OT Favorite stocks? (Ie Market stocks not rifle)

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#1
Looking at playing a few bucks on the market, found VICEX from a friend, alcohol tobacco and firearms....LOL (alcohol and tobacco and porn actually)....

Looking for some good semi-risky stocks to gamble on...I'm not going to be day trading, maybe week-trading...
 
#2
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If you have to ask then don't do it. Fastest way to lose money. If you're serious about trading PM me and I'll give you some good books to study before you 'bet' your money away.

You've just come into a good job with more money, you're on an emotional high... Be careful.
 
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http://tmx.quotemedia.com/quote.php?qm_symbol=cnr&locale=EN

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/story/2011/04/25/gates-cn-railway-shareholder.html

http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/CompanyFocus/BuffettOnRightTrackBuyingRailStocks.aspx

Canadian National [CNI 77.02 -0.22 (-0.28%) ] looks even better on paper to Hatch.

“It’s one of the best run rails in the world,” he says, citing an operating margin of 63.6 percent and 13-percent revenue growth in 2010.

Hatch also likes CSX [CSX 77.40 0.34 (+0.44%) ], which serves many big cities, has kept reining in cost. “Its rate of improvement is second to none,” says Hatch. “They under promise and over deliver.”

CSX will generate 10-percent revenue growth annually for the next few years, adds Hatfield.

Above from: http://www.cnbc.com/id/41831750/Railroad_Stocks_Power_On_Amid_Oil_Spike

Investing requires brain-work and legwork.
 
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http://www.investopedia.com/

Do what Event said. You can go to the link I supplied and sign up. Use the simulator to learn the market and the million other things that go along with stocks. You get $100,000 dollars of play money to start. A lot of learning tools are supplied and it's free. Much better to gamble with fake money than your money while you learn the ropes.
 
#5
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I have been a member of motley fool for about 7 years and they have pretty good advice and stock recs. I purchased early on netflix, apple, ipgp photonics to name a few. A lot of their stocks are very good purchases. But I strongly agree with above. Once you get a good rec don't be hasty. There are a lot of tools on msn finance and yahoo finance to find the publicly known financial health of the company. I started reading rule #1 by Phil town. The book shows you how to evaluate the numbers...it was a good start for me.
 
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I'm on Motley fool as well./

UNP is looking good, buffet was on the money there - although it went down it's a STABLE place to put money as rail is cheaper to ship on and with higher gas prices rail is cheaper.

The other one is a financial software company that is hitting hard now but appears on the downswing.

FYI this is just a small portion of my pension I was able to close out, the rest is going in a Roth IRA - I was able to close it with no penalties because it was cancelled (after 13 years) - that was 2 years ago and it was sitting doing nothing so by getting laid off I was able to get it out so I can re-invest it.

Most of it's going to a Roth...
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Richard II</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have been a member of motley fool for about 7 years and they have pretty good advice and stock recs. I purchased early on netflix, apple, ipgp photonics to name a few. A lot of their stocks are very good purchases. But I strongly agree with above. Once you get a good rec don't be hasty. There are a lot of tools on msn finance and yahoo finance to find the publicly known financial health of the company. I started reading rule #1 by Phil town. The book shows you how to evaluate the numbers...it was a good start for me. </div></div>

Just ordered the book -

So far what I'm seeing on the market and in my research (I'm an IT guy so I can warn you of IT stocks NOT to buy)...so far I'm on the money.

Ever watch American Chopper? The company FLOW? Worst stock choice ever at $3 a share....or is it??
That new 5 axis water jet is just coming out to new businesses...

But I also look for stuff like 3m that has moderate growth - the govt buys a LOT of paper products etc...(and govt is growing).

But I don't know how to predict by the numbers so that's why I ordred the book.

I like to be smart before I spend money, which is why I HAVE money (in savings at .2% interest though)...

Good call, lots of research to do before I drop a dime on teh market.
 
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Seriously, listen to Event. Unless you are actively managing your stocks, and know what you are doing, you'll drop the money mighty quick. Instead, why not look at index funds, of higher risk nature, to buy and hold? I'd open a Vanguard account, and buy 4 or 5 ETF's or no load mutual funds, and watch my money grow. Simplicity is ideal.
 
#11
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hamvx
hasgx
These 2 have given me this rate of return since Feb.:

My Personal Rate of Return
Year to Date +9.44%


This had done well over the years
hainx

when BAC gets their shit together, load up on it.

I have heard many analyst say the market is going to drop to 11500.

Wait for a drop then jump in.

Rule #1 of investing...Never lose money.


Of course you can always short them. You can make money when they drop. I like to do it both ways.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: The Mechanic</div><div class="ubbcode-body">best right now is
GOLD
</div></div>
Agree, but must add Silver. In hand, not stock, or certificates.
 
#13
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Another good tool is insider trading.
http://www.insider-monitor.com/
When a CEO makes a big purchase it means one of two things.
1)They know that the company is going to do really well and the stock is really cheap. No brainer purchase here.
2)The company is not doing well and the CEO makes the purchase to show others confidence in the company so that others will purchase. this requires evaluating the finances of the company.
3) it is hard to know what is truly happening 1) or 2).
Stocks are the best way to go if you know what you are doing, you don't mind taking the occasional loss, if you have money to lose, and you enjoy constantly tracking companies. ETFs and mutual funds are harder for me to evaluate. I am pretty sure USAGX has the best 10 year return...question is will it continue.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: paw print</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: The Mechanic</div><div class="ubbcode-body">best right now is
GOLD
</div></div>
Agree, but must add Silver. In hand, not stock, or certificates. </div></div>

Buying gold means you think the economy is going to tank worse.

Historically the price of gold DROPS when teh market picks up as people STORE their money in gold.

Buying gold right now would be a very sad thing.


I've reviewed about 200 stocks this weekend and narrowed it down to 4 with expected growth and a good P/E, and an extremely good paying dividend over 7%.

SSo for long term that's what I'm running with, for short term fun I'm going with VICEX - alcohol tobacco and porn LOL


As for silver I bought when it was .92 per 1964 coin, now selling at 2.4 per coin I believe, either way if I sell now my $1000 investment becomes $2500 cash in hand. If I buy now and the market gets better silver drops and I lose money.

On the other hand silver in hand is still a nice thing to have.

A really decent stock is silver MINES and gold MINES however....They are digging like crazy right now trying to find gold to sell you! LOL
 
#15
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Historically speaking, when the market drops the price of gold go up. TRUE. However; there is a "market force" you have failed to take into consideration. When the gov prints money, thus deflating the value of that money, in our case the dollar, the price of gold against the currency goes up. If for example the gov. prints enough money to cause a 10% lose of value of our money, and the maket goes up 5%, you have lost 5% if you are in the market (on average). When the Fed prints money to buy stock, in order to keep the price up, they deflat the actual value. Gold and silver are a means of protecting your wealth. So far as your claim that buying gold right now is a bad investment, there is no need to argue about it, we can take this back up in a couple of months-then the history will tell us who was on the right track.
 
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You are correct but when the economy has 14 trillion, and they print say 1 trillion more, to balance out they also destroy money and withdraw it to the fed.

Thus increasing the price of hte dollar -

But that has yet to happen so you might win this argument.

HOWEVER, if gold drops back to $700 (conservatively speaking) in 4 years after you paid $1500 then you lost half of your money in one fell swoop.

Gold is just for storing money, not much of an investment unless you had it and sell now.

PM me in a couple months, if I'm wrong I'd love to see it, seriously!!
smile.gif
 
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We are now paying 40% of the govt take in intrest, much of it to china, we get nothing for it. As our debt continues to go up, our securities will need to pay out a higher intrest, as their value (based on dollars) continues to decrease, it is a thermal runaway reaction, the more we barrow the more it costs to barrow, so the more we must barrow. It can only work for so long, then the dollars value, against gold or any other strong currency will be tiny. I hope I am wrong, in fact I hope my investment in gold and silver causes me to take a loss, the country will be better off, but with the price of oil continuing to rise, and the inflation on almost everything else taking place (I just saw where ammo is going up by at least 11%) my advice is to buy gold and silver. The price of the two will fluctuate somewhat on a day to day basis, but on a month to month basis I believe you'll see a steady climb, this will at the least reflect the cost of inflation.
 
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Paw you do have a point, and IF by chance the government bankrupted, every dollar we all had COULD conceivably be replaced with something say, 1/5th the value of it ..

So lets say I have 25k in savings, I would have 5k in savings.

Yet hte price of gold and silver would st ay the same - although they may adjust that accordingly too so your 10k in gold lets say, would be worth 2k or 3k.

It's not a bad thing to invest in it, I am not selling my silver right now because of that. I keep it in a vault with 1-2k of cash just in case of an earthquake or natural disaster...
(That's recommended)
 
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If in your example, the price stayed the same against the "New" dollar, then it would have had an increase of 500% in value.
 
#22
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Paw - my book came today, Rule #1, reading through it.

It has ALREADY pointed me to some ideas in my area and my passion and those stocks are a REALLY good deal right now...and those companies have a GREAT moat
smile.gif


GOod book, I'll be re-reading it a few times...
 
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I'm interested in what you have to say, what do you think looks good and why. I like to look at the cost of gold for the last year vs the comp index (NYSE), if you're on to a good thing, please feel free to share it!
 
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Once you learn how to calculate the sticker price of a company you can see how alot of stock purchases now, even though they might look cheap, may not be such a good buy. Easy to get caught up in tulip mania.
 
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Oh boy, what a load of simplistic baloney. Insiders buy and sell for a zillion reasons, just like anyone else. There are at least two organizations who routinely monitor and look for trades based upon inside information. Not just by CEOs, but their friends and relatives. The enforcement of these rules is at an all time high. And the pickings are pretty easy since all these activities are captured electronically.

Hint to OP, unless you have $$ to burn, don't under any circumstances believe that a group of people who are shooting enthusiasts have any special knowledge of what YOU should do with YOUR money. Get yourself informed.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Richard II</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Another good tool is insider trading.
http://www.insider-monitor.com/
When a CEO makes a big purchase it means one of two things.
1)They know that the company is going to do really well and the stock is really cheap. No brainer purchase here.
2)The company is not doing well and the CEO makes the purchase to show others confidence in the company so that others will purchase. this requires evaluating the finances of the company.
3) it is hard to know what is truly happening 1) or 2).
Stocks are the best way to go if you know what you are doing, you don't mind taking the occasional loss, if you have money to lose, and you enjoy constantly tracking companies. ETFs and mutual funds are harder for me to evaluate. I am pretty sure USAGX has the best 10 year return...question is will it continue. </div></div>
 
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Just checked the price of gold and silver (NYSE), and compared it to one year ago, gold is up about 25% ($300/oz), while silver during the same year is almost double from a year ago (current$35/oz), I've also check the composite index for the NYSE for the same period---not so good. What has changed? Obama is still pull the dems give-a-away programs, fuel has almost doubled, unemployment is up, but we are still giving money we barrow from china to Pakistan! We'll see, but I've been putting my money where my mouth is, I've been a gold and silver buyer for the last 6 years, do not see any reason to stop, in fact, it's been pretty good to me and my wife so far.
 
#27
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jAXDIALATION</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Oh boy, what a load of simplistic baloney. Insiders buy and sell for a zillion reasons, just like anyone else. There are at least two organizations who routinely monitor and look for trades based upon inside information. Not just by CEOs, but their friends and relatives. The enforcement of these rules is at an all time high. And the pickings are pretty easy since all these activities are captured electronically.

Hint to OP, unless you have $$ to burn, don't under any circumstances believe that a group of people who are shooting enthusiasts have any special knowledge of what YOU should do with YOUR money. Get yourself informed.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Richard II</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Another good tool is insider trading.
http://www.insider-monitor.com/
When a CEO makes a big purchase it means one of two things.
1)They know that the company is going to do really well and the stock is really cheap. No brainer purchase here.
2)The company is not doing well and the CEO makes the purchase to show others confidence in the company so that others will purchase. this requires evaluating the finances of the company.
3) it is hard to know what is truly happening 1) or 2).
Stocks are the best way to go if you know what you are doing, you don't mind taking the occasional loss, if you have money to lose, and you enjoy constantly tracking companies. ETFs and mutual funds are harder for me to evaluate. I am pretty sure USAGX has the best 10 year return...question is will it continue. </div></div> </div></div>



Actually if you read the book "Rule #1" you would know that insider trading is only ONE of 8 aspects used in the "Buy below sticker price".

I read the book twice already, in the past 3 days.

I ran numbers on about 12 stocks I had picked.

I put 5g on a set of stocks this morning that shows LONG TERM prospects based on past equity growth.

I made $15 today.

Multiply $15 by 200 market days, subtract an avrage for slow days....and I should be getting 22% back on my stock in the next year.

I'm also a techie and know of 3 companies that have SUPERB growth, just that their sticker price is too high right now so I am watching them.


Rule #1 is a MUST HAVE, must have book for anyone putting money into ANYTHING, not just the stock market.

Lucky for me I've always been a ruler #1 investor in guns, cars, and motorcycles.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Richard II</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Are you going to get his second book? </div></div>

Yep!

I would love to hear his aspect on todays market, Rule #1 was made before the crash so its' REALLY hard to find a 50% sticker price right now on SOME stocks that meet the 4 M's and the numbers jive.

But it can be done.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ArcticLight</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You are correct but when the economy has 14 trillion, and they print say 1 trillion more, to balance out they also destroy money and withdraw it to the fed.

Thus increasing the price of hte dollar -

But that has yet to happen so you might win this argument.

HOWEVER, if gold drops back to $700 (conservatively speaking) in 4 years after you paid $1500 then you lost half of your money in one fell swoop.

Gold is just for storing money, not much of an investment unless you had it and sell now.

PM me in a couple months, if I'm wrong I'd love to see it, seriously!!
smile.gif
</div></div>
Well, it has been a couple of months +-!
 
#32
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It's been several months, BTW the market dropped over 500 points today-how have your stocks faired as compared to gold?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: paw print</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's been several months, BTW the market dropped over 500 points today-how have your stocks faired as compared to gold? </div></div>

I did good actually, it wiped out my gains from yesterday. I lost more the past two weeks than I did today.
My stock is already rising back in after hours. If my company buys stock back, I'll be sitting pretty.
Disasters like today say "BUY BUY BUY!"

Gold is good but when it drops it's so fast you can't get out of it often times.
 
#34
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My best advice is to keep it simple. Risky stocks are not the way to go if you want my opinion. Your first sentence says you are looking for a gamble?? Really?? I have no use for gambling in my portfolio.

A few simple rules to look for if you are a beginner can help you pick good stocks that will make you lots of money over time.

Here are the parameters I would stay in if I were you to buy stocks:
1. Dividend of 4.0% or higher

2. PE of less than 15 with forward looking earnings being positive, not negative.

3. BETA as close to 1 as possible.

4. Dividend Reinvestment. Every penny in dividend goes back into your portfolio(or buys more shares).

5. At least a 10 year track record of increasing dividends every year.

Lots of utilites fit these parameters. And overall these stocks have gained 8-10% per year consistently for many years.

Stay on a steady course. The turtle beats the hare in the stock market all the time. Dividends are where it is at. Especially high diivdends with long term performance. It only takes a second for a high flier to become the dog of the day!!

I have been buying high dividend stocks since 1976. And I promise you I have outperformed the market. And on my own. Following all these simple rules. And a few more.

When the dot.com stocks came along I was really tempted to buy. And some big money was made by some, But big money was also lost by some. Overall in the end run I was way better off by staying out of the dot.com bubble. Tom.
 
#35
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ArcticLight</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: paw print</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's been several months, BTW the market dropped over 500 points today-how have your stocks faired as compared to gold? </div></div>

I did good actually, it wiped out my gains from yesterday. I lost more the past two weeks than I did today.
My stock is already rising back in after hours. If my company buys stock back, I'll be sitting pretty.
Disasters like today say "BUY BUY BUY!"

Gold is good but when it drops it's so fast you can't get out of it often times. </div></div>
What did you buy, and how is it working out, I'm just staying with Gold.
 
#36
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Glad I stayed with Gold! Which one of those stocks are you suggesting to buy now? I noticed the market dropped another 600 points, is the smart money buying again, or are they waiting for the next 2000 point drop?
 
#37
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Problem is there is widespread panic in the markets. Panic trumps fundamentals. If anybody knows which way the markets are going to move and when I sure would like to know. There is a very uncomfortable feeling in my stomach that the tumble will be very long....
 
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