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Not only that, let's say one does follow the new law. It allows for 10+ round mags if owned prior to effective date, but they can only be used in certain cases:How will a man be able to differentiate between the “good” cops that won’t enforce these tyrannical laws and the bad ones that will. Remember this has to be done on the fly and getting it wrong may end your life and ruin your family all because of a handful of tyrants setting policy the police enforce with violence. Are the police in Oregon still considered friendlies considering? I’ll let you guys decide.
Don’t cut these guys any slack because they are just upholding the “law”. Suppressors and sbrs among other things are illegal in all 50 states. Would any of you trust your lives and well being of your families that the LEO in your area wouldn’t put you in front of a corrupt judge in one of their kangaroo courts if you stood your ground and believed in the 2nd amendment? Some of you wonder why I am so critical of these guys and this is just another example of many. Understand they aren’t friendlies. This includes the “good” ones that cannot be differentiated from the others.Not only that, let's say one does follow the new law. It allows for 10+ round mags if owned prior to effective date, but they can only be used in certain cases:
A person commits the crime of unlawful manufacture, importation, possession, use, purchase, sale or otherwise transferring of large-capacity magazines if the person manufactures, imports, possesses, uses, purchases, sells or otherwise transfers any large-capacity magazine in Oregon on or after the effective date of this 2022 Act.
(A) On property owned or immediately controlled by the registered owner;
(B) On the premises of a gun dealer or gunsmith licensed under 18 U.S.C. 923 for the purpose of lawful service or repair;
(C) While engaging in the legal use of the large-capacity magazine, at a public or private shooting range or shooting gallery or for recreational activities such as hunting, to the extent permitted under state law; or
(D) While participating in firearms competition or exhibition, display or educational project about firearms sponsored, conducted by, approved or under the auspices of a law enforcement agency or a national or state-recognized entity that fosters proficiency in firearms use or promotes firearms education; and
(E) While transporting any large-capacity magazines in a vehicle to one of the locations authorized in paragraphs (c)(A) to (D) of this subsection, the large-capacity magazine is not inserted into the firearm and is locked in a separate container.
Violating is a class A misdemeanor, punishable by a year in jail, a fine of up to $6,250, or both.
So let's say you are traveling to a shooting range, with your mags locked inside a box, just as specified. But you get stopped for a traffic infraction, cop sees your rifles, sees your lockbox, and either because he doesn't believe you're headed to a range, or just doesn't like you that day and will simply state he didn't believe you, the cop will have the authority to arrest you for the misdemeanor.
Sure, you will have to affirmatively defend that you obtained the mags prior to 12/8/2022, and prove you were headed to the range that day, and let's say you are able to do both. But, you still got cuffed, spent several hours in a holding cell, had to hire/pay a lawyer. Missed whatever work and such for court/lawyer meetings.
But yay, the system worked, you were found Not Guilty after spending thousands of dollars to make sure you didn't get a year in jail while actually following the new law, because "how was the cop to know? ...doing their job."
Raschio will run for governor of Oregon some day.
So let's say you are traveling to a shooting range, with your mags locked inside a box, just as specified. But you get stopped for a traffic infraction, cop sees your rifles, sees your lockbox, and either because he doesn't believe you're headed to a range, or just doesn't like you that day and will simply state he didn't believe you, the cop will have the authority to arrest you for the misdemeanor.
Sure, you will have to affirmatively defend that you obtained the mags prior to 12/8/2022, and prove you were headed to the range that day, and let's say you are able to do both. But, you still got cuffed, spent several hours in a holding cell, had to hire/pay a lawyer. Missed whatever work and such for court/lawyer meetings.
But yay, the system worked, you were found Not Guilty after spending thousands of dollars to make sure you didn't get a year in jail while actually following the new law, because "how was the cop to know? ...doing their job."
That's what I'm coming around to. I was all Blue Lives Matter for a while but cops aren't your friend, they're an accessory of the State first and foremost, and I mean that in a local sense. You can't expect them to uphold the constitution when their pension depends on them doing whatever your local state tells them to do.Understand they aren’t friendlies. This includes the “good” ones that cannot be differentiated from the others.
Yea, because the Oregon Supreme court has ruled in the past that laws similar to Measure 114 are unconstitutional (per the state constitution). They don't want to open that can of worms and change precedent.Oregon Measure 114 remains temporarily blocked by Harney County judge; state Supreme Court won’t intervene
At 4:52 p.m, state Supreme Court Presiding Justice Martha L. Walters issued a two-paragraph ruling, denying the state attorney general’s petition to intervene to block the county judge’s temporary restraining order.www.oregonlive.com
Blocked til 12/13. Defendants have to show cause...
Just an fyi, there's a transaction number on the bottom of the receipt, it will read the same on all of them.I just got back from Sportsman's Warehouse and bought some Pmags. The checkout lady said, "Would you like some extra receipts?" I'm like sure! she hit the button a bunch of times and I got four receipts.
Bummer....That part got ripped offJust an fyi, there's a transaction number on the bottom of the receipt, it will read the same on all of them.
People need to stop supporting the OFF. They're a bunch of amateurs and their recklessness is going to sink any pro-2A case outcome for Oregon.Info from today and link to Harney County Courthouse so you can watch the hearing on the 13th at 9am.
Whiplash – Oregon Firearms Federation
www.oregonfirearms.org
I didn't know all that....I'm a life member of GOA which is onboard with the State TSO. Also OFF is in support of it. The NRA went to the Fed route only in this thing which did not pan out. Eventually will end up in the Feds court I bet. Lawyers are a shitty breed. Unfortunately, Its their world.People need to stop supporting the OFF. They're a bunch of amateurs and their recklessness is going to sink any pro-2A case outcome for Oregon.
While everyone deserves their day in court, the fact that OFF hired a lawyer that defends child sex abusers is beyond idiotic. The optics of such a lawyer is just BAD BAD BAD for any case that touches guns.
If 10 rounds aren't enough for an officer, it definitely isn't enough for a regular citizen. They shouldn't get preferential treatment off-duty.HA HA!
Oregon police worry gun permit requirement, magazine limits may include officers
Police don't know if they will need a permit to buy service weapons under Oregon's gun control law or whether the magazine limit will bar them from carrying off duty.www.foxnews.com
I wonder when ODF&W is going to figure out that people coming out of state to hunt will be in violation. They won't have a state permit to possess a firearm.
They were too busy of having to go to work that day.........Haven't seen anything in the news about protests in Oregon due to this new law.
What will happen if the injunction stays in place? What powers do the Democrats have to circumvent the judge and get their way?Spent most of the day listening to this hearing yesterday. Two main parts of the testimony was when were multi shot guns developed, were they available to the public and were they common in use. Second part of the testimony was availability of 10 round magazines and ease of altering them. There was discussion about how much mechanical skill/knowledge a person would need to have to drill out a rivet in a mag to increase capacity. Also what problems there would be with mags if they had non removeable base plates and they could not be cleaned properly, i.e. related to extended base pads that increase capacity.
One state attorney tried to tell the judge that the clause in the law restricting magazines that could be modified 'probably' wouldn't be enforced unless it was actually modified. Judge was not buying that argument at all. State also tried to say that even if many semiauto handguns couldn't be used in Oregon because no 10 round magazines were available for them, people could still own revolvers.
From my perspective the judge will rule against the mag ban but we will have to wait to see.
What will happen if the injunction stays in place? What powers do the Democrats have to circumvent the judge and get their way?
Even less friendly territory.I would imagine that the state would appeal the decision to a higher court. Probably end up in front of the 9th court.
It's up to you.Does this injunction do anything for FFL transfers? Does this mean the permit to purchase is on hold as well? WHEN CAN I BUY MY NEW DAMN HUNTING RIFLE!!!
Yeah, a bunch of "us" were trying to get in under the wire, but that didn't work out too well, LOL. My desired rifle showed up at my FFL 12/2, and that is when my background check was submitted. Queue was about 30,000 or so. But CCW carriers get prioritized and bumped to the front of the queue if they submit, so my number went to 32k, then 34k, and just yesterday my FFL informed me that I'm sitting at 37k right now.The permit to purchase is on hold currently but you’re looking at a 40,000 backlog on a background check. OSP can only do about 1200 per day and the number in queue goes up every day.
Good news for you is even though the CCW holders went to a number better than yours, currently the suspended processing them that way and are processing them in the order received regardless. My CCW guys are now creeping toward the front of the line at about 100 per week instead of 1000 per day.Yeah, a bunch of "us" were trying to get in under the wire, but that didn't work out too well, LOL. My desired rifle showed up at my FFL 12/2, and that is when my background check was submitted. Queue was about 30,000 or so. But CCW carriers get prioritized and bumped to the front of the queue if they submit, so my number went to 32k, then 34k, and just yesterday my FFL informed me that I'm sitting at 37k right now.
I asked about this with my current purchase and my FFL said if that's something I wanted to do, he wouldn't do it. I said no, it's fine, I'm just curious because "read it on the internet." While technically true, he said his insurance wouldn't allow it.What about the 3 day rule? I thought if your background check hadn’t been processed in 3 days you could pick up the firearm.
Time to look for a new LGS........ Ask this question when you walk in the door.I asked about this with my current purchase and my FFL said if that's something I wanted to do, he wouldn't do it. I said no, it's fine, I'm just curious because "read it on the internet." While technically true, he said his insurance wouldn't allow it.
I think it’s called the Charleston loophole and measure 114 seeks to do away with that.I asked about this with my current purchase and my FFL said if that's something I wanted to do, he wouldn't do it. I said no, it's fine, I'm just curious because "read it on the internet." While technically true, he said his insurance wouldn't allow it.
The law, if it goes into affect, eliminates that. I don’t want to deal with the government prosecuting me for violation of 114. Right or wrong I still have to pony up to fight it. Cool that you got your gun faster but I’m assuming you won’t be chipping in for my legal defense.What about the 3 day rule? I thought if your background check hadn’t been processed in 3 days you could pick up the firearm.
Only in Oregon hahahaWonder if "Mia" has ever shouldered that pistol? As an FFL and lgbqtix trainer I'm sure it wouldn't do that. Probably more germain to it than OR M114...
Maybe it can use its influence to stop the blatant discriminashun....
Oregon is now a gun free state.Can an Oregon resident buy a long gun in Washington?
Can an Oregon resident buy a long gun in Washington
Can an Oregon resident buy a long gun in Washington?
?If I can have a rifle shipped to an FFL in Washington then screw Oregon. Could be months and months before anyone can buy something in Oregon.
Do you have a CHL, most are being instacheck as of today. Buddy just bought a gun and walked out in 15 minutes.If I can have a rifle shipped to an FFL in Washington then screw Oregon. Could be months and months before anyone can buy something in Oregon.
I have a Chl and purchased mine 3 weeks ago. I was 8k in line and have only gone up to 6k in line in 3 weeks.Do you have a CHL, most are being instacheck as of today. Buddy just bought a gun and walked out in 15 minutes.