The rubber feet on my Atlus bi pod slides or rotates on my bench . Trying to decide between Cleats or the spike . Hawk hill customs has a spike inside a cleat .What do the hide members think ?
On Bipod feet Cleats or spike ?
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I have the hawk hills on my atlas cal. That’s what I would get
I have the Atlas Cleats, no spike.
Works great in grass. Ditto sand, I have shot them off packed snow.
I use rubber on any hard surface.
Cleats seem more adaptable than the spike to me.
Others can argue otherwise with likely good reason.
Works great in grass. Ditto sand, I have shot them off packed snow.
I use rubber on any hard surface.
Cleats seem more adaptable than the spike to me.
Others can argue otherwise with likely good reason.
I have Atlas PRS, which does not have rotating legs.
I have spiked feet, claw feet and rubber feet.
I like the spiked feet for concrete.
I prefer the claws for somewhat soft ground, like grass, dirt, snow layer, I have not yet tested them in thick snow, only maybe 5" where I just stomped the ground and it got good grip. Atlas claws do rotate, but not at all when it gets grip of the ground. I tried shooting with them on concrete, but found it very unstable. I could get good shots yes, but they moved very easily, rotated everywhere and were a pain in the ass.
I use the rubber feet when I cannot get grip with either of the spiked feet, like on metal or the (indoor) range that has a delicate surface. They are also good for concrete and a good choice for all-around.
I have already many times thought of epoxing wide washers to the spikes, so they won't dig too deep into the ground, which would widen their use cases to maybe grass, muddyish ground and on snow. And it would not hinder their use on concrete at all, so all win.
Please make some questions if something was left untold / unclear.
I have spiked feet, claw feet and rubber feet.
I like the spiked feet for concrete.
I prefer the claws for somewhat soft ground, like grass, dirt, snow layer, I have not yet tested them in thick snow, only maybe 5" where I just stomped the ground and it got good grip. Atlas claws do rotate, but not at all when it gets grip of the ground. I tried shooting with them on concrete, but found it very unstable. I could get good shots yes, but they moved very easily, rotated everywhere and were a pain in the ass.
I use the rubber feet when I cannot get grip with either of the spiked feet, like on metal or the (indoor) range that has a delicate surface. They are also good for concrete and a good choice for all-around.
I have already many times thought of epoxing wide washers to the spikes, so they won't dig too deep into the ground, which would widen their use cases to maybe grass, muddyish ground and on snow. And it would not hinder their use on concrete at all, so all win.
Please make some questions if something was left untold / unclear.
some people like sled feet on their bipod from a smooth bench. same difference but costs you $$ more.
you can change spikes to rubber by cutting a superball in half and drilling a hole in them
I would say this depends on two points. The first is what surface you are shooting from and the second is the number of shots you are shooting at a time.
If for example you are shooting targets for group, like F Class, its important that the rifle remains in the same position for every shot in the string. Shooting from grassy clay, spikes will help ensure the rifle position remains un changed.
If you are shooting from a hard on unstable surface like sand or rocks, I would opt for something with rubber feet or sled feet.
If you are shooting once or twice then moving and every position is different, I would avoid spikes. Just go for the most versatile and don't over think it.
If for example you are shooting targets for group, like F Class, its important that the rifle remains in the same position for every shot in the string. Shooting from grassy clay, spikes will help ensure the rifle position remains un changed.
If you are shooting from a hard on unstable surface like sand or rocks, I would opt for something with rubber feet or sled feet.
If you are shooting once or twice then moving and every position is different, I would avoid spikes. Just go for the most versatile and don't over think it.
I do not do benchrest but I have found myself to sticking with the spikes. With snow on gravel and concrete.
The BT64 without the ball joint could do that role, maybe better.
I run the hawk hill’s on my SCAL, pretty good option.
The best Bipod feet I’ve seen have been the ones on my elite iron.
Sand, rock, gravel, snow and ice, it does well in all of it.
The best Bipod feet I’ve seen have been the ones on my elite iron.
Sand, rock, gravel, snow and ice, it does well in all of it.
Hi,
Bipod feet material is not the core issue to be honest.
The core issue is recoil management and shooter position.
You can get spikes, cleats, stakes, etc to mask the core problem but the problem is still there.
Sincerely,
Theis
Bipod feet material is not the core issue to be honest.
The core issue is recoil management and shooter position.
You can get spikes, cleats, stakes, etc to mask the core problem but the problem is still there.
Sincerely,
Theis
Hi,
300NM with rubber bipod feet sitting on very edge of a 2x4 with the shooter (Not me, lol) having rock solid fundamentals!!!
Sincerely,
Theis
i have been experimenting with different feet because of having to shoot off a carpeted bench.
rubber feet slide on it easily so you can barely take the slack out of the atlas bipod before it slides forward.
this makes "building a bridge" next to impossible because it won't consistently bear the weight of the heavy rifle.
works fine for an 8lb rifle, but not so much for the 15lb one.
the ball joints on cleats make them useless on the carpet (to me) and they articulate too freely and just tip over from the weight of the rifle.
the only thing that has worked for me is to shoulder the rifle firmly like a shotgun rather than just having the weight of the rifle determine the pressure in my shoulder pocket against the bipod like in this video.
even with spiked feet on a hard surface, phil allows the bipod to recoil quite a bit more than in the video shared above.
i don't know if that is what @THEIS is saying, but it does look like the rifle isn't "allowed" to recoil very much. it is also shooting at a higher angle so the weight of the rifle is falling back and i don't know if that makes any difference.
rubber feet slide on it easily so you can barely take the slack out of the atlas bipod before it slides forward.
this makes "building a bridge" next to impossible because it won't consistently bear the weight of the heavy rifle.
works fine for an 8lb rifle, but not so much for the 15lb one.
the ball joints on cleats make them useless on the carpet (to me) and they articulate too freely and just tip over from the weight of the rifle.
the only thing that has worked for me is to shoulder the rifle firmly like a shotgun rather than just having the weight of the rifle determine the pressure in my shoulder pocket against the bipod like in this video.
even with spiked feet on a hard surface, phil allows the bipod to recoil quite a bit more than in the video shared above.
i don't know if that is what @THEIS is saying, but it does look like the rifle isn't "allowed" to recoil very much. it is also shooting at a higher angle so the weight of the rifle is falling back and i don't know if that makes any difference.
2 guys both doing things correctly.
Hence the same results with different feet and calibers etc.
I have tbac x2 1 with spikes and 1 with rubber feet. The rubber feet I actually got chair leg caps for because I was in very soft ground. The larger surface are slowed down the feet settling in during long sessions with 0 location change. Even with the settling into the ground shooting didn't change but I had to raise bipod during the session so thats the only reason I put them over the regular feet.
In general the rubber feet are my preference but on odd surfaces or angles I prefer the spikes
Hence the same results with different feet and calibers etc.
I have tbac x2 1 with spikes and 1 with rubber feet. The rubber feet I actually got chair leg caps for because I was in very soft ground. The larger surface are slowed down the feet settling in during long sessions with 0 location change. Even with the settling into the ground shooting didn't change but I had to raise bipod during the session so thats the only reason I put them over the regular feet.
In general the rubber feet are my preference but on odd surfaces or angles I prefer the spikes
Like the the hawk hills over the rubber feet only because they move less and dig less in soft stuff.
Not good for vehicle hoods though.
Lol.
Nothing really wrong with the rubber feet.
I thought I’d hate these but I was 1000% wrong about them.
