Point of diminishing returns for a 2-12 ish scope

[pangris]

Greetings all. Happy dance, I think I have my sons AR-10's figured out - they are kicking out brass at 3 o'clock and shooting straight.

With that said, on the optics front we have a 3 bears issue - one is wearing a 1-6 Razor, the other a 4-16 ATACR, and they seem to agree too little, too much respectively.

I believe "just right" is the Trijicon AccuPoint® 2.5-12.5x42 Riflescope

https://www.trijicon.com/products/details/tr26-c-200104

Maybe I'm a bad father, but I'm an MOA guy and so we're sticking with MOA for the purposes of this. I'm too dumb to divide by 10.

So with that said - am I missing anything that would be a better value for the ~ $1000 range for a 2-12 (ish) scope?

This is for a 16" 308, so as a practical matter we're a 600-800 yard gun due to home range and ballistic reality limitations.

Requirements - illumination, holdovers built into reticle, parallax adjustment, $1000 ish ceiling, real warranty, hold up to AR-10, and I feel like the Trijicon is already on the porky and long side at about 14" and 22.4 oz.

Am I missing any better options?

 

[W54/XM-388]

Have you thought about a 1-10 or 1-8 LPVO?
You might need to up your budget a bit but there are some great options depending on if you want FFP on SFP (if you are one of those MOA types, you might also be one of those SFP types).

 

[Hecouldgoalltheway]

I agree on the lvpo option. I started shooting lvpos on my ar rifles maybe a year or two ago, and I shoot steel and hunt with them, and I've never felt like a 1-10 wasn't enough

 

[roostercogburn98]

I snagged a 2-10 NF for just a couple hundred more than your budget.

 

[Fret]

https://mavenbuilt.com/collections/riflescopes/products/rs1-2-2-5-15x44-ffp

Emerge 2-12×44 FFP MOA

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[pangris]

I'd prefer FFP but want to stay lighter than the Trijicon - The Maven is interesting but unproven relative to where I want to be in both performance and warranty, heavier, and I like the lowest end mag being lower.

I'd love to get to the 1-10 razor, but do want to stay in budget-ish and have as big an objective as reasonable. Razor 1-10 = $2K used. VCOG 1-8 would be great but similarly $$$. This is for the children. Daddy has his.

 

[Ape_Factory]

Athlon Helios BTR Gen2 2-12x42, comes with either a MIL or MOA reticle. It's a great scope regardless of price.

Helos BTR GEN2 2-12x42 FFP IR MIL | DMR Scope

A wide range field of view with ample magnification. A DMR scope ideally suited for riflemen preferring a MIL based reticle option.

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[hlee]

If you don’t need 1x, you can get more optic for the money by staying with a MPVO.

 

[koshkin]

I'd probably forgo the side focus and pick up Leupold Mark 4HD 2.5-10x42. That's a good mag range for this gun. Another good FFP option is Trijicon Credo 2-10x36. Both of those are within your budget.

 

[pangris]

Athlon Helios BTR Gen2 2-12x42, comes with either a MIL or MOA reticle. It's a great scope regardless of price.

Helos BTR GEN2 2-12x42 FFP IR MIL | DMR Scope

A wide range field of view with ample magnification. A DMR scope ideally suited for riflemen preferring a MIL based reticle option.

athlonoptics.com

Sincerely appreciate the input, can not ChiCom.

 

[pangris]

If you don’t need 1x, you can get more optic for the money by staying with a MPVO.

Agree. If they decide they really want 1X, they can always mount an RMR/RMRcc.

 

[pangris]

I'd probably forgo the side focus and pick up Leupold Mark 4HD 2.5-10x42. That's a good mag range for this gun. Another good FFP option is Trijicon Credo 2-10x36. Both of those are within your budget.

Props for two suggestions that make me think.

Side focus vs FFP... appears the trade off is same/same as far as weight. We're mainly hunting south Texas where if you're within a couple hundred yards, SFP/FFP doesn't matter and if you see it across a field, you hopefully have a second, but, I will sleep on those.

Trij vs Trij, I do prefer the 15 year no batteries of the Accupoint vs the Credo.

Leupold pissed me off over a f&(k!ng rangefinder - top of the line broke at 26 months, 2 months out of warranty, and they offered me the same discount I could have gotten on Amazon on a new one. Considering the number of gold rings in the safe I thought that was poor form but not necessarily to the level if its the best option I would not consider them. If anything, make them prove they can hold up to the AR-10...

 

[JackOfAllTrades]

I really enjoy trijicon 2-10 or the 2.5-12 for hunting, they just always work and give good lowlight performance.

 

[tacoman69]

Am I missing any better options?

no the trijicon credo and tenmiles are perfect for if looking for an under 1000$ sfp option. maaaybe give their 2-10x36 a look. But trijicon along with lots of great features has much better reliability than the other brands mentioned like leupold athlon arken etc

 

[Tikkaguy]

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I’m contemplating one of these for a longe range 5.56 rig. Not a lot of info on them as far as reviews go tho. Most don’t complain

 

[VegasAg]

I have that Toric and love it.

 

[Pbjunkiee]

Steiner 2-12 MOA

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[TonyAngel]

I'm a big LPVO fan. I've either owned or, at least, spent some time behind all of the popular ones. Knowing what I now know, after a long an expensive search for the perfect LPVO for me; I'll say that if you don't need a 1x, don't go with an LPVO.

Considering your budget, I'd go with either the 2-10 Trijicon or the 2.5-10 Leupold. Either will out perform an LPVO costing twice as much or more at everything but having a 1x.

I chose to go with the 2.5-10 Leupold Mark4. The lack of parallax hasn't been an issue to distances appropriate for that magnification. I've had mine out to 800 and it performed well.