Other hobby R/C planes

[50calibercruiser]

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I painted the whole underside neon orange to aid in keeping track but in the fading light last night nothing would have saved me but unplugging the battery and putting it away. It ended up almost 3/4 of a mile from where I started.

Greg, This isn't S.O.P. Trust me, I love big open spaces. I never liked joining organizations like that, I always feel like I'm dealing with the fun police. If I want to put rockets on my plane or drop more than flour bombs on something, damn it, I should feel free. Keeping innocents safety in mind, of course. And these activities only occur in highly classified locations, not the soccer field downtown. I would hate to be the guy that ruins it for everyone else.

 

[m151m]

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nice

 

[Kiba]

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Another RC guy here, but helis... I've had about 8 of them since getting hooked about 2 years ago. It all started with a little POS infrared heli from a toy store someone gave me which turned into something like a crack habit. Next thing I have a "real" 450 as my learning tool and from there it was several upgrades / upsizes. Currently I'm down to two... a Mikado Logo 600SE and a Compass 6HV. Rotor diameter on the Mikado is right about 60", 6HV is about 54".

A bit of a steep learning curve, but tons of fun...

Seriously considering a turbine powered heli for the next build. I know they're heavier and won't do the 3D thing very well but the sounds are amazing and I can at least fly smooth aerobatics. At the very least I might buy a used one, fly it until I get bored with it, and then sell it. The potential of crashing a turbine powered heli from either "dumb thumbs" or mechanical failure is something that still scares me (and my wallet) so I might not ever build one.

I also have a 36" 3D foamy airplane with full flaperons/spoilerons and 45 degree elevator & rudder throws I like to beat the snot out of but I don't find it quite as much fun as the helis.

I'd love to build an overkill-powered EDF but that would require a much longer drive to a real field to fly it because of runway issues. I have access to a 35 acre alfalfa field with decent dirt access roads less than 1/2 mile from the house which is where I typically fly. The road is more than enough to take off and land the helis and the alfalfa is great for belly landing the 3D foamy. Unfortunately the road isn't good enough to take off and land a fast EDF.

 

[gathert]

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Here is my latest. 30% Staudacher with smoke installed. Has a G62 for power and a Xoar 22/10 prop installed that is white with red tips to match the plane after the picture was taken.

Any of you guys every been to Joe Nall? I live 45 minutes away from the property and have been going for years. Got to finally fly this past year with Frank Noll a few times. Man that was fun.

Also, seeing turbine jets do 3D will blow your mind, and its the norm at Joe Nall. Look into going if you have never been, its the worlds biggest R/C event every year. I have a good thousand pictures from the past two years and the amount of skill there is insane.

 

[ArcticLight]

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Daaaaa mmmmmmmmm


Wha'ts the stall speed on that beast? Bet that would not fly in my lil place I fly (park)..

We have a few r/c clubs but they are both in excess of 20 miles away....


Whew that's big! Love it!

 

[gathert]

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Actually, compared to some planes thats rather small. Flight speed is darn fast too. With the 62cc engine I'm guess it does a good 80 mph but its not built for speed. I had to dead stick it one time and it glided a quarter mile before I could land it.

My foamies are a blast to fly, I like doing knife edge spins and tail touches down on the deck along with rolling circles and all that 3D stuff.

 

[Greg Langelius *]

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My other hobby is planes, but not R/C.

I follow an elder path; stick and tissue rubber powered free flight models.

Completely scratch built from free downloaded internet plans. Costs are miniscule compared to other kinds of model flight, and I can fly them on the school sports fields up the street. No noise, no mess, no radio interference, no worried neighbors.

I tried R/C and liked it, back in the mid 1960's (Galloping Ghost Proportional Superhet Control back then). Then I went away to war and when I got back I found out my Elder Brothers had flown my plane OOS and lost it.

Disappointed, I decided to never again put that kind of money into anything that was so ephemeral.

Further demonstrating my indestructible grasp on reality, I married soon after.

Forty one years next month and gaining on it...

Greg

 

[gathert]

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I've built several of the Guillows stick and tissue planes. Fun to build and fly.

 

[cmh2007]

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man ya'll quit posting these things up, i'm wanting to get into r/c sailplaning. and the wife says i already have enough hobbies

 

[ArcticLight]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gathert</div><div class="ubbcode-body">With the 62cc engine</div></div>

They have mopeds with s maller engines.

Holy CR*P!!!!!!

Awesome!!!!

 

[gathert]

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62cc is small. Check this link. 275cc from 3W. And there are even bigger ones.

3W 275cc

This video is of a Bill Hemepl 60% cub with an even bigger engine. He is an amazing pilot both R/C and full scale. The second video is of him landing a plane with one wing just so you can see his mad skills.

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[Greg Langelius *]

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Guillow's kits are good entry-level models. They assemble without significant snags, and are an excellent teaching aid for the basic skills.

They have some cons, mainly that they are heavier than they could be, and this reduces flight performance. But as a starter, they are excellent. The newer ones are laser cut, and that simplifies construction to a lew level.

My only real quibble is simply a product of my age. It simply galls me to be shuckin' out several ten-spots for kits that used to known (back in the dim recesses of a 65 Y/O's memory) as 'dime scale'.

Like shooting, it's easy to become a critic; but I don't see any benefit in that.

If you want to experience an SH-like forum atmosphere among truly interested and helpful balsa addicts, try Hip Pocket Aeronautics, which is fast beoming an outstanding gathering place for <span style="font-style: italic"><span style="font-weight: bold">all</span></span> categories of aircraft modellers; and Mike's Flaying Scale pages, which is a really well detailed site to initiate and develop the stick and tissue approach to free flight aircraft modelling. Mike's a Brit, and I had the supremely pleasant privilege of chatting him up at the Flying Aces Club Nationals in nearby Geneseo NY last Summer.

While I don't covet a .50 cal, I really dig it that we still live in a place where folks like Ronny Barrett can gratefully report that it is the private market that keeps his business afloat. My view toward Giant R/C Scale, etc., runs along similar lines.

Greg

 

[50calibercruiser]

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Here is from this weekend at lake Tenkiller, over the ski course. On the first flight the trim is way out of whack. It was everything I could do to keep it out of the water. My plan was to follow the skiers through the course. Didn't work out that way but still cool. Talk about rough landings, rocks are hard on foam but no major damage was suffered.

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[gathert]

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If you can do fiberglass, get some really light weigh cloth and put it on the bottom of the wings. Thats what I did with me Electifly L-39 and nothing can damage the foam now. Paint it if you like. It will also stiffen up the wings without adding any weight.

 

[ArcticLight]

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Those were some hard landings!

I can tell the trim is out, you did good recovering that!!!

Nice scenery!

 

[Grimm]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gathert</div><div class="ubbcode-body">62cc is small. Check this link. 275cc from 3W. And there are even bigger ones.

3W 275cc

This video is of a Bill Hemepl 60% cub with an even bigger engine. He is an amazing pilot both R/C and full scale. The second video is of him landing a plane with one wing just so you can see his mad skills.

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Bill is a fantastic pilot, just ask him! And a great guy to boot. Some of his best routines were on his Pitts. Those cubs are goddammn monsters, the prototype halfscale took up our whole hootch and looks like a real plane in flight. Little sluggish though the basic routine though they are heavy.

 

[Grimm]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Greg Langelius *</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

While I don't covet a .50 cal, I really dig it that we still live in a place where folks like Ronny Barrett can gratefully report that it is the private market that keeps his business afloat. My view toward Giant R/C Scale, etc., runs along similar lines.

Greg </div></div>
I chopped you stuff about it being easy to be a critic and it's true. I learned how to fly WHILE being critiqued by guys like Bill, oh and Bill. Much like shooting perfection is the undiscovered country.
Giant scale is a little deceptive, independents like Bill don't make a ton of money selling planes. He's still got a day job at NG. There was another guy a legend in RC and he quit his job at NG to pursue full time RC. Last time I heard he was strung out on something and barely hanging on, don't know for fact but pretty sure he was flying and RC set up across the border with drugs. Even for the Pros giant scale is a hobby not a job. But it is a fun community and MOSTLY the guys aren't about the gear. That 70 something guy with 4 1/3 scale planes remembers what it was like to put mayonnaise between slices of bread so he could afford bolonga for his kids. That's what I like about RCs and guns, the crowds are mostly the same. Mostly good people who will go the extra mile to welcome you into the game, an that one asshat. Luckly the Army paid me to mess with guns and RCs and now I'm hooked into two insane hobbies.

 

[The Mechanic]

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just found this one.
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[Xshot]

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So my little woman brings home a Thunder Tiger T2000 that she picked up at Goodwill for $35.00 - engine and muffler included. Plane is more than 10 years old, but was never assembled. No instructions and none available. I sure I can I can put it together.

I'm looking a radio sets and think I want to do the FPV thing. Just what I need... another hobby!

 

[Shredder58]

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It's a cool hobby. I've had a small toe in the game from time to time over the years. My problem is too many interests and hobbies...not enough time and money to go around...

 

[Sean the Nailer]

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Mechanic, for the win. That was excellent. Now I can definitely see some 'slower airspeed' applications.

 

[bhoges]

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So far my biggest plane is an 88in Extreme Flight Extra 300 with a 55cc engine. This hobby is worse than guns. At least guns don't crash. It gets addictive.

 

[KAZ]

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Ren said:"Oh yes.... I got out of the RC heli game while I still had some money in the bank"

Brings back old RC flying $$$$ memories. We used to tell new victims that if they wanted out of the hobby with any money they should line up all of their brand new gear and drive back and forth over it in the parking lot. Regards

 

[CommAV8OR]

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RC aircraft is what caused me to begin flying "full scale" (term for the hobbyists) aircraft!
There's still a special spot in me for it. I've still got my 1/4 cap232, superhotz, an eagle 2, a nexus(heli) and a venture(heli)

 

[gathert]

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Just picked up this guy. It hits 100 mph.

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[Maggot]

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Having one of those would land me in jail.

 

[997/2man]

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Jail, civil court, anger management, state hospital, etc. Run away.

 

[*greenhorn*]

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my uncles have 70-80 rc planes they got kits they sell on ebay if theirs anything you looking for send me a pm, they have motors and, servos, all i think their ebay id is wrightbrother27. ill think ill have to dubble that, one a truck driver the other a electritan. their not a ebay store. they specilize in bommers, WWII era planes. i know they just got a corsair 6 Chanel kit in a cupple days ago they. sent me a helo a few days ago a blade cp, im charging it now, never flew a helo before. has any one ever flown one of those before??

 

[gathert]

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Yeah I fly helps. If that is your first one you are probably going to break it. Go with a coaxial heli first to learn the basics, which is one that has two rotors up top. It won't get away from you and seriously hurt something. Something more like the Blade cx2 is what you want plus its cheaper to fix.

 

[Saito]

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Mall kiosk coaxial is how I got started in this madness about 3 months ago. This is what I have now and I'm logging quite a few hours flying the simulator. This Blade 120SR is pretty impressive but I eventually want to step up to a collective pitch TREX. In the meantime I'm going to get a Parkzone P-51 or P-47 when I leave work next week. Getting a sim program will save you lots of $.

 

[*greenhorn*]

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cool ill look in to that i just went out side and tryed to hover it, lol every thing cool didnt kill any one but i see that it is not easy

 

[Dollman]

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I've had an E-Flite Blade SR 120 for about a year now and it's finally getting fairly easy to fly.

Went through alot of rotor head links, tail rotors, front and rear carbon fiber body mounts (changing out the broken body mount rods is a bitch), and one canopy. Have a big backyard but not big enough as I've crashed it into the fence and into the neighbors pool several times and landed it up on the roof of all the houses around me in uncontrolled crashes usally caused from wind gusts. Seems to be O.K. in winds less than a couple of MPH. The SR 120 is definately not for flying indoors. Those carbon fiber rotor blades tear up lamp shades, furnature and other such things the old woman can bitch about.

 

[Saito]

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Yeah it says indoor/outdoor but I think they mean in a gymnasium or something. Even flying in the garage is difficult. I've got this little thing down with no major crashes yet but I did pick up extra parts and 4 batteries. Now I've got my eye on a little turbofan MiG-15 that costs around 90$. According to the guy in the hobby store, it's a "handful". That's exactly what I'm looking for!

 

[Dollman]

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I probably crashed it alot because I didn't get an aftermarket transmitter and program it with expo's nor did I buy flight simulator software to practice first. In this case hind sight is 20/20. I just bought it and started flying it. Actually crashing it alot and learning from the crashes what not to do to fly it. Very frustrating the first few months but I wasn't going to let this little R/C helicpoter win.

 

[The Mechanic]

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So what is the simulator program you guys keep talking about? Is it part of the radio, computer program, or combination of the two?

 

[gathert]

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Look up real flight for your simulator needs. Not super cheap but its the best out there. Comes with a transmitter that hooks up to the computer only, and you can actually use your regular transmitter through the one it comes with.

Saito, go with the P-51 if you don't have a ton of room to fly. I have had several and absolutely love it, even after I upgraded it. The P-47 is faster because it has a bigger motor but it just as good of a plane. It is also ready or retracts and flaps right from the box.

 

[Kiba]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: The Mechanic</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So what is the simulator program you guys keep talking about? Is it part of the radio, computer program, or combination of the two? </div></div>

Phoenix and Real Flight are the two at the top of the heap.

Both will do the job at teaching you the control movements and how to fly but when you get to trying to learn more advanced moves Real Flight has the advantage for flight accuracy for the airplanes and Phoenix is more accurate on the helis. For that reason I use Phoenix for helis and RealFlight for planes.

Phoenix also gets lifetime free upgrades & updates while every time a new major version of RealFlight comes out you have to purchase an upgrade.

You can't really go wrong with either simulator but if your primary training focus is going to be either planes or helis I'd buy the sim that does the best job for your aircraft of choice.

 

[Saito]

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Real Flight 5.5 is what I have(see the pic in my post above) and it get the job done. I have yet to fly helos on it though. My gf got me these camera glasses so I made a short vid of a P-51 flight on my TV. I like the fact that I can use my DX6i controller/transmitter with the program as that is what I use when I fly my Blade 120SR and I plan to "bind" it to a P-51 when I get home. Now if I can fly the real thing like this, I'll be happy....
http://youtu.be/xMMVyE3zTJQ

 

[bhoges]

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http://youtu.be/j4hssvRpTYc

Heres my plane. Probably first few flights so nothing too crazy as far as stunts.

 

[*greenhorn*]

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OK got bored tried to hover the helo again today = bad idea. broke the body off of it and banged up leading edge of the rotor blades and the tail blades lol lol. my wife laughed her ass off. going to call around see if i can get tail i think i can cut rotor blades out of balsa dont think i need the body on it to fly.

 

[gathert]

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Please don't try to make your own blades. Thats about the worst idea possible for a heli. Buy some cheap ones from hobbypartz or nitro planes or somewhere like that. Just warning you, when things go wrong on those helps, they go bad fast and throw blades in bad crashes. They don't flutter when they let go sometimes, they become spinning blades at high speed.

 

[*greenhorn*]

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the regular blades are out of stock i wonder how much stronget the carbon will be??

 

[gathert]

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They are much quieter and stiffer but I doubt you will be able to tell the difference in therms of strength since you are just starting out. They will hold together better in a minor scrape but will still break if crashed hard. You can look all around the internet for new parts, I know someone has them in stock.

Ta Da: http://www.redrockethobbies.com/E-Flite-Flat-Bottom-Main-Blade-p/eflh1147a.htm?Click=30985

 

[Saito]

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Well,

I picked up a Parkzone P-47! It now has flaps, retractable landing gear and a Power-25 motor. I've got about 3 hrs on it now and I'm glad I can buy wings for it cuz I've tore 3 up already

If you're getting a "foamy" P-47-get some carbon fiber rod and re-enforce the wing with a single chunk that extends between the landing gear mounts on each wing. Doesn't add much weight and that section is super weak anyway due to the wheel wells. I've been using an 11x7 prop with the power-25(stock is a 9.75x7 I think) and I now have a fistful of 11x8s to try out once I'm home again(and the damn wind lets up). I also got a couple of bigger 3300mah batteries for the bigger motor, along with a 40A ESC. This is a fantastic sport and I'm glad I started with electric, easy to fix styrofoam planes. They're super easy to work on and loads of fun! A friend and I were out flying on the frozen lake and actually had a midair collision!! He was landing so his Corsair didn't fare as well as my P-47. He's been flying for a while and never seen it happen(cuz the possibility of it happening is so slim). Get into it and join the AMA(insurance in case you crash your plane into something/someone).

 

[Grimm]

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Not familiar with that particular model (I mean I've seen it but never flown one), does it have decent power to weight, and what part of the wings are you tearing up? As it is right now how high could you do a vertical climb before it stalls?

 

[gathert]

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Those parkzone P-47s sure do haul when you open them up. Flaps and retracts add a lot to the model. My friend dumped his T-Rex 700 this past Sunday while doing piro flips and lost it in the sun. Its not if you crash, but when.

 

[Saito]

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Grimm-Well my power to weight now that I've got the power-25 motor installed is great. The motor is rated for a 5lb plane and the P-47(with the bigger battery) comes in just over 2 lbs(according to the digital bathroom scale). I need to get more airtime with the new motor cuz I've spent alot of time fixing my plane lately. I just go fly when I feel like it, wind(or plane) be damned. I only flew for a couple minutes last time before we had our little mid-air run in. So, I really can't answer your question about the climb rate... I know I can have it up and almost out of site in NO TIME and it flat out hauls ass now!! Spectrum has a little deal that you can plug into your iPhone or iPod touch that will give you telemetry, so I've gotta get one to see how fast this thing moves now....Just like anything, you better have some cash when you get serious about it! fml

It breaks on the leading edge of the wing, in front of the wheel wells if you set it down hard and the stryrofoam isn't very thick there, cuz it can't be. There's only one fiberglass strut running through the center of the wing and the landing gear have alot of leverage due to where they mount in front of the strut...I can post pics once I'm back at home in a few days. I also made pop can skid plate for the cowl that's saved me a few times. The damn thing noses over so easily if you hit the smallest rock in the road(runway).


I saw a Trex 600(or 650?) this last weekend and now I think I needz a collective pitch monster lawn mower...damnit.

 

[Grimm]

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glass the leading edge probably about to mid wing. single layer unless you think you have the weight for two( and you think it needs it). check the cg and add ballast if you need to (shouldnt)

that is IF its worth it, if parts are cheaper and faster I suppose don't bother. But I like to glass most foam wings.

 

[gathert]

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The T-Rex 600 is big, but the 700 is huge. I had a PZ P-51 Mustang that I put a power 10 and a 4S lipo in and it did 100. Now I've got a pylon racer that does 140 mph but the battery only lasts two minutes

You can also use gorilla glue to fix the foam. Its how I install stuff like landing gear in the PZ airplanes because it fills all the little gaps and holes. Have to wipe it off as it expands though.

 

[Saito]

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I guess I'm not familiar with "glass"? I'm an R/C noob, remember? LOL I assume you're referring to a fiberglass epoxy/resin or something? With the new 3300mah batteries, it was way nose heavy so I added some foam spacers(being careful not to block airflow through the cowl) that made it just slightly nose heavy. I don't want to reach a point where I have to add weight to the tail. Parts are relatively cheap(30 bucks for a wing) and I'm not worried about tearing shit up anymore.

My friend gave me a "stik" plane of some kind(looks like a red baron theme) and it has a new .40 glow motor on it but I decided last night I'm gonna put an electric .60 eq motor on it and roll that way. My buddy has like 10 planes and just put a badass YS engine in his Embry Riddle plane. He's also got a 15lb, 5hp plane with a wingspan the length of a pool table. I blame him for all of this madness.