One Piece Quick Detach 30mm/20 MOA Scope Mount????

[HOGTOOTH5R]

Hi Guys! Time to pick your Brains again! I'm looking to get 2 30mm QD Scope Mounts for both my .308 ARs. I've seen some mounts that have 20 MOA Cant build in to them and all you need is to mount it and the scope on a Flat Top and you're DONE! Any good recommendations on Where to get these mounts and what Brands? Thanks again in advance! This AR stuff is Addicting!!!!

 

[Pigman]

Re: One Piece Quick Detach 30mm/20 MOA Scope Mount????

I would look into the ADM Recon 20 MOA mount from Liberty Optics. And don't forget to use "HIDE10" for 10% off.

 

[ORD]

Re: One Piece Quick Detach 30mm/20 MOA Scope Mount????

+1 on the ADM option Pigman mentioned. Quality mount, good QD reliability/repeatability, and a price that won't break the bank.

Additional, if price is no option, then the GDI P-ROM L-model 25MOA mount is where its at (but at roughly $500/mount...they ain't for everyone).

Now, my "reality check" bit on QD mounts...

DO YOU REEEAAAALLLLYYYY NEED QD?

While QD mounts are all the rage and they do have their advantages, it has been my experience that 95% of the people that buy them have ZERO real use for them. If you can't see yourself needing the ability to remove/reinstall/swap out your optics ASAFP, I recommend going with the Badger 22MOA AR rail seen here: http://www.triadtactical.com/Badger-AR-Riser-Rail-22MOA.html followed by a quality set of rings like Badger, Seekins, etc. rings.

 

[Jon A]

Re: One Piece Quick Detach 30mm/20 MOA Scope Mount????

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ORD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">DO YOU REEEAAAALLLLYYYY NEED QD?

While QD mounts are all the rage and they do have their advantages, it has been my experience that 95% of the people that buy them have ZERO real use for them. </div></div>
That's a point that bears repeating. If looking for a 20 MOA mount, the chances are you're mounting a relatively large scope onto a precision rifle you expect to use at long range. For that application your choice of mount naturally is likely to be different than when mounting a 1-4X or red dot on a carbine.

In my opinion, for that application it's hard to justify giving up such large amounts of clamping force simply for the convenience of not needing a wrench to remove the optic.

 

[HOGTOOTH5R]

Re: One Piece Quick Detach 30mm/20 MOA Scope Mount????

Thanks a lot guys, AS ALWAYS!!! Now reality check. The reason why I want a QD Mount is I'm planning on getting a Larue Discreat Bag for my 16" DPMS, so to use it, I'll need a QD Mount to take the scope on and off for storage in the bag.

Now for the 20MOA, I'm planning on running a Vortex Viper PST FFP 3-16x50mm Scope on my 16" DPMS. My plans are pretty much 800 Yrds MAX with realistically speaking 300-500 yrd mid range. Just wondering if the 20 MOA is really Needed for this?

For the Armalite AR10 20", I'm planning on building a 1,000 yrd Semi Auto Rig (Yea, it's more of a want than need type of thing). The scope I'll be using is a Bushnell Elite Tactical 6-24x50mm with the G2 Reticles. I'm thinking I might need a 20 MOA for sure on this one, but maybe not so much on the 16". Let me know what you guys think? Thanks a lot everyone!

 

[sch2046]

Re: One Piece Quick Detach 30mm/20 MOA Scope Mount????

I have run the Nightforce Unimount for years now and love it. I just bought another one for my other ar 10. No issues what so ever. Rock solid.

 

[smschulz]

Re: One Piece Quick Detach 30mm/20 MOA Scope Mount????

I have the ADM SW mounting my USO 3.2x17x50 on my MA TEN.
I have had it on and off several times to clean, work on, etc and it has always returned to zero.
Not a fan of QD for bolt guns but for AR types it has it's advantages and so far for me no disadvantages.
YMMV.

 

[ORD]

Re: One Piece Quick Detach 30mm/20 MOA Scope Mount????

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HOGTOOTH5R</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks a lot guys, AS ALWAYS!!! Now reality check. The reason why I want a QD Mount is I'm planning on getting a Larue Discreat Bag for my 16" DPMS, so to use it, I'll need a QD Mount to take the scope on and off for storage in the bag.

Now for the 20MOA, I'm planning on running a Vortex Viper PST FFP 3-16x50mm Scope on my 16" DPMS. My plans are pretty much 800 Yrds MAX with realistically speaking 300-500 yrd mid range. Just wondering if the 20 MOA is really Needed for this?

For the Armalite AR10 20", I'm planning on building a 1,000 yrd Semi Auto Rig (Yea, it's more of a want than need type of thing). The scope I'll be using is a Bushnell Elite Tactical 6-24x50mm with the G2 Reticles. I'm thinking I might need a 20 MOA for sure on this one, but maybe not so much on the 16". Let me know what you guys think? Thanks a lot everyone! </div></div>

Given your uses and the optics you'll be mounting:

1) while the PST in question has a total of 75MOA and will probably be enough to get you out to 800yds with a variety of different ammo from a 16" tube, I think that the ADM 20MOA mount would be and excellent choice given your goals/needs/wants;

2) For a precision semi-auto like what your goals are for the 20" barreled Armalite, I go back to my previous statement on the Badger 22MOA riser and rings. Since you don't NEED the QD capability on that rifle, I'd stick to more of a fixed mounting solution be it with the Unimount or the Badger setup I suggested. Now...with that said...the ADM QD mount will still serve you well in that role if you want to keep the mounts the same between your rifles. One way or the other...you'll want the addt'l 20MOA (or 22MOA) with your 1k rifle.

 

[strat81]

Re: One Piece Quick Detach 30mm/20 MOA Scope Mount????

Consider a LaRue LT-158 SPR-S. It's a 10MOA base.

I use one on an 18" rifle that I use a 3.5-10x scope and a 1-4x scope, swapping them as necessary. The big scope resides in the SPR-S while the little guy is in a LT-104 SPR.

Both work as I expect them and I appreciate what LaRue Tactical does for the community and the sport.

 

[HOGTOOTH5R]

Re: One Piece Quick Detach 30mm/20 MOA Scope Mount????

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ORD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HOGTOOTH5R</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks a lot guys, AS ALWAYS!!! Now reality check. The reason why I want a QD Mount is I'm planning on getting a Larue Discreat Bag for my 16" DPMS, so to use it, I'll need a QD Mount to take the scope on and off for storage in the bag.

Now for the 20MOA, I'm planning on running a Vortex Viper PST FFP 3-16x50mm Scope on my 16" DPMS. My plans are pretty much 800 Yrds MAX with realistically speaking 300-500 yrd mid range. Just wondering if the 20 MOA is really Needed for this?

For the Armalite AR10 20", I'm planning on building a 1,000 yrd Semi Auto Rig (Yea, it's more of a want than need type of thing). The scope I'll be using is a Bushnell Elite Tactical 6-24x50mm with the G2 Reticles. I'm thinking I might need a 20 MOA for sure on this one, but maybe not so much on the 16". Let me know what you guys think? Thanks a lot everyone! </div></div>

Given your uses and the optics you'll be mounting:

1) while the PST in question has a total of 75MOA and will probably be enough to get you out to 800yds with a variety of different ammo from a 16" tube, I think that the ADM 20MOA mount would be and excellent choice given your goals/needs/wants;

2) For a precision semi-auto like what your goals are for the 20" barreled Armalite, I go back to my previous statement on the Badger 22MOA riser and rings. Since you don't NEED the QD capability on that rifle, I'd stick to more of a fixed mounting solution be it with the Unimount or the Badger setup I suggested. Now...with that said...the ADM QD mount will still serve you well in that role if you want to keep the mounts the same between your rifles. One way or the other...you'll want the addt'l 20MOA (or 22MOA) with your 1k rifle.</div></div>

Hi Bro! Thanks for the Response!

The Vortex Viper PST I'll be using will have the MRAD turrents, but yes, I believe the 20MOA QD Mount will probably be the Ideal Unit for my 16" Setup. The way I see it, it's better to have it and not need it than the other way around. And as a Long Term Equipment Investment, I think the 20MOA QD Mount will last me a Long Time.

As for the 20" LR AR10, I doubt I'll be doing any 3 Gun Comp or CQC with it LOL. I've also seen WEAVER makes a 20MOA AR Flat Top base as well (kind of works like the Night Force Unit). I have WEAVER Tactical 20MOA Base on both of my Remington 700 Bolt Guns and it's actually a very good quality product. Maybe I'll go that round and save couple of coins towards the glass and ammo. Last but not least, I NEED A LOT MORE SHOOTING TIME with Semiautos...

 

[HOGTOOTH5R]

Re: One Piece Quick Detach 30mm/20 MOA Scope Mount????

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: smschulz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have the ADM SW mounting my USO 3.2x17x50 on my MA TEN.
I have had it on and off several times to clean, work on, etc and it has always returned to zero.
Not a fan of QD for bolt guns but for AR types it has it's advantages and so far for me no disadvantages.
YMMV. </div></div>

Thanks for the kind Personal Experience Input! That's Very Good to Know!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: strat81</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Consider a LaRue LT-158 SPR-S. It's a 10MOA base.

I use one on an 18" rifle that I use a 3.5-10x scope and a 1-4x scope, swapping them as necessary. The big scope resides in the SPR-S while the little guy is in a LT-104 SPR.

Both work as I expect them and I appreciate what LaRue Tactical does for the community and the sport. </div></div>

Yes! Larue makes some BADASS Products! I'll be ordering their Discreet Rifle Case from them too! But for the mounts pushing near $300 plus I live in Texas so adding Sales TAX, it'll be out of my funds for this part of the project. Thanks for the input though!

 

[HkPlinker]

Re: One Piece Quick Detach 30mm/20 MOA Scope Mount????

If one is shooting 100-300 yards only with a SASS 308, is a 10 or 20 MOA base even needed?? Zeroing at 100 using MIL-DOT.

 

[ORD]

Re: One Piece Quick Detach 30mm/20 MOA Scope Mount????

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HkPlinker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If one is shooting 100-300 yards only with a SASS 308, is a 10 or 20 MOA base even needed?? Zeroing at 100 using MIL-DOT.
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The short answer is...IT DEPENDS. The rifle, cartridge and max range are but a few parts of the equation...the specific optic is the bigger factor. In all likelihood, unless you are getting a scope with a ridiculously limited internal adjustment range...you should be fine with a flat (0MOA) base.