Does anyone on here have any experience running this laser and how far out will that illuminator reliably light up steel? LA-5 B
Night Vision PEQ-15 LA-5B
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From what I've seen they have a little more power than a luna. If that helps at all.
Not trying to be a smart ass, but probably way further than most anyone can realistically shoot at night. I am not a long range night shooter. There might be some out there that could do it, but they would be a rare individual I would think. However, there are members on here that likely are some of the best out there that can shed much more insight than I could ever possibly offer.
The LA 5 B at 100mW has 10mW more than the older 90 mW Luna's at 810nm.
Here is a pick of a Luna ELIR 3 90mW at 810nm. The beam is on a known 1,000 yard target which is just at the edge of those woods. I would say the Luna still has plenty of power and focus ability to stretch on out another 500 to 1,000 yards. Maybe this will give you some idea of what the LA 5 is capable of.
The LA 5 B at 100mW has 10mW more than the older 90 mW Luna's at 810nm.
Here is a pick of a Luna ELIR 3 90mW at 810nm. The beam is on a known 1,000 yard target which is just at the edge of those woods. I would say the Luna still has plenty of power and focus ability to stretch on out another 500 to 1,000 yards. Maybe this will give you some idea of what the LA 5 is capable of.
Actually the illuminator on a la5b is 80mw. But like I said the two I've seen side by side the la5 had a bit of an edge.
@newguy2k3v2 My bad, my brain hasn't been functioning correct at all today since I heard the bad news that Flir is dropping the the Thermosight Pro Line and tossing us Civi's out into the dumpster. If this keeps up, might have to seek professional help.
A 640 Boson Thermosight appears to be gone with the wind.
A 640 Boson Thermosight appears to be gone with the wind.
That'd be the IZLID... They're fun as shit and shine 47km. A little more powerful and you could shine the fucking space station. Low on a 200P is 100mW and that's still too high for all but open range, out the open shit. There's video of a Spectre using one and it just lights up the whole goddamn grid square like daylight.
Actually the standard PEQ2 and 15's are the most useful IMO.
If I were you, I'd take that fucker and sell it, get another PEQ15 and also a nice new KAC rifle to put it on. The high power models are pretty rare.
I saw testing of something awfully similar to that years ago, but visible instead of IR. We could see the from an aircraft from probably 5-8 miles out. With it being a visible laser, it seemed like a good way to get every wanna-be AA and SAM gunner within a couple dozen miles to shoot at you, tho.
@Desert Rat
Yes. The LA5 B Illuminator will tighten up to a point and focus on out also . The LA5 B and Luna ELIR-3 both have pretty close to the same focusing ability to a pinpoint then open on out to 105 mRad (approx 6 Degrees) . They both have very nice Illuminators.
Here is the exact LA5 B Specifications on the Illuminator.
Beam: 1-105 mRad Divergence IR Illuminator = 0.0572958 Degrees to 6.01606 Degrees
Yes. The LA5 B Illuminator will tighten up to a point and focus on out also . The LA5 B and Luna ELIR-3 both have pretty close to the same focusing ability to a pinpoint then open on out to 105 mRad (approx 6 Degrees) . They both have very nice Illuminators.
Here is the exact LA5 B Specifications on the Illuminator.
Beam: 1-105 mRad Divergence IR Illuminator = 0.0572958 Degrees to 6.01606 Degrees
Yeah man, that rings a bell too... In that case weren't they using a Hellfighter? I forget. I have one, but I've never fired it up. Yet. 5000lumen spotlight. I know they come more powerful now. I know what you're talking about though, it looked like a UFO was on station and they were about to beam somebody up.
There's a night one in color too IIRC. Have you seen the color IR? Holy shit it's bad ass. You literally cannot tell the difference between day and night except the sky looks "funny" at night compared to day. Not like the COTI add on for PVS14, this was the size of a shoebox about two or three years ago... REALLY wanna see this in near future, total game changer and if they were to incorporate thermal highlighting, it'd just be complete, next step would be bionic eyes or some shit. Man I want that setup, even if it is the size of a shoebox I'd just use it for night driving!
@Desert Rat Here is a photo taken with an handheld Iphone up to a PVS14 with a 5X magnifier on it. My focus ain't the best.
Those beams are exactly 1,000 yards from where the photo was taken from. Top beam is a Luna ELIR-3 70mW at 850nm (current version). The bottom beam is the ELIR-3 90mW at 810nm (previous version)
Both are wide open on the Rheostat. The pic does not do either beam justice. Both are awesome at that range and past. All that crap to the left of the beam is BUGS reflecting in the beam. Summertime in Mississippi. Keep in mind there are also tons of bugs out in the path of my photo you just don't realize it because I was to the side of these beams being pointed by another guy and all the bugs in front of me are not being reflected via IR light.
Those beams are exactly 1,000 yards from where the photo was taken from. Top beam is a Luna ELIR-3 70mW at 850nm (current version). The bottom beam is the ELIR-3 90mW at 810nm (previous version)
Both are wide open on the Rheostat. The pic does not do either beam justice. Both are awesome at that range and past. All that crap to the left of the beam is BUGS reflecting in the beam. Summertime in Mississippi. Keep in mind there are also tons of bugs out in the path of my photo you just don't realize it because I was to the side of these beams being pointed by another guy and all the bugs in front of me are not being reflected via IR light.
Nah, it was a visible green laser integrated into an existing system. It got ripped back off pretty fast when the crews saw how easy it made it to see exactly where they were. Nobody in the crews or maintenance teams were sad to see it go, either.
Both will focus down to a lightsaber. I don't know offhand which will go wider, the peq obviously will with the diffuser. The Luna unquestionably has a cleaner more consistent beam than the peq.
I was not aware that the ELIR-3 laser came in different wavelengths/power levels. Admittedly, I've never owned or used on as I have read several reports of people having trouble with durability and shutting off under recoil. Do you have any comments on that? My Perst-3 definitely has a wicked illuminator on it, not in love w/ the zeroing mechanism, though.
I have never had any issues with the Luna ELIR-3 shutting off under recoil. But I run on 556. I also run rechargable RCR 123 batteries which are a tad longer. I also put the Luna Surefire adapters on them with Surefire Switch's so when I get through with "tuning" a Luna it is good to go in that department. I do stretch out the Surefire spring some such that it is making strong contact with the RCR 123 battery.
Now durability. I have not had any issues with breaking them, but don't bang the sh^t out of them either. They are a Thermoplastic housing that is fairly durable, but not as strong as a all aluminum Dbal. Hell, the plastic PEQ15's break pretty often and them things are expensive.
I did have one issue with the metal housing where the male portion of the metal battery holder got a little loose in the Thermoplastic housing (molded in) so I quickly solved that by drilling, taping and installing 3 screws into the back end. That is another standard "Tuning" procedure I do on the Luna's. As you can see I hang a lot more stuff off the back end of the Luna than just the regular tail switch that comes with it. That tail switch is only so so in my book. The Luna setup in the pictures below have been rock solid for me.
Now durability. I have not had any issues with breaking them, but don't bang the sh^t out of them either. They are a Thermoplastic housing that is fairly durable, but not as strong as a all aluminum Dbal. Hell, the plastic PEQ15's break pretty often and them things are expensive.
I did have one issue with the metal housing where the male portion of the metal battery holder got a little loose in the Thermoplastic housing (molded in) so I quickly solved that by drilling, taping and installing 3 screws into the back end. That is another standard "Tuning" procedure I do on the Luna's. As you can see I hang a lot more stuff off the back end of the Luna than just the regular tail switch that comes with it. That tail switch is only so so in my book. The Luna setup in the pictures below have been rock solid for me.
Thanks for the reply. I saw one of these come up for sale on arfcom for $225 and almost bought but decided I was already set up just fine on illuminators. It sold FAST.
