Would it be inappropriate to start a personal progress thread here? I would like to keep track of my progress and get feedback as I go.
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You dress funny and your presentation is horrible.
Carry on!
Look on your profile, there is a blog feature there. That way you can keep track of your personal progress, and not suffer the embarrassment of it being public, and subject to ridicule, jokes, and satire. While at the same time making it available to those who really want to see it. As far as being "appropriate", this is the bolt action rifle forum, not a personal progress forum.
Have you tried golf?
Sir my post was facetious and me being a jackoff. It will be typical of what you get in addition to the good advice.
Seriously consider investing in training and a good data book. Use the bok to call your shots and record your targets. Record weather, ammo, rifle condition other pertinent info and use it to develope consistency.
There are a few things I know I need to change. Right now I'm balancing the for-end of the rifle on a pack and pouch I filled with a towel. I picked up a rear bag yesterday that I started using today. This isn't a real stable platform and I find that I'm constantly muscling my rifle on to the target. The rest of my bipod will be here early next week so I'm hoping it will make a big difference.
I also find that my trigger is heavier than I would like. I find that my crosshairs shift when I'm pulling on the trigger. This is one of the recalled triggers so I plan on changing it out for a Timney trigger. I may try my hand at adjusting this one until I have the money.
Anyone who has put their hands on a AAC-SD rifle knows the stock is a huge piece of junk. It flexes like crazy and makes contact with the barrel in multiple places. I would really like to pick something else up down the road. My heart is set on a 1.5 AICS chassis but with 6 young shooters around the house a PSS take off or something similar is more likely to happen.
I want to make sure that I'm not blaming my poor shooting on equipment but I can't help but think these things are making a difference. I plan to go back out and shoot again once I have my bipod.
Way too many shooters see buying/upgrading equipment as the way to improving. -I disagree with that plan.the most important thing in the precision marksmanship equation that really matters; your own skills.
If you really want to track your progress, I'd suggest changing your stock first. When dealing with a hogue stock, you will not be able to see if it was you or the rifle. That being said, some of the previous groups appear to be from trigger control and not necessarily the stock.
I agree with coldbore miracle, this forum isn't specific for tracking your results for accolades. Get some range time, upgrade the base equipment and see if your results improve. Keeping a long running thread may not be the best way. Perhaps you could revisit this post once you have made some minor upgrades and increased your level of marksmanship.
Good luck and continue to keep shooting.
If you are serious about a PSS stock send me a PM. I'm not urgently wanting to change up my stock on my 700p, but I would consider it to help someone just starting out.
Well, on average I actually did worse today than I did the other day.
This time around I averaged 1.404".
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I'm having a hard time finding any accuracy information on this Freedom Munitions 178gr A-Max Reman ammo. I shoot with a board member who is shooting an almost identical rifle with the exception of my brake and he was seeing similar results to what I am see here. Today he brought out some hand loads that he's putting together and they seem to be pretty impressive. I can't help but think I have reached the limits of what this ammo can do. I think the next step is going to be a box of match ammunition.
I was honestly expecting to see some gains with the HS precision stock. I guess the floating job I did factory stock did its job. Though this stock is far more comfortable and I don't have to work about it flexing. After shooting some match ammo I may try to bed the recoil lug and first inch of the barrel.
I want to believe that I'm better than what I am seeing here. I have gotten to the point where my cross hairs don't wander on the target. When the trigger breaks my cross hairs are where I want them on the target (I did pull on shot). I dry fire hundreds of times a week. Each time practicing hold, breathing etc . We shall see.
I'd take 3/4"!. So where do you go from there? Rebarrel and true the action?
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If you do this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, and this, you will fire a good shot. Training yourself IMO is doing the right things enough times that you do almost all of them naturally, allowing you to concentrate on the sights and the trigger. Your body position on the rifle becomes second nature. You just do it. Don't despair, I am a slow learner, but it took me two years and about 6,000 rounds and a lot of dry firing before I could confidently say "my body truly knows what to do when I lay down on the rifle". If something isn't right, I feel it and fix it. You will find that even things like your height above the ground will matter. It takes time. Be persistent, enthusiastic but patient.
For me, rule #1 is being comfortable on the rifle. I read in one of your earlier posts something about you muscling the rifle. You absolutely positively cannot do this. If you are seeking repeatable and high level accuracy, do not adapt yourself to the rifle, you adapt the rifle to you. You can do this and spend a lot, or a little. You do not have to spend a lot, but IMO you have to do it somehow. If you are a new rifle shooter you truly don't even know yet what is right for you.
In order to achieve a natural point of aim, you must be comfortable on the rifle. It must fit you; any aspect where the rifle does not fit you will result in your trying to muscle the rifle to make it fit, and it is impossible to muscle a rifle consistently.
1. Length of pull. Add or remove length from the butt to achieve optimum LOP. As you experiment with this, it doesn't have to be pretty. Aftermarket stocks can be had with adjustable cheekpieces, butt spaces, etc, or you can buy add-on butt plate spaces, adjustable butt plates (Tubb), etc. Timney makes a trigger which can be adjusted for finger position.
2. Eye relief and cheek position. If you are teaching yourself, as you gain experience with shooting your body position will evolve. Make sure your eye is properly positioned in the eye box, naturally. Your head should just drop onto the stock, no tension in your neck. If you need to buy a cheapo cheekpiece raiser pad thing, get one. The factory stock of your rifle has no cheek riser, so you need one.
3. I wouldn't spend any more money on expensive gadgets until you can lay down on the rifle and be truly comfortable. For example, I bought an Atlas bipod and I am going to sell it, I shoot much better off a Harris. How does your body feel after dry firing sessions? How long are these sessions?
FWIW I had a 700P years ago and I never had any luck with it and Hornady 178's. Try something loaded with Sierra 168's or 175's. IMO they are more jump-tolerant owing to the design of the bullet's ogive (leading edge).
Good luck!
Edit: I just saw this: "I was rushed and hungry, but enough with the excuses." When you rush, or shoot after you are tired, you are learning and/or reinforcing bad habits. Don't. Also, don't spend any time with self-criticism. If you are laying there thinking "I have to do this well, dammit!" you will not shoot well. Think about the fundamentals. Gently and patiently check you position; check for tension in your body that would indicate a strained muscled position. Relax and have fun. Look forward to your sessions. It's not a job; don't let it become one.
I'm in the same boat as you.. Trying to learn more about this sport/hobby... It looks like you have improved quite a bit from what I see.. Keep up the good work...
I'm in the same boat as you.. Trying to learn more about this sport/hobby... It looks like you have improved quite a bit from what I see.. Keep up the good work...
I learned a lot from the Rifles Only DVD's. Jacob walks you through making a consistent shot from the prone position in the first DVD.