Opinions on Accuracy Expectation of the LWRC SPR

[samnev]

I am thinking of getting the above rifle. I can shoot 0.5 moa groups on good days with my Noveske Afghan N4's or my Rock River Elite CAR on bad days 0.75 moa with my hand loads and similar groups when I use FGMM. What kind of 5 shoot 100 yard groups can I expect on average with the LWRC M6A2 SPR using FGMM or similar ammunition?
TIA

 

[FALex]

don't piston AR's have a lower standard of accuracy as compared to DI rifles? I owned the LWRC SPR but didn't get a chance to shoot it before I sold it. I did read, on average, it was an MOA rifle, but not having done any testing myself, I obviously can't vouch for it.

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[Name Enough]

I don't think the piston is as much an influence on accuracy as the chamber/barrel and trigger. I own 4 LWRC products that I am very well pleased with. I will admit I am not the best shot in the world but when I am shooting well I get good group about .75" MOA. Viewing high speed photos it shows that the bullet is long left the barrel before any of the piston parts are engaged. The teething problems with piston systems have been worked out to the point where the military is ready to move to the piston AR as evidenced by the orders to HK.
IMHO - tighter tolerances = more accuracy - less tighter tolerances = more dependability. I am willing to sacrifice some accuracy in my Stoner pattern rifles for more dependability. In my bolt action rifles its a different story.

 

[Falsecrack]

There was a thread a few days back that linked a video (MAC, I believe) pitting the REPR against the Scar17. In it, Matt shot for groups. I can't remember what the exact size was, but I'm fairly certain in was below 1 MOA (for both). If you can find the vid, it might help with your question of accuracy.

 

[samnev]

don't piston AR's have a lower standard of accuracy as compared to DI rifles? I owned the LWRC SPR but didn't get a chance to shoot it before I sold it. I did read, on average, it was an MOA rifle, but not having done any testing myself, I obviously can't vouch for it.

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Thanks for the replies. I have 4 piston AR's SIG 556, SIG 516, POF 516 and a Ruger SR 556. I also have several DI AR's, 2 Noveske Afghan N4's, Colt 6920, 2 Rock River's, S&W MP 15FT and an LMT CQB. While the piston rifles (except the SIG 556) all shoot about 1 moa or slightly better the DI AR's as an aggregate shoot about 0.25 moa better. That is why I asked the question about the M6A2 SPR's accuracy. I like the LWRC line and would like the SPR if it has decent accuracy (< 1moa.) I don't want to spend almost $2500 and not have an AR that doesn't shoot at least the well.
As you can tell I am an AR Junkie.

 

[Falsecrack]

D'oh! Sorry about my last post. For some reason, I thought you were asking about the REPR.

 

[BCP]

All those rifles and you don't own a JP?

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[chainring]

My SPR is a sub-moa shooter with FGMM 77gr and 55gr PMC. As I'm sure you know, each barrel likes something different, but the FGMM fodder has been a consistent performer in my LWRC rifles, both 5.56 and 7.62. They have been reliable with anything I fed them, but most accurate with those two loads.

 

[samnev]

All those rifles and you don't own a JP?

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A JP is my next choice if I don't get a decent number replies reporting accuracy that justifies the cost of the M6A2 SPR.

Falsecrack, not a problem I've made the same mistake myself. Thanks for the reply anyway.

 

[Shooter0311]

My spr is .75 moa with SWA 77 smk and mk262. With xm193 and 855, it's consistently a little over moa. To be fair, I have only shot the 193 and 855 for accuracy a couple times on paper to see. When I use those, it's usually banging steel.

It will shoot mk318 mod o at moa as well.

Hope this helps. It's a light and handy lil carbine.

 

[BCP]

Well, a friend of mine owns a couple of them and he is ga-ga for them but neither shoots better than MOA on any sort of consistent basis and he paid out the ass for them. JP rifles just seem to shoot really well but it is more of a race-gun while the LWRC is a battle rifle. Considering how many rifles you own you probably have plenty of dough so why not both of them and sell the one you don't like?

 

[Shooter0311]

Agree with BCP. Mine is a blast to shoot but by far not my most
consistently accurate either. (Counting both gas systems.)

One thing I have noticed is when other experienced shooters
grab it to lay down and shoot for groups (Happened on 3 occasions.), they
really have a hard time getting the same results I do and usually do not. These are good gas gun guys too.
For most accurate; I bet a JP will do what you want better and I think for less.

 

[samnev]

Thanks for all the feedback guys. Yes, I fortunately I could afford to buy both but I do not want to buy a rifle that doesn't shoot consistent 1 moa or better. I have 1 already one, the SIG 556, that I bought when they first came out. While it is utterly reliable and never had a single problem however it is more of a 2 moa rifle and I tried every bullet weight from 52 SMK's to 69 SMK's with Varget, 4895, 3031 and 748 varying the loads by 2/10th's of a grain. I would have sold it but quickly there were so many bad reports of canted sights, bad barrels, problems with welds in the receiver etc, etc, I would have taken a 50% loss. Mine was one of the early ones with Swiss internals and Swiss barrel finished in Exeter. So now it sits in the safe for my heirs to deal with. I don't need another to keep it company.

So it seems there are mixed results with the SPR's accuracy. Hopefully I will get a few more post and then make a decision. But so far it looks like I may be leaning towards the JP. Any particular model that you guys recommend?

 

[Nac]

I just got LWRC M6A2 SPR a week ago still trying to figure what optic yo go with first I was thinking a IOR Pitbull1x4 now I am thinking a Leopold Mark 6 1x6 or USO SR8. So I have not had a chance to use the rifle yet

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[samnev]

I just got LWRC M6A2 SPR a week ago still trying to figure what optic yo go with first I was thinking a IOR Pitbull1x4 now I am thinking a Leopold Mark 6 1x6 or USO SR8. So I have not had a chance to use the rifle yet

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I have the Leupold Mk 6 FFP 1-6 scope on one of my AR's and really like it.


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[macfly]

I think you will be fine LWRCs are very well made and accurate. This is a pic of off hand shooting a 10 round group with my new limited edition LWRC m6IC at about 20 yqards with just an aimpoint T1. I think your spr will be able to handle it.

 

[odonnks]

My M6A2 SPR will do this with Ultramax Balistic tip ammo.
Still need to try FGMM or Black Hills.





LWRC rifles are good quality.

Don't rule out JP. I also have a JP LRP 07 that has a incredibly smooth action. Still haven't broken it in yet.
They offer very high quality and have some .223/5.56 ready to ship.

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[samnev]

My M6A2 SPR will do this with Ultramax Balistic tip ammo.
Still need to try FGMM or Black Hills.





LWRC rifles are good quality.

Don't rule out JP. I also have a JP LRP 07 that has a incredibly smooth action. Still haven't broken it in yet.
They offer very high quality and have some .223/5.56 ready to ship.

JP - Available Firearms and Assemblies

Nice looking SPR. I love the FDE finish, nice shooting as well. Thanks for the input.

 

[HumbleEinstein]

(click on the pic for a closeup)

This is my 5 shot group at 100 yards with quality ammo, 4X, and bad eyes from a bench with bipod. Also, I'm not very good at all. Still learning...

It is .9 MOA. Without the "flyer," which I'm sure is my fault, it would have been .4 MOA.

 

[samnev]

Thanks for all the replies. HumbleEinstein, I just took my SPR out for the second time yesterday. I had almost the same group as yours. The first 4 shoots at 100 yards into 0.42" then the 5th shot directly below it which opened the group up to 0.95 moa. I have yet to shoot a group smaller than 0.8 moa. Most hover around 1 moa. The trigger while crisp is on the heavy side so I may put a Geiselle SSA-E in it.

 

[HumbleEinstein]

I actually have a Geiselle SSA-E in mine. I should have mentioned that. I like the trigger a lot. I don't think I'm ever going back. I just finished a lightweight build and put an SSA in it. I think I could shoot a tighter group with my SPR if I had more magnification, but I haven't tried.