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Re: olympic
I have an older version Olympic Ultra match and it is a great rifle and very accurate. It also have the best trigger of any of my AR's and it came that way from Olympic. I wouldn't hesitate to get another Olympic if the price was right.
I have an older version Olympic Ultra match and it is a great rifle and very accurate. It also have the best trigger of any of my AR's and it came that way from Olympic. I wouldn't hesitate to get another Olympic if the price was right.
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If you spend in a hurry on this you'll regret it. The way the economy is, you can't assume that you'll be able to re-sell without taking a a big loss if it turns out you don't like it, or want something else later.
$200 seems a bit low for a "decent" scope, unless you're talking a real basic fixed power with a plain reticle. For comparison, you can pick up a new Super Sniper w/ mount for $300, and have something that is perfectly functional and durable and not a waste of money by any means. I'm sure there are a ton of "what is the highest quality scope I can get for $300" threads over in the optics section.
A red dot is a different matter, but for the $200 you'd be much better off putting that into the rifle rather than into a red dot in that range. $1000 will get you a top quality brand new AR-15; $800, and you either need to take your time and find a great deal, or cut corners.
If you're looking to cut corners on the budget and you can't assemble it yourself, your best bet is probably to keep an eye out on the for-sale forums. A lot of guys are unloading new and like new uppers for pretty cheap. It's not hard to find GOOD uppers, like new in box, for the same price or less than many CHEAP uppers are selling for, retail.
You might do something like this -
Find a good deal on a new or like new complete upper from a good company - $500
Get a lower, just about any will do - $250
That leaves $250 ... you can probably squeeze a basic, but good quality scope in there. Don't try to buy bells and whistles that you just can't afford (variable power, illumination, etc).
There really has never been a better time to buy or build an AR, you just have to make good decisions. It would not be unreasonable to be able to get a lower in whatever brand you want, an upper from some place like Bravo Company, Colt, or LMT, and a Super Sniper w/ mount for $1050 (minus shipping).
If you spend in a hurry on this you'll regret it. The way the economy is, you can't assume that you'll be able to re-sell without taking a a big loss if it turns out you don't like it, or want something else later.
$200 seems a bit low for a "decent" scope, unless you're talking a real basic fixed power with a plain reticle. For comparison, you can pick up a new Super Sniper w/ mount for $300, and have something that is perfectly functional and durable and not a waste of money by any means. I'm sure there are a ton of "what is the highest quality scope I can get for $300" threads over in the optics section.
A red dot is a different matter, but for the $200 you'd be much better off putting that into the rifle rather than into a red dot in that range. $1000 will get you a top quality brand new AR-15; $800, and you either need to take your time and find a great deal, or cut corners.
If you're looking to cut corners on the budget and you can't assemble it yourself, your best bet is probably to keep an eye out on the for-sale forums. A lot of guys are unloading new and like new uppers for pretty cheap. It's not hard to find GOOD uppers, like new in box, for the same price or less than many CHEAP uppers are selling for, retail.
You might do something like this -
Find a good deal on a new or like new complete upper from a good company - $500
Get a lower, just about any will do - $250
That leaves $250 ... you can probably squeeze a basic, but good quality scope in there. Don't try to buy bells and whistles that you just can't afford (variable power, illumination, etc).
There really has never been a better time to buy or build an AR, you just have to make good decisions. It would not be unreasonable to be able to get a lower in whatever brand you want, an upper from some place like Bravo Company, Colt, or LMT, and a Super Sniper w/ mount for $1050 (minus shipping).
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Oly makes good rifles there heavy varmint are good barrels for a factory barrel. You wont be disspointed. you may know all ready but if your going to use it for hunting/target shooting or accuracy is what your after then stay away from chromed lined barrels. go with a stainless or chrome molly barrrel. Chrome lined are designed for sustained fire and the accuracy is not as good as the ones mention aboved. Hope this helps
Oly makes good rifles there heavy varmint are good barrels for a factory barrel. You wont be disspointed. you may know all ready but if your going to use it for hunting/target shooting or accuracy is what your after then stay away from chromed lined barrels. go with a stainless or chrome molly barrrel. Chrome lined are designed for sustained fire and the accuracy is not as good as the ones mention aboved. Hope this helps
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Oly's UM and SUM are excellent, accurate barrels; but the rest of the gun is very crude and roughly made.
The parts are serviceable, but the finishing work is very rough, Oly makes almost all parts in-house, unlike most other makers.
This gives them the opportunity to make some unique firearms (the WSSM, for instance, which I own), but, compared to most other makers, their guns are kinda hit or miss on quality, depending on whether it was made on Tuesday or Friday.
I filed, stoned and polished on my Oly 3x as long as my other AR's to get it to an acceptable level (to me) of finish on the parts and pieces. I also had to fix the mags for proper function.
Oly's UM and SUM are excellent, accurate barrels; but the rest of the gun is very crude and roughly made.
The parts are serviceable, but the finishing work is very rough, Oly makes almost all parts in-house, unlike most other makers.
This gives them the opportunity to make some unique firearms (the WSSM, for instance, which I own), but, compared to most other makers, their guns are kinda hit or miss on quality, depending on whether it was made on Tuesday or Friday.
I filed, stoned and polished on my Oly 3x as long as my other AR's to get it to an acceptable level (to me) of finish on the parts and pieces. I also had to fix the mags for proper function.
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The reason the SUM barrel is so accurate is it's rifle cut and the chamber is minimum saami specs -- so really tight chamber and it's a .223 (and not 5.56mm NATO). Great for match shooting, but too tight for field use IMHO (i.e., reliability) , and real or not, I don't want to be running NATO ammo or in the field with a gun like that. There are always trade offs - so it pays to do your homework.
The reason the SUM barrel is so accurate is it's rifle cut and the chamber is minimum saami specs -- so really tight chamber and it's a .223 (and not 5.56mm NATO). Great for match shooting, but too tight for field use IMHO (i.e., reliability) , and real or not, I don't want to be running NATO ammo or in the field with a gun like that. There are always trade offs - so it pays to do your homework.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hellbender</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Oly's UM and SUM are excellent, accurate barrels; but the rest of the gun is very crude and roughly made.
The parts are serviceable, but the finishing work is very rough, Oly makes almost all parts in-house, unlike most other makers.
This gives them the opportunity to make some unique firearms (the WSSM, for instance, which I own), but, compared to most other makers, their guns are kinda hit or miss on quality, depending on whether it was made on Tuesday or Friday.
I filed, stoned and polished on my Oly 3x as long as my other AR's to get it to an acceptable level (to me) of finish on the parts and pieces. I also had to fix the mags for proper function.</div></div>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sniper81</div><div class="ubbcode-body">if i cared what my guns look like i wouldnt have any, im more interested in the accuracy of the k16 not the looks</div></div>
Why would you want to buy a Rifle from some company that does not care about the quality of their parts ? Oly has gotten better but is still a POS company IMHO.They are the "Hometown Boys" here in WA yet nobody I PERSONALLY KNOW will touch them with a Barge Pole.Good luck with them !!!!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hellbender</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Oly's UM and SUM are excellent, accurate barrels; but the rest of the gun is very crude and roughly made.
The parts are serviceable, but the finishing work is very rough, Oly makes almost all parts in-house, unlike most other makers.
This gives them the opportunity to make some unique firearms (the WSSM, for instance, which I own), but, compared to most other makers, their guns are kinda hit or miss on quality, depending on whether it was made on Tuesday or Friday.
I filed, stoned and polished on my Oly 3x as long as my other AR's to get it to an acceptable level (to me) of finish on the parts and pieces. I also had to fix the mags for proper function.</div></div>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sniper81</div><div class="ubbcode-body">if i cared what my guns look like i wouldnt have any, im more interested in the accuracy of the k16 not the looks</div></div>
Why would you want to buy a Rifle from some company that does not care about the quality of their parts ? Oly has gotten better but is still a POS company IMHO.They are the "Hometown Boys" here in WA yet nobody I PERSONALLY KNOW will touch them with a Barge Pole.Good luck with them !!!!
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These guys started out among the big three AR makers as the "chrysler" of AR's (cheapest ones you could get of the big 3). Cast (not forged) lowers and poor reputation for quality. I've done business with them one time, and that was about 5 years ago and it would be my last. I do not know how much (if any) they've changed. There is a website called OLY ARMS owners, if you have any questions about the product line - that's where you will find all the Oly guru's.
These guys started out among the big three AR makers as the "chrysler" of AR's (cheapest ones you could get of the big 3). Cast (not forged) lowers and poor reputation for quality. I've done business with them one time, and that was about 5 years ago and it would be my last. I do not know how much (if any) they've changed. There is a website called OLY ARMS owners, if you have any questions about the product line - that's where you will find all the Oly guru's.
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When I had an ffl I did a little business with olympic arms. Their top of the line barrels were very accurate but they drilled way too big of a gas port in them. The rest of their parts were junk and slightly above junk. They had a habit of sending milsurp M16A1 parts in an AR15A2 kit.
I have never seen worse customer service than olympic arms and never been treated so badly. I wouldn't buy a $5 bill from them for 50 cents.
When I had an ffl I did a little business with olympic arms. Their top of the line barrels were very accurate but they drilled way too big of a gas port in them. The rest of their parts were junk and slightly above junk. They had a habit of sending milsurp M16A1 parts in an AR15A2 kit.
I have never seen worse customer service than olympic arms and never been treated so badly. I wouldn't buy a $5 bill from them for 50 cents.
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I personally love mine I've had it almost a year, put about 2500 rounds down her only one hiccup and I'm pretty sure that was the ammo. People here are complaining about issues with them, but I've never had one.
I personally love mine I've had it almost a year, put about 2500 rounds down her only one hiccup and I'm pretty sure that was the ammo. People here are complaining about issues with them, but I've never had one.
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Oly is what Oly is.
I can't imagine they're all that happy with the new competition around lately. While it's true that they're "good enough" for fun or target shooting and have a reputation for being acccurate (if not reliable), there is increasingly little reason to get an Olympic Arms rifle, or in many cases even a Bushy, DPMS, or RRA. The savings aren't there compared to other options, and you don't have to pay a Colt premium anymore to get a rifle made without shortcuts.
Oly is what Oly is.
I can't imagine they're all that happy with the new competition around lately. While it's true that they're "good enough" for fun or target shooting and have a reputation for being acccurate (if not reliable), there is increasingly little reason to get an Olympic Arms rifle, or in many cases even a Bushy, DPMS, or RRA. The savings aren't there compared to other options, and you don't have to pay a Colt premium anymore to get a rifle made without shortcuts.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sniper81</div><div class="ubbcode-body">if i cared what my guns look like i wouldnt have any, im more interested in the accuracy of the k16 not the looks </div></div>
It's not the looks I'm concerned about at all (but they are ugly), but the life expectancy and functionality of the weapon.
For example, if the bolt does not lock up consistently into the barrel extension, the accuracy will be poor.
Etc., etc.
And my OLY WSSM upper (after I've slicked it up and replaced the poor quality parts) is one of my favorite long range rifles (on a good lower), even if it is bad ugly.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sniper81</div><div class="ubbcode-body">if i cared what my guns look like i wouldnt have any, im more interested in the accuracy of the k16 not the looks </div></div>
It's not the looks I'm concerned about at all (but they are ugly), but the life expectancy and functionality of the weapon.
For example, if the bolt does not lock up consistently into the barrel extension, the accuracy will be poor.
Etc., etc.
And my OLY WSSM upper (after I've slicked it up and replaced the poor quality parts) is one of my favorite long range rifles (on a good lower), even if it is bad ugly.
