Re: on duty side arm
MinorDamage -
I don't think it's the <span style="font-style: italic">trigger pull</span> itself people attack (on a DA / SA pistol). It's the fact that there are two different trigger pulls on the weapon. It sounds like you're suggesting to carry a Sig or HK "cocked and locked" to get over that argument...? I've never carried either in a duty role (which is what this whole discussion is about), but I don't think carrying either in that manner is recommended or common practice in LE. 1911, yes, absolutely, but not a Sig or HK. Please correct me if I'm wrong on that. I do know the few guys at my department that carry Sigs always "decock" before reholstering.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MinorDamage</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Lastly, if you wind up with a misfire, the Sig and HK gives you the opportunity to attempt to fire the round (light primer strike) again. The glock requires you to rack the slide and then attempt to fire again. My $.02 </div></div>
In my opinion that is poor tactics. If you get a misfire you need to tap-rack-go right now and quickly. Don't waste time pulling the trigger again, even if you have the ability. If you got one fail to fire chances are it's going to happen again, so get that round out and go to work. It shouldn't matter what pistol you have in your hand, all weapons "require" you to rack the slide and fire again when speaking in terms of solid tactics. IMO of course...
RE the Glock grip angle... I didn't find it particularly natural at first either, but after <span style="font-style: italic">training</span> with it I shoot it well, and quickly.
***Edit to add:
It seems like you're trying to make it apples to apples with the Sig / HK vs Glock thing. I don't think you really can. They're different systems. Don't try to think of them the same because talking about carrying a glock with the "striker down" and having to rack it before you fire doesn't make a lick of sense.
MinorDamage -
I don't think it's the <span style="font-style: italic">trigger pull</span> itself people attack (on a DA / SA pistol). It's the fact that there are two different trigger pulls on the weapon. It sounds like you're suggesting to carry a Sig or HK "cocked and locked" to get over that argument...? I've never carried either in a duty role (which is what this whole discussion is about), but I don't think carrying either in that manner is recommended or common practice in LE. 1911, yes, absolutely, but not a Sig or HK. Please correct me if I'm wrong on that. I do know the few guys at my department that carry Sigs always "decock" before reholstering.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MinorDamage</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Lastly, if you wind up with a misfire, the Sig and HK gives you the opportunity to attempt to fire the round (light primer strike) again. The glock requires you to rack the slide and then attempt to fire again. My $.02 </div></div>
In my opinion that is poor tactics. If you get a misfire you need to tap-rack-go right now and quickly. Don't waste time pulling the trigger again, even if you have the ability. If you got one fail to fire chances are it's going to happen again, so get that round out and go to work. It shouldn't matter what pistol you have in your hand, all weapons "require" you to rack the slide and fire again when speaking in terms of solid tactics. IMO of course...
RE the Glock grip angle... I didn't find it particularly natural at first either, but after <span style="font-style: italic">training</span> with it I shoot it well, and quickly.
***Edit to add:
It seems like you're trying to make it apples to apples with the Sig / HK vs Glock thing. I don't think you really can. They're different systems. Don't try to think of them the same because talking about carrying a glock with the "striker down" and having to rack it before you fire doesn't make a lick of sense.