Rifle Scopes Optics suggestions for 458 SOCOM

[grinnergetter]

Looking for opinions for hunting purposes. This rifle needs a bit of eye relief. Would like drops in the reticle for longer shots.

Looked at Nightforce but need to be real as its pretty much a deer rifle that will be not be shot very much.

Any ideas are appreciated.

 

[Powder_Burns]

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I put a Mark4 2.5-8x36 on mine, it has a bit of eye relief. Not as much as I anticipated, but it is sufficient. Scope has not kissed me once. TMR reticle gives you hashes to figure out holdovers with too, but the price is high.

Putting an aimpoint on my next rifle...going all qd mounts gives me the option of switching out optics too.

 

[Switchblade]

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EOTech because you will only be looking around 250M or less. A 250M zero with an EOTech will give you solid holds for closer targets with a bit of range practice.
For the range practice I recommend at least three magazines worth of shooting.
1 Mag - 250
1/2 Mag - 200
1 mag - 150
1/2 mag - 100

That SHOULD be enough practice and range work since you will have a nice bruise by then from the thumper and your shoulder will be nicely tenderized

If it's a scope you need for more precision with your brush gun well there are many from SWFA's 10x42 to the USO SN4's, but a EOTech works just fine

 

[Wild_Man]

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Take a look at the Vortex Vipers (not PST) with the Dead hold BDC. Sighted in at 100 yds, I think the dots would be fairly close for 150, 200, 250, and 300. 50 to 125 should be on the crosshair.

With the Eotech solution above, you are going to be over 8 inches high at 100 meters.

 

[JelloStorm]

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I dunno about the EOTechs... seems they don't handle recoil very well leading to issues with the battery terminals.

Do a search on EOTechs, they've been discussed in detail lately and everyone says Aimpoint over EOTech anyday.

 

[Switchblade]

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I shot a 30 round mag full of 458's from a friend's AR. The EOtech was fine and it's lasted for a very long time on the gun in question. The worst part about those big thumpers though is the bruise ya notice later on after shooting. Panty 6 asked me what I had been doing and I was like, Woah, Damn, didn't even feel it.
For the round on the AR platform, I wouldn't go with a larger scope than 10x40, and preferebaly would use something along the lines of one of the smaller 1-4 x 42 types. My SN4 would be top shelf pick, and that new SWFA SS is looking to be a solid solution for a short range round like the 458

 

[ArcticFun]

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You could get the EOtech 557 (I think that's it). It's a BDC for the 5.56mm NATO round. It's 4 dots that has a circle around all 4. I'd assume make aim point number the top of the circle and find where the subsequent rounds fall in the BDC reticle. I use a flip to the side 3x magnifier that works absolute wonders. There is a 4x magnifier available as well. I've beat mine to shit running through brush, water, mud, diesel (don't ask), and subzero temperatures. The BDC recticle is something like a 20 or 40 MOA circle and the dots are as follows: 1: 0-300m, 2: 400m, 3: 500m and 4: 600m. I'd think a heavier bullet running slower should be good to around 300m or so with this reticle.

 

[grinnergetter]

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Thanks everyone,I have an EO Tech but it is a cicle dot reticle.
I'm sure it would work fine but was hoping for something not subject to batteries.I dont even like it at 100 yards for precision but closer,gtg

I'll check out the USO's and similar.

They said the recoil was like a 20 gage but I think its closer to a 12. I was breaking in a Lewis Machine and switched to the RRA...well lets just say the difference was significant.

 

[ArcticFun]

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The one I mentioned runs of two AA batteries if that makes a difference. Been running excellent for the last three years so far. It automatically shuts off after 8 hours so if you forget it, well no problem. FYI the reticle I'm talking about is the one on the 557.AR223.

 

[FORESTBARBER]

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I have an Aimpoint on mine. I think it is a good choice. I don't think that round is accurate past 200 yds, in my experience at least, so I think a red dot makes sense. And yes, that round is punishing to shoot. I have probably put only 100 rounds through mine. The combination of brutal recoil and expensive ammo ain't much fun.

But, I am ready for a Hog hunt!

 

[grinnergetter]

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I checked it out last night and does your reticle seem fuzzy?

Mine is not sharp at all.

Mine seems to be pulled or stretched to the right unless its set a really low brightness.

I be tthe magnifier would work very nice with it.

 

[doc76251]

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Check out the USO 1.5 - 6 w/ the C2 reticle. 40 Mil fast acquisition circle and 10 mils of hold on all 4 corners. The 10X T-PAL will be coming into production long about June.

Cheers,

Doc

 

[ArcticFun]

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The reticle is fuzzy until viewed through a magnifier, atleast mine is. But it's fuzzy all around though, not pulled. I can make out the individual dots, barely but I can, without a magnifier. With the magnifier it's perfect. I'll get some pictures for you. The reticle will be bright so you can see the detail and I'll try my best to get non magnified versus a magnified and a picture or two of the FTS. I love it, perfect for brush then bam there's a field and you flip it back over and can shoot what's on the other side.

 

[BERTMAN77MK2]

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Eotech--or 1-to 4x millet---for price conscious

 

[Switchblade]

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For good precision to 400M +/- the SN4 or SN6 from US Optics would be a good scope. A Circle Chevron will give solid CQB as well as the ability to range and use come ups for the higher magnification on the Chevron's Point. The Posi Slide and Lock mount is also a superb fit on any AR flat top platform.
If budget conscious, any of the 10x and lower SWFA SS's would be great

 

[lou400a]

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I have a Trijicon 1.25-4x24 Accu-Point Rifle Scope on my Beowulf. Lots of eye relief, no batteries to worry about and works great at close ranges for hogs on the move and at 4x is good enough for two to three hundred shots of the bench. This scope is hard to beat.

 

[memo_888]

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I'm running a Trijicon 1-4X24 AccuPoint with triangle post reticle on my .458 SOCOM AR. I have taken a deer and a hog with it both under 200 yds. good price, great optics, plenty of eye relief.

I dont have a need for drops on the reticle since I dont use this rifle for shots past 200 yds.

YMMV.

Trijicon

1X

4X

 

[grinnergetter]

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Arctic....looking forward to the pics

The reticle on my EO Tech is fuzzy all the way around but seems to be pulled a bit worse at 10 oclock and 5 o'clock.

At this point I was thinking about the SN4 and the magnifier...then pick the best one for me.

Memo, how much drop are you getting from 100-200?

 

[ArcticFun]

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It seems I have managed to break it... Well not exactly. See there are springs that hold the battery against the connections and one of those springs has managed to vacate my battery housing... So I need to find myself a replacement spring so that my sight will work. When I do that I will let you know, sorry about that.

EDIT: It seems that the spring on a ballpoint pen is an acceptable substitute! Pictures will be up shortly.

 

[ArcticFun]

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The picture quality on my iPhone sucks something fierce but I hope your able to see the recticle clearly enough to make out the hashes on the circle and the dots. It is much larger in real life. By the way, all the pictures with the sight turned on are upside down.

 

[grinnergetter]

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Wow, thanks alot for taking the time to take those pics and make repairs. Are those through the magnifier or not?

 

[ArcticFun]

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The last picture is the only one through the magnifier, I can get some more if you would like though.

I'll be out of town till atleast Thursday, maybe even Friday so I won't be able to get some pictures up if you want them, I'll do what I can if you want more when I get back though.

 

[strick9]

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I use my 458 for deer and hogs, its bang flop, no tracking however I did start with an eotech and found it lacking big time especially at dawn and dusk. I went to a kahles 3x9x42 with the tds drop reticle and its been the cats ass mounted in a burris pepr. The kahles glass is second to none and the tds is simple and accurate. They can be found occasionally at 24hr for around 500 bucks. Its the perfect match for hunting with the 458.

 

[USACS]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Memo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm running a Trijicon 1-4X24 AccuPoint with triangle post reticle on my .458 SOCOM AR. I have taken a deer and a hog with it both under 200 yds. good price, great optics, plenty of eye relief.

I dont have a need for drops on the reticle since I dont use this rifle for shots past 200 yds.

YMMV.

Trijicon

1X

4X

</div></div>
I was just going to recommend this as well. The Trijicon is a TRUE 1x scope, not a 1x that is actually 1.2x or 1.5x. It's a true 1:1 magnification. The BAC reticle is perfect for quick target acquisition, and it is still very accurate at longer ranges.
To be realistic, you ARE shooting a .458SOCOM, not a 7mm Mag. Extreme long range shots won't occur for you, and if they do, you're not dealing with a round that is designed to be employed at longer ranges. You're basically looking at a round that was designed to penetrate auto safety glass or knock out the engine on a moving vehicle. A 1-4x scope is really more than adequate.
Don't buy a scope for the "what-if once in a lifetime chance" situation. Buy a scope for the "99.5% of the time" situation.

if it's just for hunting, something that might be more up your alley might be in the realm of a Leupold UltimateSlam 2-7x33 scope for $260 with the BDC reticle. Also, the Nikon SlugHunter 1.65-5x36 with BDC reticle, or the Nikon Buckmasters 3-9x40 with BDC reticle.
But that's just my opinion.

 

[grinnergetter]

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Thank you all for your suggestions. Got alot of great info and am waiting on pricing for the scopes mentioned above.