate .22. Initially I was looking at a PWS T3 Summit or an Annie 64. Then someone recommended, "what about some older rifles?". So I'm now also considering a Win52 or a Rem 513-T. Problem is, I'm not to up on the older rifles and I'm not sure what to look for. Once upon a time I had a H&R M12 and I loved it and it shot reallly well....that being said, it was a bit of a pig and like a dumbass I sold it.

My main criteria are that it be accurate, a repeater, and not too heavy. If'n I go for an older rifle, what do I look for (or run away from) in a Win 52 or 513-T? As to sighting options I did enjoy the Redfield Olympics on the M12, so if I get an older rifle with peeps, I might just keep 'em. If I go with the Annie or PWS and optic is in order. I don't compete, but I do like a very accurate gun for fun precision "plinking"

The biggest thing for me going agaist the old-school rifles is part (or lack of) availability. Are the 52 and 513 plentiful enough for that to not be an issue?

So, in a nutshell, which would you pick and why? As you can see, I'm torn...my breakdown...

PWS T3 Summit....PROS: Light, really accurate, great trigger, cool biathlon style action, takes (plentiful) Ruger 10/22 parts. CONS: needs optic, "new kid" and don't know much about it.
Annie 64SBR... PROS: 20" stiff barrel, Anschutz accuracy (and brand appeal), parts not an issue. CONS: needs optic, $$$
Win 52...PROS: legendary, accurate, good irons (the three I'm looking at have either factory with Vaver insert, marble Goss, or factory) CONS: heavy, has a cult following and I'm not in the "cult". Don't know much about it. Parts?
Rem 513-T...PROS: not as legendary (therefore less expensive), lighter than 52, accurate CONS: Don't know much about it. Parts availability?

Help me here...
 
there's the win 52's, kimber 82's, remington 5teens (matchmasters), 540's and 580's series that have target models that'll fit the bill. look up any parts (extra mags, springs, etc) on wideners or numrichs for each and see what you come up with. you may have to sacrifice the repeater requirement on a few of the older target models.

when talking older .22's, there's no shortage of them. even the ol' savage / sears / stevens / marlin rifles can do a good group, though less "romantic" than the previously mentioned.

another thing to decide on...bolt, pump, lever, tube fed, semi?

what about a new old looking rifle like a CZ military trainer, mannlicher, or ultra lux?

if you find one of these: The M2 Springfield for a low price, that would be the $hit.

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If you go the Win 52 route, no reason to worry about parts. I have shot them steadily for over 40 years and never had need of any part. No idea the # of rounds, but many..
Get one with a good bore and you are all done. It will shoot as well as the ammo you put in it will.
 
Some good recomendations here. I would look hard at the Rem 541T either sporter or heavy barrel. They shoot exceptionally well and a nice one can still be had for $600-$650. Unless I missed something in the original post, why not a CZ 452 etc? They are probably one of the best bargains out there for a good quality rimfire repeater.