opiate thoughts

[UKDslayer]

Local lidocaine for the stitches, but zero pain meds in or after ER visit. I try my best to not use them, doc offered prescription and I declined View attachment 8573859View attachment 8573860

Nerve block and some Tylenol.

 

[Hecouldgoalltheway]

I took opiods for three years after I broke my neck in 2007. When I got it all sorted, I just stopped taking them. Took as prescribed every 6 hours, and quit when shit got fixed, so not a thing!

Does that make me qualified to speak on the subject, or are you inferring something else? Not being an ass, but drugs are like life.....make hard good decisions and you can do anything.

People are just weak, and take the easy road.

Im all for making all drugs legal, we can thin out the shit people.

I don't even understand the argument against what you're saying..

No grown ass adult believed opiates weren't addictive, but even if they did, and they found themselves addicted, as I and many other people did, you man the fuck up and get past it, or you go down to second avenue and suck Juan's dick for heroin. Not a decision I had to think hard on. Now we are all supposed to believe that doctors told people they weren't addictive, (which I just don't buy, on any scale especially), nor that any person with enough sense to avoid the consumption of tide pods would believe anyways, and that they became drug addicts due to the misinformation. Nah, not buying it.

Funny enough, a higher percentage of Americans became heroin addicts in the 70's, and nobody told them that it wasn't addictive. When drugs become easy to get, more people who are so inclined will take them.

Open the gates and let them. Make natural selection great again. And I am saying this as someone who even as I write this has very close family members and friends caught in the grip of addiction. Sell that shit at the corner store and let it sort itself out.

 

[thejeep]

I don't not subscribe to the idea for one moment that any doctor told any patient that opiates weren't addictive, nor that anyone would have attempted to sell that to any Dr. They aren't that dumb. We've known that opiates were addictive for over a thousand years.

This entire premise is based on the lawyers filing the lawsuits. It's a brilliant populist idea. You disavow the junkie from their actions, because... they didn't know that eating 13 perccocet a day would lead to an addiction, and their Dr, who gave them a 2 week prescription of 28 pills, three years earlier for an injury can't be held responsible, because nobody told them that opiates were addictive, (except their entire medical school, every year of their residency, and their career), and places the blame squarely on big pharma, who we all hate. Nobody ever told anyone that opiates weren't addictive, and you don't start buying heroin from Juan on second street because you sprained your ankle once and took pain pills for 2 weeks and then you were hopelessly addicted.

It's all bullshit.

And I had a monthly perccocet prescription from the VA for 8 years myself, and then I finally realized that it was stupid and I stopped taking them. Had about 3 rough nights and never looked back.

We are all glad it only took you 8 years of 5/325s or 5/500s to realize the racket. And it didn't take an additional 3 years of Dilaudid, continuous Ms, methadone, bunoreprhine, sublimate, ECT.

 

[Hecouldgoalltheway]

We are all glad it only took you 8 years of 5/325s or 5/500s to realize the racket. And it didn't take an additional 3 years of Dilaudid, continuous Ms, methadone, bunoreprhine, sublimate, ECT.

It didn't take that long to realize the racket, it took that long for me to realize that it was useless to dull my pain. Coincidentally, it happened at the same time Trump signed the actual bill that allowed us to go outside the VA for surgery. I had a shoulder surgery 4 days after my first visit with an orthopedic surgeon. He described my shoulder as "top 3 wost he'd ever seen in his 24 years of surgery".

This is after 8 years of the VA refusing to operate on my shoulder. Full width rotator cuff tear, full width slap tear, labrum tear, 90%+ bicep detachment, bone spurs, arthritis, and a whole list of other shit. They gave me about 90 more percocet after the surgery, plus my standard 60, and I ate them all in 30 days. I stayed fucked up for a month. At the end of that month, I realized what was happening to me, and I stopped, cold turkey, done. I didn't sleep for 3 days straight, had suicidal thoughts, crazy thoughts, cold sweats, anxiety through the roof. I went and stayed alone, away from my family and everyone else for the last 2 days, but I am in control, not some fucking pills. It's never been an issue since. I've also since had a major knee surgery, and some dental stuff, and I took the pills in both cases for a week or two, and never had a problem. They are spectacular for their designed purpose, and nobody should be denied pain relief when it makes sense.