opinions on trainer

[Rockhopper]

i currently own a brand new basic 597. have not shot it that much. maybe 20 rounds.

http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/rimfire/model-597/model-597.aspx

i find myself wanting to build a .22 trainer. would like heavy barrel, boyds tacticool, bipod, etc.

now, here is the question. should i sell this and buy a 10/22 to start with? or should i just build the 597? can i get aftermarket heavy barrel for it? are they finicky at all? or should i get a 10/22 because of the vast aftermarket support?

i would like to keep my options on the cheaper side. so whatever would suit me better. i dont not like the 597, but would i be better off starting with a ruger?

 

[TOP PREDATOR]

if you can sell the 597 to get a 10/22 without taking a beating, yes as it's hard to top a 10/22 when it comes to semis, or for that matter a bolt when accurized a little. plus most upgrades can be done at home including barrel swaps in a few minutes.

 

[noeesp]

I agree with top predator a 10/22 is an ideal platform with tons of bolt on parts. Not sure about the accuracy vs a bolt gun though

 

[TravisM1]

I always thought the idea of a "trainer" was a rifle that mimics a full-bore rifles characteristics; action, safety location, general dimensions. I never really think "trainer" when I see a macked out 10/22. Not saying they wont let you reach out a couple hundred yards, or shoot ok, or whatever. Just commenting on the definition of a "trainer", I guess.

What are you "training" for? If your other rifles are bolt actions, thats the route I'd go.

 

[n64atlas]

Well, most trainers through the years relied on sight picture, weight and trigger put. The Army, during WWII used 22lr bolt action rifles like the Winchester 75, Remington 513T, Stevens 416, and Mossberg 44US. The USMC used the H&R Reising M65. Going back further, there were the conversions of the military bolt rifles and Gallery Practice rifles. Later, they used inserts for the M-16, the Rodmen Air Force kit and the Army M-262

 

[TOP PREDATOR]

I'm training for the ears in a corn field to magically come alive and start dancing prior to their bloodthirsty massacre.

Just as plausible as zombies and statistically more scary.

it's romured that COLONEL COURN is their leader, and they have great hearing due to their ears.

i think you are on to the next apocolyptic prophecy!

 

[Greg Langelius *]

A trainer is a rifle with a functional action, trigger, suitable ergonomics, and a barrel which will provide sufficiently economical and consistent accuracy that the entire package can be used as an infallible metric of the shooter's skill at a given day and time.

This does not mandate any specific action type, caliber, sight, or configuration.

My trainer is an aged Savage MKII, what would today be termed a MKIIF, old enough to have a grooved receiver. It is not a stellar accuracy gun, but groups inside a quarter at 50yd off rests with decent ammunition; I use CCI Standard Velocity Target. The scope is a budget Tasco 6-24x42 MilDot Varmint/Target.

My most accurate .22 is a much modified 10/22 with an identical scope. It's isn't my trainer because it is so much fun to shoot, I go through a magazine way too fast. Fun is great, but training is supposed to be a more workmanlike activity. Usually...

I have recently acquired a raging case of Mosinitis. I maintain a small fleet of Mosin-Nagant 91/30's for fun and training with my Grandkiddos. I am in the process of fitting them out with a modest Scout Scope setup, at an overall individual cost of $200-$250 each, including the rifle. The project is being documented in the SH Vintage Sniper Rifles forum in a topic entitled 7.62x54R Cheap Shooter. I wouldn't even try to depict the 91/30 as a stellar performer. but for training purposes it's at least adequate, and it's also about as reliable as a single-piece forged hatchet.

Greg

 

[D_TROS]

*cough* bolt gun! *cough cough*

*cough AKK! cough* 10/22's are shit *cough sneeze*


Fuck this cold is killing me.

couldnt agree more

10/22's turn into money pits really fast...but if you shoot then you already know this!

 

[clodhopper]

it's romured that COLONEL COURN is their leader, and they have great hearing due to their ears.

i think you are on to the next apocolyptic prophecy!

The worst part is; when you try to shoot the raging ears in the head.